1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I’ve been telling you he’s been held back by Siri. So tons of growth potential for Hurts.

SPECIFICALLY what do you want to see. Stop the generality BS

14 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

When Joe and I pointed out SPECIFICALLY what we wanted to see, you labeled us haters like a grade schooler. Now what do you want to see?

No…when you and No Mas labeled Hurts and blamed him unfairly. Never was blind to Hurts needing the development. It was all about Siri failing though.

22 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Worst offense yet we were top 10 last year running his offense just with a different play caller… hell even 2022 running Siri offense we were top 10…. I mean damn even 2023 are collapse season we had a top 10 offense.

Bad coaches don’t consistently win and all Siri has done is win with his apparently terrible O scheme that has produced top 10 offenses the last 3 seasons

Siri stunk…bad. 2-5 start. Wasn’t going to keep his job levels of bad. Then Steichen took over and we got so many wins.

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You need to keep up with what was said. Last season was the first time Hurts took on those responsibilities for our O.

So he was a rookie last year? nice to know. What a mornonic statement. learning new things does NOT make your experience go back to zero

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Siri stunk…bad. 2-5 start. Wasn’t going to keep his job levels of bad. Then Steichen took over and we got so many wins.

Again being a bad player caller doesn’t make him a bad coach or O mind…. Steichen took over guess what he was running Siri offense the scheme didn’t change

23 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Worst offense yet we were top 10 last year running his offense just with a different play caller… hell even 2022 running Siri offense we were top 10…. I mean damn even 2023 are collapse season we had a top 10 offense.

Bad coaches don’t consistently win and all Siri has done is win with his apparently terrible O scheme that has produced top 10 offenses the last 3 seasons

Siri kept things rolling after Steichen took start 10-1. But his O was pathetic still. Our players were out there straight playing street ball to accomplish anything. Pure will of winners.

You keep bringing up this 2-5 start and how Siri is a bad player caller yes I agree horrible play caller best decision Siri ever made was relinquishing the play calling to the OC. Very rare coaches have the insight to actually do that

25 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Worst offense yet we were top 10 last year running his offense just with a different play caller… hell even 2022 running Siri offense we were top 10…. I mean damn even 2023 are collapse season we had a top 10 offense.

Bad coaches don’t consistently win and all Siri has done is win with his apparently terrible O scheme that has produced top 10 offenses the last 3 seasons

Then last season…Siri brilliant O move was to limit our O to play ultra safe. His whole coaching point was holding back our O and limiting them.

17 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Taking the sack would have been better

Then we’d lose. It was completely up to Hurts to carry us to stay competitive. Heck…if Hurts got the ball back at the end he goes down and scores without a question.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Siri kept things rolling after Steichen took start 10-1. But his O was pathetic still. Our players were out there straight playing street ball to accomplish anything. Pure will of winners.

lol so 2022 was Steichen offense but 2023 wasn’t Johnson’s offense but Siri…. It’s just so comical…. Yet the offense was Siri when Steichen was calling the plays and when Johnson was calling them since they were both Siri offense and scheme.

2022 Siri offense is good because Steichen is a good play caller but Siri offense sucks but Johnson is a bad play caller

18 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

4-2 record this season SB win, two nfc championships and never missed the playoffs top 10 offense last 3 seasons…. If we want to talk track record lets list the facts then.

Not sure how we consider that failing consistently

Top ten O with as talented a cast as the league has ever seen. I understand how sure numbers look ok…top ten..but that’s underachieving massively for what we’ve had put together.

14 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Even this season with a rookie play caller and a string of injuries to our OL who can’t block in the ground game…. Our terrible offense is 14th in scoring on the year.

Patullo for all the short comings he has had has still found ways to be super successful in the RZ was perfect couple weeks ago not sure if that still the case but we are still damn good in the RZ.

Terrible failures to adjust in the second halves. Most three and outs in the league. Massively underperforming.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Then last season…Siri brilliant O move was to limit our O to play ultra safe. His whole coaching point was holding back our O and limiting them.

By listening to his players and turning to the ground game that had a historical season and could have broken the single season record if not for all our blowout wins and pulling starters…

But because Hurts wasn’t shining and was actually a big issue to start the season with all the turnovers Siri was holding us back got it

13 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Top 10 in scoring isn’t just doing ok that’s damn good…. Historical rushing season last year isn’t just ok.

Mind you we are a ball control conservative team once we have the lead we aim to drain the clock our yards and score could have been much higher over those seasons yet we opt to run out the clock

Exactly…brought in just a qualified O mind and saw more growth than all other years combined.

13 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Like win two NFC championships and a SB nope we couldn’t t do anything in the postseason we suck

2023 had zero chance to even be competitive

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Terrible failures to adjust in the second halves. Most three and outs in the league. Massively underperforming.

Absolutely terrible at adjusts I’d agree are we also going to mention all the terrible penalties that crippled us resulting in 3 and outs? I can’t tell you how many times I seen a play be success just to be called back by terrible execution from the players…. Hard to stay success when you were shooting yourself

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

2023 had zero chance to even be competitive

Completely went backwards after Steichen left under Siri

14 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Like win two NFC championships and a SB nope we couldn’t t do anything in the postseason we suck

Exactly what occurred both times we had any kind of qualified O mind at work with Such to just even semi out if the way:

16 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Like win two NFC championships and a SB nope we couldn’t t do anything in the postseason we suck

2023 I said. No reason that team couldn’t even be competitive at the end

17 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Like win two NFC championships and a SB nope we couldn’t t do anything in the postseason we suck

How much due to Siri? I’d say both SB appearances were due to Siri lesser involved.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

How much due to Siri? I’d say both SB appearances were due to Siri lesser involved.

Just as much to do with his team success as coaches like Dan Campbell and John Harbaugh

13 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So he was a rookie last year? nice to know. What a mornonic statement. learning new things does NOT make your experience go back to zero

Never said all that…what you are trying to sound like because you don’t read and comprehend. Second season calling protections with audible powers(more than the two Siri previously supplied)

14 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Again being a bad player caller doesn’t make him a bad coach or O mind…. Steichen took over guess what he was running Siri offense the scheme didn’t change

Siri bad playcaller and worst O in the league

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Just as much to do with his team success as coaches like Dan Campbell and John Harbaugh

He doesn't understand what a CEO does. Until he learns that he is posting pointless drivel

14 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

You keep bringing up this 2-5 start and how Siri is a bad player caller yes I agree horrible play caller best decision Siri ever made was relinquishing the play calling to the OC. Very rare coaches have the insight to actually do that

Self preservation