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Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I believe he does a bit more than that concerning personnel…think he can battle for a FB on the roster to convince Rosie…if the numbers make enough sense.

Really he doesn't do much at all.

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13 hours ago, joemas6 said:

It's ironic...Ham and Cheese has Bennett starting...but complained we traded our 5th DT to get him?

4th…but of course. Guy better be ready to play. We gave up a good player…not great..but good. I’m fine with giving up something to get something…so Bennet better be something.

13 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Parsons has done great vs the Eagles?

Remember he attacked Steen his first start?

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I believe he does a bit more than that concerning personnel…think he can battle for a FB on the roster to convince Rosie…if the numbers make enough sense.

It's ironic though... you claim intangibles... speak of Parsons... yet completely whiff regarding Reddick?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Remember he attacked Steen his first start?

So you are worried about a pro bowl pass rusher bs backup OL?

Which team feels confident that their backup OL will shut down an all pro pass rusher?

13 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Hunh? You gave away 2 first rounds picks to figure things out? You don't see how dumb that is?

What would be dumb is going on and on like the cowboys. Packers don’t operate that way. They are hungry to get back to their glorious historic ways.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

4th…but of course. Guy better be ready to play. We gave up a good player…not great..but good. I’m fine with giving up something to get something…so Bennet better be something.

We gave up #5 DT in EVERY INSIDER'S depth chart...but of course you know more.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What would be dumb is going on and on like the cowboys. Packers don’t operate that way. They are hungry to get back to their glorious historic ways.

Correct... Dallas made the right move. What i have consistently said from the start. Green Bay... this move is a one way all in with their team... nothing at all about " finding out " anything.

13 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Which slot CB should be paid $25 mil per?

You talk a big game of your player knowledge...give us the top 5 slot CBs in the game....who you feel don't get $25 ... but they should?

Oh…so there has never been a quality Slot CB? I cant possibly be reading your question correctly. But the big names have played outside…where the big pay is. Slot isn’t as glorified. Some of this is just too slow evolving historically. But that’s where things are currently. All 32 teams most utilized personnel is Nickle. You’d think it would have sped things up much more than what’s occurred.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What would be dumb is going on and on like the cowboys. Packers don’t operate that way. They are hungry to get back to their glorious historic ways.

You give up $200 mil of cap space and 2 first round picks. .. which can really hurt the future of the franchise.... you do this because you believe in the direction you are going... not to " find out" and ,F@$k up your future if it doesn't work.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Oh…so there has never been a quality Slot CB? I cant possibly be reading your question correctly. But the big names have played outside…where the big pay is. Slot isn’t as glorified. Some of this is just too slow evolving historically. But that’s where things are currently. All 32 teams most utilized personnel is Nickle. You’d think it would have sped things up much more than what’s occurred.

Yes... tell me thr player... we have asked you this question multiple times... tell us the slot CB you feel should make top 10 CB money?

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Oh…so there has never been a quality Slot CB? I cant possibly be reading your question correctly. But the big names have played outside…where the big pay is. Slot isn’t as glorified. Some of this is just too slow evolving historically. But that’s where things are currently. All 32 teams most utilized personnel is Nickle. You’d think it would have sped things up much more than what’s occurred.

So this is why you frustrate us

On one hand you realize that the nickel or slot CB is a starter in today's game. Yet you don't understand that teams will pay " starters" but it depends on the player.

DeJean will get paid ... A LOT ... doesn't matter where he lines up.

Your argument. " but No Mas, he won't be a top 5 paid CB" the rest of us are asking you. " do you think he is a top 5 CB?"

That's why we ask you....which slot CB do you feel should be paid $25 -30 mil... due to being a top NFL CB?

The name of the player would prove your point and be valid argument against our point. Without you providing a name.... you have no proof teams wouldn't pay a top player his worth.

12 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Oh…so there has never been a quality Slot CB? I cant possibly be reading your question correctly. But the big names have played outside…where the big pay is. Slot isn’t as glorified. Some of this is just too slow evolving historically. But that’s where things are currently. All 32 teams most utilized personnel is Nickle. You’d think it would have sped things up much more than what’s occurred.

Cooper DeJean was #60 on the NFL top 100 list. Any other " slot" CB on the list????

Providing a name of one woyld help your case in saying they are underpaid.

