On 10/2/2025 at 12:13 AM, joemas6 said:

How about Fangio ... saying how he thinks the way they prep the kicking balls are the reason we are seeing these long FGs this year. Long punts too.

If there is a guy to notice an extra juiced detail that hasn’t been the norm in the NFL it would be our DC. Heck…he already has gone through this juicing the specific K Ball years back.

This made me remember how Vic is very thorough about the stats and numbers. This kind of thing I bet sticks out as huge red flag to that Cat. So much of D philosophy coaching and execution from decades ago just can’t be applied equally to today. Kickers have been really just routinely launching successful 50 plus yard field goals for years now. Huge effect on a DC philosophy and approach.

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1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If there is a guy to notice an extra juiced detail that hasn’t been the norm in the NFL it would be our DC. Heck…he already has gone through this juicing the specific K Ball years back.

This made me remember how Vic is very thorough about the stats and numbers. This kind of thing I bet sticks out as huge red flag to that Cat. So much of D philosophy coaching and execution from decades ago just can’t be applied equally to today. Kickers have been really just routinely launching successful 50 plus yard field goals for years now. Huge effect on a DC philosophy and approach.

Routinely 50.... not the same as today...so many kicks from mid field

On 10/2/2025 at 12:41 AM, mattwill said:

Preparation for the game is irrelevant. Unless it is one of the scripted plays called at the beginning of the game NO play call is made during game preparation, certainly no play call that happens in the 2nd Half. But if there is a story that says that play was called during the prep for the game, I would love to see it. Provide us with a link to that story.

But setting aside the preparation for that play, and concentrating on the actual play call itself, tell me what you believe was the sequence of events that happened from the 2:47 timeout called by the officials up to the snap of the ball to Hurts.

There was some a slow news period where Hurts brought up how he preps for each opponent and provides our coaches with his plays he believes in both our own execution and opponent susceptibility. Hurts provided O coaches with The Dagger for that game.

Then very clearly Siri barks at Moore to call The Dagger. Easily could even deduct Moore resisted with a differing idea….by the way Siri barks at him to just call it….order!

On 10/2/2025 at 12:43 AM, mattwill said:

Agreed. That is strategic direction and corporate culture, not operations.

You don’t seem to know very much about Gates or Jobs. Those guys detailed specifically every little thing going on with their companies. Known for it.

On 10/2/2025 at 12:49 AM, mattwill said:

No, "just call it” is the logical response to Moore who through headset communication with Hurts is trying to decide whether to call the play or not. He isn’t 100% sure whether to do it or not, and he runs the idea (and his uncertainty) by Sirianni. Sirianni has no uncertainty and very clearly says do.

You are terrible at picking up such very obvious details. Always trying to explain it to fit your misguided opinions on what’s going on with the O coaching. He straight calls…and demands Moore to run the Dagger.

On 10/2/2025 at 1:04 AM, mattwill said:

Historically great start. Perfect record … couldn’t be any better. Historically strong Strength of Schedule against opponents who are 9-2-1 in their games other than against the Eagles. That is a .792 win-loss percentage. No other 4-0 team in NFL history has faced a first four set of opponents with a better composite record.

It can be both …and indeed it is

On 10/2/2025 at 1:04 PM, mattwill said:

😂 😂 😂

Straight historical fact. You can’t argue against. Winning in ways that hasn’t been done…or rarely.

18 hours ago, mattwill said:

Got him a paycheck. Howie has cycled 27 players through the 17 slot Practice Squad. He knows how to work the system … and gettin players paychecks builds loyalty.

We are a win now team…so I get developmental baggage not ready to contribute is tough to carry this season. But he is practically the definition of a prospect with high ceiling potential. Obviously I’ve been high on him all along as my sleeper.

14 hours ago, joemas6 said:

The great O mind.....no common sense. Lose the game instead of kicking the FG....or maybe call a pass play???

I agree with his call 100 percent. Something I like about Siri. It’s all about confidence in your players. At some point it comes down to can you beat the other guy and get that one yard. Niners are real tough in this area.

37 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Routinely 50.... not the same as today...so many kicks from mid field

Kind of what I was trying to point out. Through all these years Vic already faced a huge change with the K game stepping up so much with routine 50 yard field goals. Now add in this huge boost and that scoring range is half the dang field now. No longer the 30.

39 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Routinely 50.... not the same as today...so many kicks from mid field

Of course he sees are stud P each game also. Guy is killing it. Every position matters….no matter how unsexy.

