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9 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Such when? After we made our three peat run? I’m fine with sucking up a season after that.

If you lose 4-5 of your top players you're going to suck more than 1 season

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9 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Mortgaging the future to win two or three SBs is well worth it. Rather do that than come up just short each season.

So 2-3 more SB's all hinges on ONE guy???? GAWD why didn't you tell me!!!!!!(oh you did) Sarcasm at no extra charge. SO right now, we get Garrett you are promising me 2 more Lombardi's? With our first draft pick being pick #64 for 2-3 years?

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Lost in the Garrett hype BS is a guy named Trey Hendrickson who ASKED to be traded. Seems to me alot less capital required for a guy who wants out anyway?? Good player who can be had MUCH cheaper. I would give our 1 next draft for him since we would probably take an edge or CB with our first pick anyhow,so not much lost there really

5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

So your fantasy world continues. You make posts about a trade... and then you completely change the cost.. what was the point? You think Cleveland would trade Garrett without getting a 1st Round pick? Before you try to spin it.... you have Garrett on your team ... would you do it? So you completely wasted posts on here with fantasy stuff.

I answered very specifically and detailed. Three first rounders is just too steep…even for Garrett. Not saying I’d be way below that cost though while pulling the trigger on the trade.

5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Vermeil took a team that was 15 years plus in the toilet. Without much draft ammunition and no free agency.

Andy took over a team that had Troy Vincent, Bobby Taylor and Dawkins in the secondary, Trotter and Reese at LB and Hugh Douglass and Tra Thomas. Had the 2nd pick in the draft. And free agency... a team that just made the playoffs a bunch of times in the 90s and won some playoff games.

In a time where the NFC East was at a low.

No where close to what Vermeil had to overcome... not close.

Coaching during the game....not close. Vermeil all day.

AR all day…love Vermweil with what feels like a passionate connection. Vermeil is The Players Coach.

The trade I’ve been discussing has been Edge Jermaine. Rumors are pointing towards a second round pick getting the trade done. This is the trade for us!!!

5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Vermeil just a better coach. Took a loser Rams team and established the greatest show on turf in no time...took a struggling KC team and made them a winner too

Coach on the field...Vermeil all day

Vermeil relied on a top O mind to set that all up. Was an absolutely stacked team…which you give Vermeil the nod if personnel was equal….but he failed to win the championship that season even still.

5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Vermeil just a better coach. Took a loser Rams team and established the greatest show on turf in no time...took a struggling KC team and made them a winner too

Coach on the field...Vermeil all day

X and O is a huge gap towards AR. AR revolutionized the entire league with his extensive development of the West Coast O system he learned coming up.

5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Lol... how was that team before him... lol

Clueless

He went 5-11 and 4-12 to start with them

5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

So you think Vermeil would get beaten by Siri 3 times in a row and would need a slippery field and a gift 7 points to win the 4th?

Really?

Nah…Vermeil likely shreds Gannon while he’s busy picking out his new curtains in his new office at the SB site.

5 hours ago, joemas6 said:

So you think Vermeil would get beaten by Siri 3 times in a row and would need a slippery field and a gift 7 points to win the 4th?

Really?

But yeah that first Chiefs SB won over us was a pure outcoaching as NFL football gets. AR trounced!!!

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

But yeah that first Chiefs SB won over us was a pure outcoaching as NFL football gets. AR trounced!!!

With what weapons on O? Pacheco and Kelce. That was it! Kelce every time yet…open. Just the worst!

5 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

what are you talking about? how do you get so much wrong in one post?

AR & johnson did not teach anybody about the cheating. the pats got caught in '07. also, the pats won three more super bowls afterwards.

what AR actually taught us once again in that super bowl loss was, he sucks at game time management.

Let me teach you a little something here Tater. JJ told Spagnalo in the SB second half it’s like Bellicheat knows my plays. Spags beat Bellicheat everytime after…as did we. Spags was here when he learned all about their casting. Sorry you missed this huge key. This is exactly what’s played out on several SB over the years. Wow…can’t believe you didn’t realize that!

5 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

what are you talking about? how do you get so much wrong in one post?

AR & johnson did not teach anybody about the cheating. the pats got caught in '07. also, the pats won three more super bowls afterwards.

what AR actually taught us once again in that super bowl loss was, he sucks at game time management.

AR didn’t suck. Totally outmatched….which he was the first SB in ‘22 he stole from us. We had an uber talented top ranked D…AR drew up plays that weren’t even being challenged even though he only possessed one skill player of note on O(Kelce). As brilliant as it comes!!!!

No WR…nothing special at RB…AR dialed up the easiest O possible for Mahomes to run. Their receptions weren’t even being challenged. With only Kelce to really utilize. AR also broke the code to make their run game work with Pacheco…which is just another example of his pure brilliance of coaching in that game.

Tater AR coaching performance in that ‘22 SB was the greatest coaching performance of all timessssss!!

5 hours ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

what are you talking about? how do you get so much wrong in one post?

AR & johnson did not teach anybody about the cheating. the pats got caught in '07. also, the pats won three more super bowls afterwards.

what AR actually taught us once again in that super bowl loss was, he sucks at game time management.

The Chiefs completely outmanned and outgunned ran the clock out to history on the SB. What could you possibly be talking about? Greatest coached game possibly ever!!!

How do you take one weapon on O as a playmaker and beat the top D stacked with talent? Would think it just a genie wish…if AR didn’t perfect it right in front of us so shamefully.

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

It's a different planet...

This is very wildly and we’ll know information…especially if anybody here is a hard core Eagles fan. JJ straight was drip jawed that Bellicheat was stealing his plays in the second half of that SB. His LB coach Spags went on to lead the Giants D to heat those Pats two times while heavy underdogs. We came back and beat them also…

AFTER KNOWING THEY CHEAT LIKE THAT. Everybody involved with that losing Eagles team to those Pats utilized that knowledge as the clear key to beating Bellicheat!

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

It's a different planet...

Absolutely is!! Such basic and obvious knowledge all Eagles fans should possess just seems to have flown right by so many heads here. This is pure fact…JJ called out Bellicheat stealing the playcalls losing that second half of that SB. Everybody that learned from that experience took Bellicheat down afterwards. Last seeded Gmen with our LB coach at the helm of their D beat the undefeated Pats squad in the SB.

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

It's a different planet...

I’m actually surprised that you, No Mas, aren’t fully aware of exactly what I’m talking about….you used to at least be equipped with these team knowledge factoids.

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

So instead of dancing around and wasting time. 3 firsts you say no... 3 seconds won't get it done. Just give your realistic offer and stop wasting time

I’ve very directly and head on answered

3 hours ago, joemas6 said:

So instead of dancing around and wasting time. 3 firsts you say no... 3 seconds won't get it done. Just give your realistic offer and stop wasting time

I supplied my offer. Three firsts just can’t happen! But a large combination of picks is very workable. Two first round picks(which would be valued at 30-32 each with Garrett on board). Never close to 30 first round graded level draft prospects in a draft. Then I could pour on several nonfirst rounders piling on the two firsts. We racked up a bunch of compensatory picks. So trade those all in for Garrett. Not like we would feel a huge loss not surrendering our own original draft picks.

Only feature makes our first round picks even feel like first rounders is the fifth year option feature attached. Pick 30 not even comparable to top 15 overall picks. Think some, or many, get wrapped up in the label’First Round Pick.’

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