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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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1 hour ago, mattwill said:

None of what you have said above acknowledges the risk of going wit Tanner as the QB2. Howie chose to mitigate that risk. His risk mitigation did absolutely no harm to Tanner. He is in EXACTLY the same spot today … QB2 on the Eagles roster … as he would have been if your risky course of action had been taken.

Howie’s choice fits squarely in the category of "no harm, no foul.”

With the above said, given your clearly articulated assessment of the Pickett decision, is there any reason why you don’t cancel your car insurance using that same logic?

We forced the lesser QB as the guy we had to turn to. How are you still calling that good risk management? It created much higher risk situation. Wasn’t just here to deal with…actually traded and made it happen. Forced us into a higher risk worse situation by trading for Pickett. Proven all the way out by shipping him right out now for Tanner. Admittance of the mistake. Can’t really be argued otherwise now.

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1 hour ago, mattwill said:

None of what you have said above acknowledges the risk of going wit Tanner as the QB2. Howie chose to mitigate that risk. His risk mitigation did absolutely no harm to Tanner. He is in EXACTLY the same spot today … QB2 on the Eagles roster … as he would have been if your risky course of action had been taken.

Howie’s choice fits squarely in the category of "no harm, no foul.”

With the above said, given your clearly articulated assessment of the Pickett decision, is there any reason why you don’t cancel your car insurance using that same logic?

It’s against the law. So canceling my insurance would equate to trading for Pickett

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

It’s against the law. So canceling my insurance would equate to trading for Pickett

Puts me in a riskier situation. But hey…maybe I don’t get caught…if ever run into a need for the insurance …and I get around yesterday and today without penalty. Doesn’t equate to meaning it won’t ever happen tomorrow or ever though.

MW…just wasn’t a good comparison. Pickett experience wasn’t anything proving so much better than Tanner. In fact…we were the ones knew the best about Tanner. If anybody understood…should have been us. In fact…tons of our fanbase did exactly understand this fact all along.

MW…think I’d at least it was an open competition situation between Tanner and Pickett? Be a better comparison and point for you. Still not great….but much better.

13 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

A top O line will give you a nice ROI on RB's

What is ROI?

14 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

A top O line will give you a nice ROI on RB's

I really love taking full advantage of prioritizing and investing the highest in such massive Oline run blockers. Having that stud Oline pancake run block result in a first down is nice. But providing a RB that turns that into a 70 yard TD makes all the difference. Feels like a waste to so deliberately set all that up without attempting to finish how it will benefit.

That’s what you guys were missing so much with me about Sanders. He was so far and away more capable of taking advantage. Not about he was so unbelievably incredible. About the huge gap in belief in Gainwell. You guys just were thinking way too high of Gainwell because he was Siri’s boy being forced in. So much so that he should be the starter of the RB committee in 2023. So once you realize the truth about Gainwell if you apply that knowledge going back to all our discussions? You’ll realize your way overboard belief in Gainwell was driving your thinking king about my so lofty thoughts on Sanders. Gainwell might not even make the Steelers team. Without benefit of injury…his ceiling is likely third string RB for them. Not even believing that myself. But he has value as trusted and safe RB all around.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s what you guys were missing so much with me about Sanders. He was so far and away more capable of taking advantage. Not about he was so unbelievably incredible. About the huge gap in belief in Gainwell. You guys just were thinking way too high of Gainwell because he was Siri’s boy being forced in. So much so that he should be the starter of the RB committee in 2023. So once you realize the truth about Gainwell if you apply that knowledge going back to all our discussions? You’ll realize your way overboard belief in Gainwell was driving your thinking king about my so lofty thoughts on Sanders. Gainwell might not even make the Steelers team. Without benefit of injury…his ceiling is likely third string RB for them. Not even believing that myself. But he has value as trusted and safe RB all around.

So now we’ll get a dose of reality. Gainwell isn’t here now. So what happens? Does he become their starting RB? Does he not even make the team? If he becomes the starter proves me completely wrong. You guys opinions prove out accurate. But be nice if you think back on all our conversations with a fresh perspective after Gainwell proves to not be worthy of ever competition towards being any staring RB. Sanders was light years ahead of Gainwell…but Gainwell had a ceiling of third string RB. Think you understanding that changes everything. The competition level bar was just so low…more than greatness of Sanders.

Just no way to actually know for sure Shipley gets the opportunity. But I’m going all out there he is better than all those guys. Swift, Sanders, Gainwell…not Saquan. Shipley has the explosive burst. He’s good as pure rusher and receiving.

Tough..don’t want to push my belief in Shipley to extremes. Because for him to show it almost relies on injury to Saquan. Definitely don’t wish that. Saquan feasts on a heavy workload. Just what works best for him. Not the usual…but throughout history have been RBs exactly like this. Any NFL RB relies on a heavy workload each game you know has been a complete stud too. Wouldn’t happen otherwise.

CEO setting the team culture. We have come a long way since 2023. Sirianni doing Sirianni things.

7 hours ago, mattwill said:

That puts him as a top 4 WR...if he is supposed to be a #1 on 90% of 32 teams.

Let's not get carried away. Love him on our team. Not worried about his label.

The leader...this is a guy you pay $$ to.

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56 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

The leader...this is a guy you pay $$ to.

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Nice you are appreciating this kind of stuff now.

Saquan choked on the ATL game catch costing us that game. Choked in the SB. He needs to step up in the clutch key moments for sure.

35 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Nice read... 482 touches last year, over 100 more than he has ever had..and he said it doesn't even feel like it.

Plus all the blocking. Watched that Superbowl a few times last month when it was on NFL network... phenomenal blocking in that game.

You gotta love the all around RBs, do whatever it takes to win. The teammates really gravitate toward him.

The talking is powerful in this one.

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