"It’s amazing because he does it at a high level,” practice squad corner Ambry Thomas said. "This is a base-man defense, honestly, and he’s following those No. 1 receivers and he’s wiping them out. He’s eliminating them from the game. Everyone knows that’s a tough job in this league and he’s just done it at such a high level.”

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

"It’s amazing because he does it at a high level,” practice squad corner Ambry Thomas said. "This is a base-man defense, honestly, and he’s following those No. 1 receivers and he’s wiping them out. He’s eliminating them from the game. Everyone knows that’s a tough job in this league and he’s just done it at such a high level.”

Let you hear it from one of our players there MattWill…since you don’t believe my thoughts.

11 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

There was some a slow news period where Hurts brought up how he preps for each opponent and provides our coaches with his plays he believes in both our own execution and opponent susceptibility. Hurts provided O coaches with The Dagger for that game.

All that sounds solid. That kind of preparation probably happens all the time.

With that said it is the addition of a play to the play book, but it only becomes a play call during the course of the game. It is certainly possible that Hurts made a suggestion through the headphones that it was a good time for actually running the play. If that was the case, that suggestion would have gone electronically to Moore, the person at other end of that electronic connection. The video clearly shows that Moore sought out Sirianni’s input prior to actually making the call.

Sirianni was basking in the heady glow of the beatdown, and clearly the thought of putting a boot on the Chiefs neck really resonated. Further, the huge lead made the downside risk of that play call rather miniscule. He clearly didn’t understand why Moore didn’t see it that way by default.

34 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Then very clearly Siri barks at Moore to call The Dagger. Easily could even deduct Moore resisted with a differing idea….by the way Siri barks at him to just call it….order!

What evidence is there that Moore resisted? Your imagination is running away with you. In addition what you are supposing is inconsistent with your own argument that the idea for the play came from Hurts.

As joemas would say "It’s always the agenda with you.”

Parker explained that there are two types of "teach tape” he shows his players. One is about scheme, sometimes how they play against a particular route. The other is about technique, whether it’s footwork or leverage or finishing at the football.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Parker explained that there are two types of "teach tape” he shows his players. One is about scheme, sometimes how they play against a particular route. The other is about technique, whether it’s footwork or leverage or finishing at the football.

Just an interesting tidbit our Secondary coach shared. Really think he’s a heck of a coach. Predict he’s the next one leaving for a promotion elsewhere.

36 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You don’t seem to know very much about Gates or Jobs. Those guys detailed specifically every little thing going on with their companies. Known for it.

Not humanly possible. Too many operational decisions for one person to do by their lonesome. On the other hand the strategic direction of the company was very much their baby. However, strategic direction is not operations. One is "where we are going” the other is "how to get there.”

38 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You are terrible at picking up such very obvious details. Always trying to explain it to fit your misguided opinions on what’s going on with the O coaching. He straight calls…and demands Moore to run the Dagger.

Earlier you said Hurts called the play. You can’t have it both ways. Which of your statements is correct and which is incorrect?

39 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It can be both …and indeed it is

Schizophrenia

39 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Straight historical fact. You can’t argue against. Winning in ways that hasn’t been done…or rarely.

Agreed … with Sirianni and Howie at the helm. Your two favorite folks.

37 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We are a win now team…so I get developmental baggage not ready to contribute is tough to carry this season. But he is practically the definition of a prospect with high ceiling potential. Obviously I’ve been high on him all along as my sleeper.

APR is not a win now player. At the earliest he is a win in 2026-27 player.

8 minutes ago, mattwill said:

All that sounds solid. That kind of preparation probably happens all the time.

With that said it is the addition of a play to the play book, but it only becomes a play call during the course of the game. It is certainly possible that Hurts made a suggestion through the headphones that it was a good time for actually running the play. If that was the case, that suggestion would have gone electronically to Moore, the person at other end of that electronic connection. The video clearly shows that Moore sought out Sirianni’s input prior to actually making the call.

Sirianni was basking in the heady glow of the beatdown, and clearly the thought of putting a boot on the Chiefs neck really resonated. Further, the huge lead made the downside risk of that play call rather miniscule. He clearly didn’t understand why Moore didn’t see it that way by default.

I can’t see it any other way but Siri overriding Moore to run what the HC playcall. Seems very obvious.

The part about it being a play that Hurts picked out in game prep to put on the call sheet is really the main key. Hurts I won’t try and pump up as the brainiac…but he works very hard. He really maxes out everything he brings to the table. Why I gravitated towards rooting for him so effortlessly. Also immediately when I got a real glimpse of him on the field for us…noticed how all the other players gravitated towards follow is leadership. Rare for a non first round QB …behind the established Franchise QB.