5 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

AR had no experience as a HC when he was hired by the Eagles

All we can do is hope for the best and know for certainty the calling can't get too much worse

14 years later....no Superbowl!

4 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Poor player execution gets you demoted. You can coach your arse off but if the guys aren't going to execute, it doesn't matter

But takes just perfection and superior talent to pull off out executing against other pros that already reading your play.

4 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Reports saying lot of the O coaching staff is unsure if they will be retained depending on new OC…. So can cross off a new OC not being able to bring in some if not all of there own guys

This is part of the power struggle. Siri even has mentioned that he’s made sure he wants to keep majority of his own guys to keep power control.

30 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

This is fair not saying Mannion won’t be successful but big difference between AR and Mannion is years coaching…. AR was still an NFL coach for what 15-16 years before becoming our HC…. Mannion just finished his 2nd season as a coach yea has playing experience but is that enough.

Either way i'm not gonna get worked up about it since there's nothing we can do about it

29 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

14 years later....no Superbowl!

I assume no SB win

The 33-year-old was a 2015 third-round pick by the Rams and played quarterback under several of today's top coaches during his journeyman career, including Sean McVay, Kevin Stefanski, Kevin O'Connell, and Klint Kubiak.

5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Poor player execution gets you demoted. You can coach your arse off but if the guys aren't going to execute, it doesn't matter

Other teams have guys get paid also. Along with paying the best coaches to figure out his to deal with everything.

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Uh, that's their JOB!!!!! Siri is the CEO which you still refuse to comprehend. No one can fix that issue but you. Siri is the head chef(Like Gordon Ramsey) and the minions are responsible for their own section to make theirs work and Siri puts it together. Any one of the chefs can ruin the dish. It's the head chefs job to make sure that doesn't happen. There, I explained it AGAIN. Get a grip on how this FO works. It's not Siri's job to do everyone elses job. If you watch Hells kitchen you will see Gordon Ramsey doesn't get dirty or make the food for any of them, neither does Siri do others work for them LOL. Every chef has their job to do and Gordon's and Siri's job is to make sure everyone else does theirs. "CEO"

If this had been the case then why are Rosie and our organization making such a point about how for the right OC coach coming in Siri would be willing to back off and seed more power to them?

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Sean Mannion just feels like an odd move for us another inexperienced OC with no play calling experience.

Now I’m curious if the Schefty report of Siri calling plays again might be true while we groom a promising young OC

We are screwed! Totally just wasting our dynasty window we should be in the middle of experiencing.

2 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Now,if these dishes continually come out like crap, THEN you need a new HC or head chef, or head anything. Obviously this last season one chef didn't get it done(Patullo) and many of the minion players as well. They were sloppy, unfocused and not up to professional standards. Patullo was weak, so weak Siri had to inject himself later, but you still can't deny Siri is a winning HC. I had high hopes for Patullo since he was around all this for 5 years and I'm sure the FO and Siri felt that would be enough. It wasn't and the decision was made to move on, so that's where we are. All teams make mistakes. Sadly we waited too long to hire anyone significant or they didn't want to be here. Well a few remain, but very few, so hopefully it will be worth the wait. Let's see who we get before we panic. The O line constant injuries didn't help either as well as the CB2 carousel

Problem begins with HC ‘O scheme’ being forced on the team this entire time.

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Sean Mannion just feels like an odd move for us another inexperienced OC with no play calling experience.

Now I’m curious if the Schefty report of Siri calling plays again might be true while we groom a promising young OC

What choices did we really have though? No proven or top O mind is willing ti take a job under Siri. He’s not a strong O mind.

1 hour ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

This Mannion hire also just feels like a we are locked in with him for 2+ years no matter what happens this coming season.

I don’t see this being a KP situation if we struggle on O Mannion going to be the scapegoat and fired

No way! This doesn’t work out real quick gotta finally fire Siri. Already been sooo long holding on for no real reasoning.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

Hunh? He has been run game coordinator for a few years... worked out pretty well last year right?

I don’t think things changed much. He coaches his style…which kind of dictates the run game anyway.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

You didn't like the run game last year when Barkley went over 2000 yards?

Predictable just overpowering….least sustainable way to succeed in the NFL

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

It's called NFL football...why are the simple things so difficult for you?

You have one elite coach then all just runs through him. But here? None really have ir gave answers or adjustments. None could actually attack matchups each week.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

It's called NFL football...why are the simple things so difficult for you?

Our situation it became so complicated.

56 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Either way i'm not gonna get worked up about it since there's nothing we can do about it

It’s actually what to get worked up about. This has been our weak link holding us back.

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

You didn't like the run game last year when Barkley went over 2000 yards?

Sure, what happened this year? 50% drop off after "demotion"

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Which wouldn’t be rebuilding the O. Would just be pouring most all draft resources into the D so long.

What "pouring in" is that? because we took 2 needed Secondary finally? Lane needs an heir.So does Goedert. RG was settled one year until Becton left. Glad we got Tank because Shipley has shown nothing and doesn't seem like RB3 to me. besides all that we need decent BU's for the left side. Who will cover if Mailata goes out? Besides AJ(who may not be here) and Smitty who do we have at WR? So other than CB2 and maybe an extra edge prospect we should be hitting the O side hard

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

You didn't like the run game last year when Barkley went over 2000 yards?

We were talking about Stoutlands "demotion"

2 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Well never mind about JBC we decided to hire Sean Mannion as our OC

No cooter. Kind of sad 🤣

1 hour ago, joemas6 said:

It's called NFL football...why are the simple things so difficult for you?

It's a HAMster wheel, where you run for miles,but don't get anywhere

Kubiak is the top name. But he needs that HC title.

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But takes just perfection and superior talent to pull off out executing against other pros that already reading your play.

If you execute it, it doesn't matter if they know they play or not if they can't stop it

12 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Sure, what happened this year? 50% drop off after "demotion"

No capable O mind to blend things together. But just not sustainable to rely on being just so superior as a means to produce.