Concerning Moore…he actually wasn’t a great playcaller himself. What he did was establish a standard and expectations. Key being equipping Hurts with audible power and solutions. Hurts audibles plays lead to such a high percentage of the key big plays made throughout last season.

49 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Was TO better than Julio Jones?

Better yes more talented no which sounds crazy to say because TO was a freak….

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Concerning Moore…he actually wasn’t a great playcaller himself. What he did was establish a standard and expectations. Key being equipping Hurts with audible power and solutions. Hurts audibles plays lead to such a high percentage of the key big plays made throughout last season.

What Moore did was was limit Hurts the passer and lead heavy into the ground game something f we can’t do this season with a banged up OL. Forcing more on QB1 and it shows he isn’t built to throw us to victory week in and week out

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Better yes more talented no which sounds crazy to say because TO was a freak….

Food for thought here. I’m not even sure what my opinion is on just athletic freak comparison between TO and Julio. I’ve typed making a case going both ways on this and just erased it. Big strong fast workout warriors.

3 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

What Moore did was was limit Hurts the passer and lead heavy into the ground game something f we can’t do this season with a banged up OL. Forcing more on QB1 and it shows he isn’t built to throw us to victory week in and week out

That wasn’t Moore. That was Siri. Moore was trying to push the development of the passing game.

4 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

What Moore did was was limit Hurts the passer and lead heavy into the ground game something f we can’t do this season with a banged up OL. Forcing more on QB1 and it shows he isn’t built to throw us to victory week in and week out

Started week one with Moore running the O all TC. Moore was developing the passing game finally for us. Siri undercut things beggining right in week two. Then Siri completely took over for reasons of self preservation(Siri was going to get axed if we lost to the Browns).

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

That wasn’t Moore. That was Siri. Moore was trying to push the development of the passing game.

It was the players that were pushing for the ground game that Moore listened to because QB 1 wasn’t getting it done

4 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Food for thought here. I’m not even sure what my opinion is on just athletic freak comparison between TO and Julio. I’ve typed making a case going both ways on this and just erased it. Big strong fast workout warriors.

I think Megatron is the most talented WR the NFL has ever seen obviously Jerry is the GOAT but never seen another WR get two CB lined up like gunners against them like Megatron not even talking about the numerous triple and quadruple coverage he would see on a bad Lions franchise

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Started week one with Moore running the O all TC. Moore was developing the passing game finally for us. Siri undercut things beggining right in week two. Then Siri completely took over for reasons of self preservation(Siri was going to get axed if we lost to the Browns).

Then things hit a low. My educated guess was Rosie finally stepped in to force Siri to back off and let Moore work. Press conferences all the week of the Pitt game had Moore front and center essentially saying he was taking back over. Our passing game ignited! Really turned out to be at the last second to get that accomplished the way things played out to end the season. Moore O in the playoffs just proved how inept Siri running the O was. Not that anybody should have needed any further proof. Posting Double Nickle with Moore able to just do his job.

11 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

What Moore did was was limit Hurts the passer and lead heavy into the ground game something f we can’t do this season with a banged up OL. Forcing more on QB1 and it shows he isn’t built to throw us to victory week in and week out

No Qb relying on Patullo as the passing game coordinator in Siri O could consistently overcome the worst O(coaching factors wise: scheme, adjustments….)

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No Qb relying on Patullo as the passing game coordinator in Siri O could consistently overcome the worst O(coaching factors wise: scheme, adjustments….)

Yup missing numerous open plays weekly just terrible play calling your excuses are hilarious

6 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

It was the players that were pushing for the ground game that Moore listened to because QB 1 wasn’t getting it done

Oline had injury issues and were specifically chosen because of their size, strength and mobility. Really it was injuries combined with the new O from Moore. Too many problems were occurring early on. Run blocking so much easier to not screw up assignments compared to pass blocking.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Then things hit a low. My educated guess was Rosie finally stepped in to force Siri to back off and let Moore work. Press conferences all the week of the Pitt game had Moore front and center essentially saying he was taking back over. Our passing game ignited! Really turned out to be at the last second to get that accomplished the way things played out to end the season. Moore O in the playoffs just proved how inept Siri running the O was. Not that anybody should have needed any further proof. Posting Double Nickle with Moore able to just do his job.

lol we are on a 9 game win streak but the Pitt game is when they tell Siri to step out of the way but he took over against the Browns to save his job that resulted in us going on a 9 game win streak after the bye your own delusions don’t add up

Siri is the only coach I know that’s terrible yet made 2 SBs and has had winning seasons every year and made the playoffs ever single season.

Terrible coaches don’t manage that not even with strong rosters not at this consistency.

9 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I think Megatron is the most talented WR the NFL has ever seen obviously Jerry is the GOAT but never seen another WR get two CB lined up like gunners against them like Megatron not even talking about the numerous triple and quadruple coverage he would see on a bad Lions franchise

For me it’s Randy Moss…I’m not even going to disagree with your choice of Megatron.

7 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Yup missing numerous open plays weekly just terrible play calling your excuses are hilarious

Pull up the quote where I even blamed playcalling

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Pull up the quote where I even blamed playcalling

In fact I even stated Moore wasn’t a great playcaller

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

For me it’s Randy Moss…I’m not even going to disagree with your choice of Megatron.

It’s a pick your poison kind of question Randy is a close #2 for me

13 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No Qb relying on Patullo as the passing game coordinator in Siri O could consistently overcome the worst O(coaching factors wise: scheme, adjustments….)

Play calling is part do the scheme the scheme is part of the play calls either way you want me to phrase it it’s the same the scheme had numerous guys open…. And when we were just missing them we would have a stupid penalty negate them

And when I state missing the plays not just on Hurts either because yes he missed throws but I won’t sit here and say he hasn’t made throws either that were just dropped.

34 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I think Megatron is the most talented WR the NFL has ever seen obviously Jerry is the GOAT but never seen another WR get two CB lined up like gunners against them like Megatron not even talking about the numerous triple and quadruple coverage he would see on a bad Lions franchise

You don't remember much of Rice in his prime do you?

33 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No Qb relying on Patullo as the passing game coordinator in Siri O could consistently overcome the worst O(coaching factors wise: scheme, adjustments….)

29 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Siri is the only coach I know that’s terrible yet made 2 SBs and has had winning seasons every year and made the playoffs ever single season.

Terrible coaches don’t manage that not even with strong rosters not at this consistency.

Not like the schedule this year is easy either.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

RT, WR and TE be great for us to nail this draft

What do we need another WR for if there are no targets for them? Malachi Fields(ND) late

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Rosie stuck us in a hard place with AJ. Really telling how when Smitty got paid…AJ had to get a raise right away. Rosie has to understand much more than we do about the fractured relationship AJ and Hurts had going on already when he did this also.

I thought Hurts "brought AJ here" and they were buddies??? That's what you always claimed before