40 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

All these lovers if a QB that can do basic QB skills at a competent level.

2 more years GB. Needs to make one other coordinator look bad. I hope we keep Steen at RG. We need a rushing game that is slightly below average again so that they have 12 or 14 games where we have to pass 30 plus times. Expose the QB more.

Unfortunately Howie is tied to Hurts with being " smartest guy in the room drafting him" as we see the reports , the organization does everything to avoid criticism of Hurts"

Maybe Ham is actually Dave Spadaro in real life...he takes the company line position for sure when it comes to the QB.

1) Running game. I think you get your wish. It was nowhere near dominant. Passable,but not dominant. Lane may or may not ever be 100% again. Fred J did a nice job,but once again not dominating. RG is still "iffy" We should draft O line, but how soon can they become dominant?(maybe never) but I trust Stoutland if you give him the talent. I personally would draft an OT and a G early. CB#2 stuck between them. TE IDK, I don't see any standouts for how we use them. Perhaps they can be taught more. 2) Howie still has a huge ego IMO. I'm not mad at the pick,I am upset Hurts quit on this team making side deals AFTER he got the big money. Now he is a loafer and he lost the respect I was building for him. Nope, as a QB you are the leader and need to give it all you have, not play with "cut outs". Very sad. The question now for me is, how bad does it need to get before Howie gets pissed? He already lost me(and the team), now Howie needs to see it. His "iconic pic with him with the Lombardi smoking a cigar told me he was satisfied with that and he is done busting. We saw how mediocre he was this year. Really a let down as a fan,but the unknowing won't see that. They still see Hurts as being a great QB because they fail to see the stat lines. He is middle of the pack because that is what he chose to be

Game time(just not for us)

18 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

No thanks on Josh Allen…glad we have Jalen Hurts!

You have got to be kidding me right. You act like Allen is a bad QB. Yet you are talking about a QB that had zero 300 yard games this year on a team that couldn't run the ball. That’s pathetic Hurts can't carry a team like Allen has shown. Allen only had 13 turnovers this year, Hurts had 10 not a big difference. Josh Allen is the better running QB. Allen reads a defense better than Hurts does. He uses the whole field. Has less talent at WR than we do by far. Do i need to go on? Am I missing something here?

9 minutes ago, DownwithDallas said:

You have got to be kidding me right. You act like Allen is a bad QB. Yet you are talking about a QB that had zero 300 yard games this year on a team that couldn't run the ball. That’s pathetic Hurts can't carry a team like Allen has shown. Allen only had 13 turnovers this year, Hurts had 10 not a big difference. Josh Allen is the better running QB. Allen reads a defense better than Hurts does. He uses the whole field. Has less talent at WR than we do by far. Do i need to go on? Am I missing something here?

You are missing the Hurts bronze statue in your yard 🤣

Wow! What an amazing interception. Maybe greatest interception I’ve ever seen.

46 minutes ago, DownwithDallas said:

You have got to be kidding me right. You act like Allen is a bad QB. Yet you are talking about a QB that had zero 300 yard games this year on a team that couldn't run the ball. That’s pathetic Hurts can't carry a team like Allen has shown. Allen only had 13 turnovers this year, Hurts had 10 not a big difference. Josh Allen is the better running QB. Allen reads a defense better than Hurts does. He uses the whole field. Has less talent at WR than we do by far. Do i need to go on? Am I missing something here?

Allen even had the number one rushing team. Has possessed a contending team so many years but can’t do it.

No matter what this game comes down to the largest pressure moments on the biggest stages imaginable. Some guys shrink then. So me guys can handle it better than others. Some step up…even thrive in such environments. It’s not about week one in the first quarter. A guy that’s incredible then…but wilts in the win or go home championship moments? Can’t do much with that guy.

Why weren’t we facing Allen in past years SB? We crushed the Chiefs.

Milton huge play setting up making all that play happen.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Milton huge play setting up making all that play happen.

Pats were just so stupid adding him….you’re right No Mas.

1 hour ago, DownwithDallas said:

You have got to be kidding me right. You act like Allen is a bad QB. Yet you are talking about a QB that had zero 300 yard games this year on a team that couldn't run the ball. That’s pathetic Hurts can't carry a team like Allen has shown. Allen only had 13 turnovers this year, Hurts had 10 not a big difference. Josh Allen is the better running QB. Allen reads a defense better than Hurts does. He uses the whole field. Has less talent at WR than we do by far. Do i need to go on? Am I missing something here?

Hurts has better teammates and targets.

8 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Pats were just so stupid adding him….you’re right No Mas.

26 million.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Hurts has better teammates and targets.

Allen had actual NFL O to work out of all along

Playcalls getting in so he could motion and read the D before the playclock is expiring 

Milton Williams sack on the QB…or Stroud got back to the line of scrimmage only on 3rd and 10.

24 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

26 million.

What’s the price to take a terrible team and launch them straight to the AFC Championship game for that piece you can’t acquire otherwise?

25 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

26 million.

Is it about completing championship roster puzzles? Or winning some mythical Cap Wars?

45 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Allen even had the number one rushing team. Has possessed a contending team so many years but can’t do it.

This doesn't mean he is a worse QB. It took Payton Manning years to win a Superbowl was he a bad QB. Aaron Rodgers has 1, Farve 1 Superbowl, Lamar Jackson 0, Marino 0 all of them better then Hurts well today's Rodgers isn't but he was.

Hurts is not a top 10 QB

7 minutes ago, DownwithDallas said:

This doesn't mean he is a worse QB. It took Payton Manning years to win a Superbowl was he a bad QB. Aaron Rodgers has 1, Farve 1 Superbowl, Lamar Jackson 0, Marino 0 all of them better then Hurts well today's Rodgers isn't but he was.

You se to be pointing out the flaws in what you see/saw in greatness at QB.

9 minutes ago, DownwithDallas said:

Hurts is not a top 10 QB

10.... lol.

Payton Manning threw more interceptions than TDs when his D totally stepped up along with his great RB to win it all finally the first time. Then was used up and old having the Broncos carry his old a22 to the second SB. At Tennessee with the best team twice- wasn’t a champion. Before his bad performances in the postseason…finally got rings put on his fingers.

You clearly aren’t seeing the exact flaw with Lamar. Otherwise he’s the most gifted QB ever seen. You’ll get there eventually. What’s actually important?

Marino got his best shot as a rookie. I can’t be overly critical of him.

ARod unbelievably talented. Freakin’ zing that rock with a flick of his wrist while going backwards. Yet….flawed. Did become a champion. But a reason he came up short so much.