17 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

You gotta know where to find the meat.

Kensington

Seen a question if we drafted JJetta over Reagor would we win more. And I’d honestly have to answer no.

Mainly because if we get Jetta don’t think we draft Smith(hell might not even be in position to draft him) then have to ask the question of would we even trade for AJ which would probably be no.

46 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Mukuba and Adorre blew some plays…flat out. I don’t think Jackson is going to really get it together. Really hoping Mukuba steps things up at a pace I totally believe he can. He’ll make some mistakes…but at least counter with making some plays as well. As he starts rounding into form…geling with the entire Secondary.

Again... answer the question as to why this week vs KC receivers....while Carter is back causing problems up front..

Why will it be more of a test than last week cs the better WRs... and not having Carter?

Specific question to this particular matchup!

Explain

48 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Mukuba and Adorre blew some plays…flat out. I don’t think Jackson is going to really get it together. Really hoping Mukuba steps things up at a pace I totally believe he can. He’ll make some mistakes…but at least counter with making some plays as well. As he starts rounding into form…geling with the entire Secondary.

Because to me...i believe your statement has nothing to do with KC being more difficult than Dallas as far as a test..

Just that you want to put out that our players ...which Howie brought in... made mistakes.

It smells exactly like a nagging housewife just looking to point out anything negative.

Tanner still not throwing. Goedert missed practice.

5 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Again... answer the question as to why this week vs KC receivers....while Carter is back causing problems up front..

Why will it be more of a test than last week cs the better WRs... and not having Carter?

Specific question to this particular matchup!

Explain

When did I ever say it would be more of a test? I didn’t.

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

From last year but works the same base D 3 down linemen, 4 LBs( 2 ILB 2 Edges) 3-4 defense

Correct...last year they took out DeJean... this year...not expecting much 3 man or 5 man DL. Don't think DeJean comes off the field. There will absolutely be some snaps with this.. some.

I do believe Mahomes will take advantage of these two players. You have that plus testing just how ready we are to deal with a qualityTE. Gameplan should be more double teaming Kelce inside.

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Now imagine Dean is back... they could use a 4-3 base with him in the middle and Baun and Campbell playing Sam and Will

Actually a very interesting situation with Kelce. How ready is Jihad for this? How ready is the second level of our D to seamlessly work together with our Secondary?

57 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Mukuba and Adorre blew some plays…flat out. I don’t think Jackson is going to really get it together. Really hoping Mukuba steps things up at a pace I totally believe he can. He’ll make some mistakes…but at least counter with making some plays as well. As he starts rounding into form…geling with the entire Secondary.

Mukuba is neither a WR nor a Chief. Adoree is neither a WR nor a Chief. So let me ask you again … Who are the WRs who are going to be a big test for the Secondary? Rice is out and Worthy is either gimpy or out.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I do believe Mahomes will take advantage of these two players. You have that plus testing just how ready we are to deal with a qualityTE. Gameplan should be more double teaming Kelce inside.

Again... why specifically KC more if a test than Dallas? Not a difficult question.

You could simply answer because Mahomes is the reason and not so much his WRs.

You could say that Mahomes makes such a difference... that it doesn't matter his WRs are no where as good as Dallas and doesn't matter about Carter being back.

Or ... you could just say it's not more difficult than Dallas and I just wanted to point out our guys made mistake..bad ones that led to the 188 passing yards.

Just looking for clarity... wondering how difficult it is for yiu to admit how good Mahomes is...or just that you wanted to point out " Rosie's bad moves "

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Actually a very interesting situation with Kelce. How ready is Jihad for this? How ready is the second level of our D to seamlessly work together with our Secondary?

DeJean owned him in the SB. Baun will be there too.

4 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Mukuba is neither a WR nor a Chief. Adoree is neither a WR nor a Chief. So let me ask you again … Who are the WRs who are going to be a big test for the Secondary? Rice is out and Worthy is either gimpy or out.

You see this crap we have to go through

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Oh geez...let me go back...pretty much most of it...but ill go look

Here it is again, parsed for easier comment.

Zadarius Smith takes his (Hall’s) place as a 3/4 DE. Edge is the wrong term for a 274 pound DE.

The DEs are basically Ojomo, ZS, Robinson (when he is ready) and Young.

ZS and OO are more DE than OLB when the Eagles go light and both can probably play BG "DT”. (Although OO has played some OLB).

Ojomo, Robinson and Young also can line up in traditional DT alignments. Vic loves diversity.

Tank is the BVS replacement,

ZS is the Gabe Hall replacement.

Cue some Beat to say Tank isn’t a FB and ZS is a pass rush specialist.

57 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Shoulder

Not sure what you are saying.

