Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

what did benching Mcnabb do for our franchise gave the team a spark that led them to an NFC championship…. Will playing McKee after another terrible half(if we have a terrible half against LA) change anything maybe not but does it hurt anything either?

Worse case we get still suck get destroyed like the Eagles in 08 did against the ravens best case we get ai or spark…. Never stated to bench Hurts permanently but can be a wake up call for the entire team

For me you are taking all the damage being done this entire time…then using that to ruin our future and franchise.

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Of course you do you have to push your biased agenda

It’s everybody…that goes to much more than just one guy messing up one time….its defining the coaching is an issue.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We need an O designed for our guys specifically to thrive in. Any O that doesn’t work with Hurts…isn’t the O we need or are looking for.

The O line isn't opening holes for the running game. That favors a pocket passer which Hurts is not really good at. He misses seeing opportunities on the field. There will always be drops,just how it is,but not seeing the throws is an issue for me

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Of course you do you have to push your biased agenda

Guys aren’t on the same page with known expectations from the coach in the ‘scheme.’

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

For me you are taking all the damage being done this entire time…then using that to ruin our future and franchise.

ruin it how?

2 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Of course you do you have to push your biased agenda

IDK how McKee could be any worse at missing open guys. Really KILLING our offense with no running game

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The O line isn't opening holes for the running game. That favors a pocket passer which Hurts is not really good at. He misses seeing opportunities on the field. There will always be drops,just how it is,but not seeing the throws is an issue for me

Players talking about identity, talking they weren’t on the same page….just messing up sloppy too much…

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Guys aren’t on the same page with known expectations from the coach in the ‘scheme.’

Players are responsible for making the plays and that's not happening. The coaches aren't on the field

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Players talking about identity, talking they weren’t on the same page….just messing up sloppy too much…

If we have no identity by week 12 we aren't going anywhere

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We need an O designed for our guys specifically to thrive in. Any O that doesn’t work with Hurts…isn’t the O we need or are looking for.

How does one design an O when the players aren't performing?

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

IDK how McKee could be any worse at missing open guys. Really KILLING our offense with no running game

Yeah I realize you only consider one step thinking approach

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Players are responsible for making the plays and that's not happening. The coaches aren't on the field

Coaches never on the field…that’s not part of their job. But they have a crucial job to perform.

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If we have no identity by week 12 we aren't going anywhere

But that’s just Hurts fault?

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

If we have no identity by week 12 we aren't going anywhere

Actually believe sadly we do have our identity…it’s just not positive.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah I realize you only consider one step thinking approach

No you do, you aren't open to anyone other than Hurts. Right now Hurts is playing like total JV, but you won't open your eyes. Nothing to be done about that. I talk about TEAM,you talk about Hurts

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

How does one design an O when the players aren't performing?

First by developing a scheme. Then doing whatever it takes to get them executing together at highest possible production.

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We need an O designed for our guys specifically to thrive in. Any O that doesn’t work with Hurts…isn’t the O we need or are looking for.

Well if Siri and Patullo are the issue they won’t be designing the O for Hurts and this O next year regardless.

Need a spark this season and if we can’t get something going on O for a 3rd straight week yea id seriously consider a shakeup and nothing is a bigger shakeup and wake up call then QB change.

And im not even blaming hurts or saying it is permanent just like 08 1 half of play and hopefully wakes the team up like in 08 with Mcnabb

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

How does one design an O when the players aren't performing?

Explain Caleb Williams going from some judging as a bust to this season leading the top seed playing well?

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But they have a crucial job to perform.

So do the highly paid players

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

No you do, you aren't open to anyone other than Hurts. Right now Hurts is playing like total JV, but you won't open your eyes. Nothing to be done about that. I talk about TEAM,you talk about Hurts

Actually feel its opposite. I talk about whole unit being on the same page together.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Explain Caleb Williams going from some judging as a bust to this season leading the top seed playing well?

Full season in the nfl with a full nfl offseason and vastly improved OL goes a long to pair with Ben Johnson

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

First by developing a scheme. Then doing whatever it takes to get them executing together at highest possible production.

So you would be open to starting McKee to see if that works? It's the only thing we haven't tried yet?

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Well if Siri and Patullo are the issue they won’t be designing the O for Hurts and this O next year regardless.

Need a spark this season and if we can’t get something going on O for a 3rd straight week yea id seriously consider a shakeup and nothing is a bigger shakeup and wake up call then QB change.

And im not even blaming hurts or saying it is permanent just like 08 1 half of play and hopefully wakes the team up like in 08 with Mcnabb

They’ve been the issue…since the very beggining. Over and over given chances others couldn’t dream they’d ever be given.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Explain Caleb Williams going from some judging as a bust to this season leading the top seed playing well?

How did Hurts do it?? Or any QB that finally gets the supporting cast they need?

1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Full season in the nfl with a full nfl offseason and vastly improved OL goes a long to pair with Ben Johnson

So you just believing his complete turnaround and the Bears leading the NFC because of personnel. I don’t see them as so clearly the most talented team.