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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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6 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Regarding Hurts’ fumble last night, there are fumbles, and there are bad fumbles. Do you think his fumble last night was a bad fumble?

Fumble in the red zone is a bad fumble. Watching the play, I thought he went to the wrong side of Toth....who was pushing the block right, if he goes to Toth's left there were more yards to get... the defender (the 2nd one who was there on the right) made a very nice play on the ball. He wouldn’t have been there if Hurts went left. Also you could argue he should have had 2 hands on the ball and fell on his back or left shoulder instead of reaching his left hand out to break the fall.

It's a bad time to fumble...great play by D that Hurts could have done a couple things differently to avoid. Game is much easier from the sidelines without 11 guys looking to kill you...so only so much criticism we can give. But I dis think his error was not following the block correctly to avoid the defenders who made the play

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14 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Regarding Hurts’ fumble last night, there are fumbles, and there are bad fumbles. Do you think his fumble last night was a bad fumble?

Another thing... regardless of it being a " bad" fumble... the bigger thing, it was an excellent play call.

1 hour ago, Alpha_TATEr said:

pointing to last night's slips and falls, cold weather and false starts doesn't explain away the fact that they are ranked 23rd offensively to this point.

No but it does highlight a lot of what went wrong for us last night.

1st drive what like 17 plays and we are driving the ball should have walked away with some kind of points if not for the fumble that killed the drive.

2nd drive mailata slips resulting in a loss of yards then next play Saquon slips after catching a screen. The give up draw run to Shipley though I don’t understand and we did this numerous times put the ball in Hurts hands give one of our WRs a chance.

4th drive Mailata false starts puts us in a hole then we have a 21 yard Barkley run negated by a hold putting us even more into a hole before eventually having to punt.

End of half we just gave up which would be the areas of this game that I don’t like 23 seconds at least 2 timeouts might have had all three

Mind you we only had 5 drives the entire 1st half if you even want to count the 23 seconds at the end as a 5th drive….. 1st quarter both teams only saw the ball once before it ended.

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Bark is still a blast to watch, That spin move was awesome

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

No but it does highlight a lot of what went wrong for us last night.

i never said it didn't.

1 hour ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Bark is still a blast to watch, That spin move was awesome

There is a slow motion video...looks so smooth

2 hours ago, mattwill said:

Regarding Hurts’ fumble last night, there are fumbles, and there are bad fumbles. Do you think his fumble last night was a bad fumble?

Maybe a better question would be was it due to poor ball security or just a good play by the defender

I'm going with choice B on this one

35 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Maybe a better question would be was it due to poor ball security or just a good play by the defender

I'm going with choice B on this one

I agree the wording of the question could have been better, but as it was posed, it created a lot of dialogue in three different threads. The rather open-ended wording resulted in two different kinds of answers. Some were more holistic, focusing on the impact of the fumble, and for that matter any fumble, on the course of the game. Others looked at the question from an individual play and individual player performance perspective.

Jaire Alexanders stepping away from football, mental and physical health.

37 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Jaire Alexanders stepping away from football, mental and physical health.

Odd timing. Wish him the best.

41 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

Jaire Alexanders stepping away from football, mental and physical health.

Got to wonder if there is any compensation for the Birds if he hangs em up

4 minutes ago, Senhorcook said:

Odd timing. Wish him the best.

VERY odd timing

3 hours ago, mattwill said:

I agree the wording of the question could have been better, but as it was posed, it created a lot of dialogue in three different threads. The rather open-ended wording resulted in two different kinds of answers. Some were more holistic, focusing on the impact of the fumble, and for that matter any fumble, on the course of the game. Others looked at the question from an individual play and individual player performance perspective.

I hope you realize cerebral answers like this will get you shunned here

1 hour ago, Asg 15 said:

I hope you realize cerebral answers like this will get you shunned here

Joe and I have butted heads when I strayed into the overly cerebral. We came out of it shaking our respective heads, but with increased mutual respect. As Yul Bruner said, "It’s a puzzlement.”

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1 hour ago, Asg 15 said:

VERY odd timing

Wonder if he(Lurie) can sue his agent for "non discolsure" and how in the world did he pass his Eagles physical? Obviously it harmed the Eagles who could have possibly signed someone else before the deadline

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1 hour ago, Asg 15 said:

I hope you realize cerebral answers like this will get you shunned here

It's NP, I am here to offset any cerebral intentions 🤣

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5 hours ago, mattwill said:

I agree the wording of the question could have been better, but as it was posed, it created a lot of dialogue in three different threads. The rather open-ended wording resulted in two different kinds of answers. Some were more holistic, focusing on the impact of the fumble, and for that matter any fumble, on the course of the game. Others looked at the question from an individual play and individual player performance perspective.

JMO, defenders are taught and work on punching balls out. QB's have many more things to learn and while they may get some work in how to lock a ball in defenders are bigger and stronger in the upper body. Hurts could beat them on a leg press but I bet he can't bench or dead lift near what defenders lift. You don't see many QB's that weigh 355. Big guys beat up little guys. It happens, no reason to get into big arguments.

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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/eagles-jaire-alexander-reportedly-steps-away-from-football/ar-AA1QfzRH He didn't retire yet. But he is thinking about it. Still the eagles org has been harmed. He should have removed himself from the Eagles while he contemplates his future,not after the deal is made,or possibly the deal was not signed and why he was absent yesterday. Still there should be something done as we could have signed someone else before the deadline passed.

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My question would be did the Ravens know?? Should the Eagles get their 6 pick back?? Was the deal even signed?? Will be interesting to see how the league handles this  

42 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

My question would be did the Ravens know?? Should the Eagles get their 6 pick back?? Was the deal even signed?? Will be interesting to see how the league handles this  

He practiced....I think we eat this and move on. We retain the rights should he decide to come back. Really bigger concerns....and Philips makes up for any of it.

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8 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

He practiced....I think we eat this and move on. We retain the rights should he decide to come back. Really bigger concerns....and Philips makes up for any of it.

IDK CB2 seems like a big concern, The fact Love stunk up Lambeau and made our CB's look good means it's still a concern. Not every QB is gonna crap their pants

15 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

Maybe I missed something but where did he say it was an out route?

He referenced the play drawn up I shared. It was Dotson that ran the Out. Fl just confused and all over not following along very well.

15 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

Speaking of out routes with the Pack sitting on the out routes i have to wonder why the Eagles didn't call an out and go

Seems like everybody has a big ‘tell’ on the Comeback route some how.

13 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I mean...the players play the game. Make better decisions, throws and don't fumble and it gets much easier

Yeah they do what is supposed to be expected in a scheme.

13 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I mean...the players play the game. Make better decisions, throws and don't fumble and it gets much easier

Gets so much easier if the O isn’t weak they are operating in

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