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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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8 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

Lots of 1` year deals

Not much else can be done. Barely even done much of that. I haven’t had time to even actually look at these contract details yet. Frankly because Rosie so predictable with how he sets these contracts up. Nine times out of ten its contracts that free up short term cap space pushing the buck down the road on the future cap. One year deals especially consistently hit the actual cap year these guys are on the field super light with the void years carrying most of the actual.

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7 hours ago, DownwithDallas said:

Calm down it was a joke the #3 prospect fell to me then Ty Simpson fell so I figured I'd have fun with it. Plus one of those RB are my future FB. Size and speed of Derek Henry but if he bulked up hello he could be a stud lead blocker.

7 hours ago, DownwithDallas said:

Calm down it was just a joke mock

Draft talk super serious stuff in these parts….haha…honestly I pretty much just skip the million mock draft efforts on here until I formulate my own opinions more thoroughly. I’m a bit behind this draft. Gives a chance for the endless mock draft attempting posters to iron things out by the time I start paying much attention.

I do appreciate any and all efforts put into draft prep in all ways by any and all here. Don’t won’t my words to get taken the wrong way.

6 hours ago, DownwithDallas said:

We won't trade him till after June 1st when it becomes much more team friendly, 27 mil more friendly. Otherwise we better be getting at least 2 1st for him. I'll take 31, 95 and next years 1st from NE.

See this whole situation Rosie created really been screwing us. Want draft picks this draft. Should have traded AJ so obviously last season. Clearly created this whole situation of a team captain being such a toxic presence. So many really miss out on the key details that really matter in becoming a champion. Like how Rosie made a point of not choosing to extend certain guys during those seasons because of the atmosphere it would have created. You know…the guys that didn’t receive the extensions…you know….

Terrible!

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

See this whole situation Rosie created really been screwing us. Want draft picks this draft. Should have traded AJ so obviously last season. Clearly created this whole situation of a team captain being such a toxic presence. So many really miss out on the key details that really matter in becoming a champion. Like how Rosie made a point of not choosing to extend certain guys during those seasons because of the atmosphere it would have created. You know…the guys that didn’t receive the extensions…you know….

Terrible!

Rosie ego reared its head on the AJ situation. Could even argue it’s Rosie’s biggest weakness. I wouldn’t go that far myself though. Rosie’s biggest weakness is he isn’t a football guy. Ego very high on his weakness list though. Rosie proving he’d force AJ to be an Eagles. Which after paying AJ….then paying him again hand over fist…you’d think would give every reason for a player to shut up and play. Heck so especially right after making him

a champion. Not like Browns paying Garrett type situation. Sucking up …well sucking….for the bag. AJ got the bag…becoming a champion…yet disgruntled. Gotta ditch that guy immediately. Horrible organizational message that had and has been sending.

22 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Rosie ego reared its head on the AJ situation. Could even argue it’s Rosie’s biggest weakness. I wouldn’t go that far myself though. Rosie’s biggest weakness is he isn’t a football guy. Ego very high on his weakness list though. Rosie proving he’d force AJ to be an Eagles. Which after paying AJ….then paying him again hand over fist…you’d think would give every reason for a player to shut up and play. Heck so especially right after making him

a champion. Not like Browns paying Garrett type situation. Sucking up …well sucking….for the bag. AJ got the bag…becoming a champion…yet disgruntled. Gotta ditch that guy immediately. Horrible organizational message that had and has been sending.

You got me laughing over here. Now Howie is to blame for everything wrong. Hurts is the man though lol. I knew we had cowboys fans on here but damn calm down.

3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I wouldn’t have placed us in this position Rosie got us in with AJ for terrible reasons. This was a Rosie fail all the way. You can’t make him out as brilliant …on the total disaster he created on his own.

