Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

That’s the case to be made for just how incredible Stechein and our players actually were. Weighed down by Siri terrible O and did all that.

But they weren’t weighed down by the offense why do you keep tying being a good play caller with being a good O they are two different things

1 minute ago, mattwill said:

I believe Moore made the adjustments

It was a meeting with Moore,Siri and the O line. Siri understood Moores O was not playing to the O lines strengths and Siri has the final say,so I will stand by my thoughts. That is when Barkley took off on his record run

34 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Yet Steichen ran Siri offense and they thrived just fine how is his Xs and Os terrible and has no clue what he is doing yet it works with a good play caller… the O didn’t just change because Steichen took play calling duties over the scheme was the same.

Again Siri horrible play caller why I don’t like him with rookie play callers Johnson/Patullo but his scheme has worked Steichen two years, Moore last year

You are speaking about how well everyone overcame Siri. A fraction of what could have been.

You can be a good O mind and a bad play caller just like you can be a bad O mind but a good play caller

36 minutes ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

i never said hurts wasnt great in that game, nor have i hated on hurts, so take that silly strawman and shove it, sparky. i simply acknowledged what we all witnessed on the field.

but how was hurts great if nick has stunted his growth as a qb so much?

Exactly what you need to understand to actually appreciate what’s been going on.

I think Doug Pederson is a gifted play caller think he is a mid at best O mind

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We wouldn’t have even been competitive without Hurts carrying us that SB to begin with. Worst take on things possible.

nobody said anything to the contrary strawman.

but who fumbled the ball?

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You are speaking about how well everyone overcame Siri. A fraction of what could have been.

Speaks about how it isn’t the offense that is holding the team back just the play caller but you can’t seem to distinguish between the two lumping them together…

Don’t have a top offense some years and a bad offense other years with the same scheme and the O is just terrible

Just now, Alpha_TATEr said:

nobody said anything to the contrary strawman.

but who fumbled the ball?

The Defense did it LOL

36 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

He was the best player.......................who made a grave error

Sure he did. I always admitted. But why? He was carrying our whole team. Where was our RB on that play to pickup the fumble or slow down their LB? Had to take RBs off the field because the top rushing team couldn’t trust our RBs. Totally ineffective.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Exactly what you need to understand to actually appreciate what’s been going on.

yeah, you're right, i understand and appreciate that nick hasn't stunted hurts development.

thank you for finally doing the same.

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I think Doug Pederson is a gifted play caller think he is a mid at best O mind

I like(ed) Doug. Loved his decision to go with the play Foles picked the Philly Special

Why were we in a situation forcing Hurts to need to make a huge play right then? Was setup for a Brotherly Shove easy conversion. But instead Seumalo false started.

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

I like(ed) Doug. Loved his decision to go with the play Foles picked the Philly Special

Huge Doug fan calling plays just wasn’t super thrilled with the actual offense especially the super heavy RPOs then didn’t do much better with the jags after he left us

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Sure he did. I always admitted. But why? He was carrying our whole team. Where was our RB on that play to pickup the fumble or slow down their LB? Had to take RBs off the field because the top rushing team couldn’t trust our RBs. Totally ineffective.

The best player on the field made a grave mistake. You don't give up a free 7 at ANY time-PERIOD

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Sure he did. I always admitted. But why?

no, you haven't admitted it, you've done nothing but make excuses.

but why? because it's called being honest.

try it someday.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Why were we in a situation forcing Hurts to need to make a huge play right then? Was setup for a Brotherly Shove easy conversion. But instead Seumalo false started.

But not just Oline penalty and RB disgusting performance set that all up. Seumalo made a mistake again…back to back…it was his man to block.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Why were we in a situation forcing Hurts to need to make a huge play right then? Was setup for a Brotherly Shove easy conversion. But instead Seumalo false started.

SO a bad play by one means others should make bad plays as well? Are you insane?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

But not just Oline penalty and RB disgusting performance set that all up. Seumalo made a mistake again…back to back…it was his man to block.

so, they made him fumble the ball?

38 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Excellent question. One worth repeating. Ham, what does Hurts need to develop in your opinion?

Think he has tons of room to grow and develop. Only his second year even performing crucial tasks of the job.

I honestly think given time Patullo will be a good OC and play caller just not sure how much time he will have.

This would be where I see Siri weakness as a play caller effecting us not being able to aid the rookie play caller since he isn’t a good play caller himself.

1 minute ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

no, you haven't admitted it, you've done nothing but make excuses.

but why? because it's called being honest.

try it someday.

He says he admitted it while posting more excuses LMAO. The comedy never ends on this board

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But not just Oline penalty and RB disgusting performance set that all up. Seumalo made a mistake again…back to back…it was his man to block.

This gives Hurts a license to drop the ball????? really????

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Think he has tons of room to grow and develop. Only his second year even performing crucial tasks of the job.

While learning completely new O last season he added calling the blocking assignments. First year reading the D and adjusting. So skies the limit. He just scratching the surface really with much of this.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Think he has tons of room to grow and develop. Only his second year even performing crucial tasks of the job.

what ?

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