11 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Mukuba is neither a WR nor a Chief. Adoree is neither a WR nor a Chief. So let me ask you again … Who are the WRs who are going to be a big test for the Secondary? Rice is out and Worthy is either gimpy or out.

Juju and Kelce gave us plenty enough issues just a few years back in the SB. Add in Hollywood. I don’t think you should be relying on Name recognition so much. AR can get a second stringer to gouge with a double move potentially.

39 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Seen a question if we drafted JJetta over Reagor would we win more. And I’d honestly have to answer no.

Mainly because if we get Jetta don’t think we draft Smith(hell might not even be in position to draft him) then have to ask the question of would we even trade for AJ which would probably be no.

Hard to know. Drafting JJ would have altered all future drafts possibly

15 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Now imagine Dean is back... they could use a 4-3 base with him in the middle and Baun and Campbell playing Sam and Will

They could or they could run a normal base 3-4 defense as well what’s your point lol…. Look I already stated I should have looked at it based on the formation we are primarily in but doesn’t change that we are still technically a 3-4 defense nothing you say changes that.

Yes we will play primarily in sub sets with Dejean on the nickel, yes we might have a varying front that looks like a 4-3… and YES we have our BASE D that is a 3-4

13 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Mukuba is neither a WR nor a Chief. Adoree is neither a WR nor a Chief. So let me ask you again … Who are the WRs who are going to be a big test for the Secondary? Rice is out and Worthy is either gimpy or out.

Mukuba and Adorree doing their duties…not giving up those big plays is pretty universal issue for us presently.

- Getting the entire Secondary geling together.

-Getting the coverage blend gel between LBs and Secondary together

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

They could or they could run a normal base 3-4 defense as well what’s your point lol…. Look I already stated I should have looked at it based on the formation we are primarily in but doesn’t change that we are still technically a 3-4 defense nothing you say changes that.

Yes we will play primarily in sub sets with Dejean on the nickel, yes we might have a varying front that looks like a 4-3… and YES we have our BASE D that is a 3-4

I believe it’s a hybrid

20 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I do believe Mahomes will take advantage of these two players. You have that plus testing just how ready we are to deal with a qualityTE. Gameplan should be more double teaming Kelce inside.

Yeah Mahomes looked great in the SB 🤣

19 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Actually a very interesting situation with Kelce. How ready is Jihad for this? How ready is the second level of our D to seamlessly work together with our Secondary?

We don't know,that's why we play the games LOL

8 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Not sure what you are saying.

He's not gimpy,it's a shoulder injury

56 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Ok...what i disagree with...

1. Everything that was said about Tank...but that's not your post that was about the D, just that this post about Tank...worse than any planet Ham take.

2. Ojomo is not a DE. He is a DT.

3. Smith as a 276 DE...is not taking the place of Hall...who you would say is an inside guy.

The only thing he got right was that Ojomo plays inside ( not at times...all the time)

A DE,OLB...or edge...they go against the offensive tackles.

Ojomo will play vs the guards and center.

Now my high school played 3-4... so I understand some terminology could be one NT and the two guys next to him on either side as a DE with the edges as OLBs.

That's not what we run here, regardless of how anyone wants to classify Nolan Smith or Hunt.

The norm is the 4-2-5.... two LBs are Baun and Campbell... the other guys are DL ...that's the reality of how they function. 4 guys on the DL...2 LBs... and they move DeJean and the SS around.

Im not going to argue technicalities etc. Bottom line that's simple...the new edge rusher is not replacing Hall...via position... regardless of he takes his roster spots.

Young and Ty Robinson are DTs...not ends. They will function as DTs in a front 4. Same as Carter, Davis and Ojomo. The new guy along with Hunt and Smith function as DEs in a front 4.

There will be times when the line will function as a 5 man line... there will be times when Smith and Hunt drop back so that Campbell and Baun can rush ... but lets not overcomplicate the simple.

Not sure what there is in 1. to disagree with. Tank is filling the roster slot vacated by BVS. If he isn’t going into that roster spot, what roster spot is he going into. The only other roster spot that opened up was Hall’s. I agree that you could just as easily say Tank is filling Hall’s roster spot, but it makes logical sense that an Offensive player fills a slot on the Offense and a Defensive player fills a slot on the Defense.

Ojomo is a 3-4 DE much more than he is a 3-4 DT. He doesn’t have enough junk in the trunk and his playing style is much closer to that of a 3-4 DE than a 3-4 DT. The terminology challenge with a Fangio front four is that he only has one DE and one DT in his front four with the two OLBs … or you could say he has no DTs and two DEs when Ojomo and Carter are on the field with the two OLBs. The only true DT he has is Davis, and the slimmed down version of Davis is looking more like a 3-4 DE than a 3-4 NT.

Fangio’s frequency of usage of five man fronts is not very frequent at all.