Now. How many outside CBs made the list?

16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Oh…so there has never been a quality Slot CB? I cant possibly be reading your question correctly. But the big names have played outside…where the big pay is. Slot isn’t as glorified. Some of this is just too slow evolving historically. But that’s where things are currently. All 32 teams most utilized personnel is Nickle. You’d think it would have sped things up much more than what’s occurred.

Do " quality " players get top money? At which positions do only " quality" players get top pay?

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Is it 48 plus an Emergency QB now?

Yes

In May, NFL clubs approved 2023 Bylaw Proposal 1A that permits each team to dress a 49th player as its Emergency Third Quarterback. The following procedures are in place for use of an Emergency Third Quarterback in a regular or postseason game.

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-emergency-third-quarterback-rule-questions-and-answers

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So you are already worrying about week 10??? LMAO

Idk Ham's issue... he wants a back up player to be all pro. That's not how real life works.

" my fear" really you fear anything in sports? Sports are a distraction from real life. I fear friends and family members safety at times, fear for my kids future, .. fear in sports??? Really?

55 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMAO well as fans we all know on offense the slot WR isn't paid what the outside guts get paid. So obviously the slot cover isn't going to make what the outside guys make. Is this your first year watching football? The slot cover has to cover what? 2-3 passes per game? The outside guys are like 5,6,7,so you pay higher because they are the bigger threat. Rocket science?

That's not it at all... the better players get paid. He stated " quality" slot CBs... he can't list an elite CB that plays primarily in the slot.... DeJean was #60 on the players list...as a rookie. He will get paid due to his play...not where he stands on the field.

Show me another nickel CB that is in the top 100... that you think is an elite CB...deserving elite CB pay? Has nothing to do with where they stand on the field and 💯 to do with their level of play amongst other CBs in the league.

If they franchise tag DeJean....what pay scale will they use?

I think Dejean will get paid as long as he keeps playing at a high level don’t think the FO is going to care what they label his as just stud secondary player.

Also wouldn’t shock me to see Dejean as the #2 CB playing on the outside in base sets moving inside in nickel. Even talks of Dejean playing S this year

11 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I think Dejean will get paid as long as he keeps playing at a high level don’t think the FO is going to care what they label his as just stud secondary player.

Also wouldn’t shock me to see Dejean as the #2 CB playing on the outside in base sets moving inside in nickel. Even talks of Dejean playing S this year

He isn't coming off the field in sets with 3 LBs like last year. He will get paid. The evolution of the game...he is a starter...a standout... a top 60 player... that's why he will get paid.

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1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

That's not it at all... the better players get paid. He stated " quality" slot CBs... he can't list an elite CB that plays primarily in the slot.... DeJean was #60 on the players list...as a rookie. He will get paid due to his play...not where he stands on the field.

Show me another nickel CB that is in the top 100... that you think is an elite CB...deserving elite CB pay? Has nothing to do with where they stand on the field and 💯 to do with their level of play amongst other CBs in the league.

It is unless your a slot WR like JJ who can play anywhere. Look at AJ and Smitty's deal,then look at Dotson's(et al). Sure there are exceptions,but for the most part the outside guys get the bigger basket of goods. Usually they make 2x the plays a slot does,so there is no reason to overpay a slot WR

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This is why I was pounding the table for JJ(whenHowie blew that pick taking Hams boy Reagor). Such a threat anywhere,Dotson,not so much

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3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

It is unless your a slot WR like JJ who can play anywhere. Look at AJ and Smitty's deal,then look at Dotson's(et al). Sure there are exceptions,but for the most part the outside guys get the bigger basket of goods. Usually they make 2x the plays a slot does,so there is no reason to overpay a slot WR

And why normally the outside CB's make more loot than the slot. IMO DeJean is an exception and as you said he will he paid on value earned(as he should be). Just in general,but DeJean is much more

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I love this,it never gets old https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6brc6ZJ7DOk

15 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

It is unless your a slot WR like JJ who can play anywhere. Look at AJ and Smitty's deal,then look at Dotson's(et al). Sure there are exceptions,but for the most part the outside guys get the bigger basket of goods. Usually they make 2x the plays a slot does,so there is no reason to overpay a slot WR

Who is better...AJ, Smith or Dotson... that's why the pay is what it is. Nothing else. Will be the same with DeJean.

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