Lol... you would spend all the money each year...no clue

32 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

See this whole situation Rosie created really been screwing us. Want draft picks this draft. Should have traded AJ so obviously last season. Clearly created this whole situation of a team captain being such a toxic presence. So many really miss out on the key details that really matter in becoming a champion. Like how Rosie made a point of not choosing to extend certain guys during those seasons because of the atmosphere it would have created. You know…the guys that didn’t receive the extensions…you know….

Terrible!

Ham...there is a point that you should figure out silence is the best option

33 minutes ago, DownwithDallas said:

You got me laughing over here. Now Howie is to blame for everything wrong. Hurts is the man though lol. I knew we had cowboys fans on here but damn calm down.

AJ was already under contract for huge money. Everybody inside the organization knew exactly all about Hurts and AJ fallout already. Everything about Rosie throwing that extra dough to AJ after that created this whole situation.

10 hours ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Cant put a scheme together if your QB doesn’t like motion, doesn’t like throwing over the middle, doesn’t like under center , doesn’t want to run, wants simple concepts.

Numerous reports about HURTS!!!! But yea let’s keep blaming everyone else for Hurts nothing but excuses from his fans

Or….if the HC the entire time thinks he’s a quality O mind and never had a scheme put together. Heck…play design has stunk so often. Predictable plays even presnap plagued us this entire time under Siri. Even us here I’d want to believe understand you need multiple plays coming from each look. All this has proven out so extensively under Siri at this point. I was pointing it out in 2023 when our team was 10-1. Wasn’t sustainable. Yet I got piled on…because we were 10-1…those choosing to be blind to the situation were dead set on we were the best team in the league at that point. "Choosing” is the only word fitting for it. Completely glaringly obvious.

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3 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So................you were a QB, tell me how motion affected you reading defenses, getting the balls out and making the throws. Did motion change your delivery stance, or cause you to throw side arm? We provided numerous slot options, but Hurts can't find them. What was effective under Moore was RUNNING THE BALL and cutting back on Hurts passing (KISS). Hurts also ran the ball under Moore, which vanished last year under Patullo(aka Mr. side deal)

Crickets

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52 minutes ago, DownwithDallas said:

You got me laughing over here. Now Howie is to blame for everything wrong. Hurts is the man though lol. I knew we had cowboys fans on here but damn calm down.

That's why we love Ham,just pure entertainment value

But yeah sure…I’ve always volunteered Hurts needed development coming out of college. The exact areas you’d expect as a result from a player having a different O every season. Hurts was learning to work with a new coach and …just flat out learning a new O. Thrived in the Spread with his unbelievable Heisman worthy season. He ended up runner up due to that record breaking Burrow season…throwing to Jefferson and Chase. Two best WRs in the NFL now. Heck both possibly within discussion of being elite all time. So what areas would that college experience leave areas underdevelopment? Hurts didn’t have that TE experience. Hurts learning focused on new O system and coaching each season left low time to ever develop further in some …what all would it be labeled as? Most just generically refer to it as reading a D shortcomings. Which covers so many so much more specific areas of the job and running the O. Which is slightly fair enough. He wasn’t under C. He didn’t utilize motion.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

But yeah sure…I’ve always volunteered Hurts needed development coming out of college. The exact areas you’d expect as a result from a player having a different O every season. Hurts was learning to work with a new coach and …just flat out learning a new O. Thrived in the Spread with his unbelievable Heisman worthy season. He ended up runner up due to that record breaking Burrow season…throwing to Jefferson and Chase. Two best WRs in the NFL now. Heck both possibly within discussion of being elite all time. So what areas would that college experience leave areas underdevelopment? Hurts didn’t have that TE experience. Hurts learning focused on new O system and coaching each season left low time to ever develop further in some …what all would it be labeled as? Most just generically refer to it as reading a D shortcomings. Which covers so many so much more specific areas of the job and running the O. Which is slightly fair enough. He wasn’t under C. He didn’t utilize motion.

So yeah…that’s the QB we drafted. No rocket scientist level thinking required to link these most obvious areas he needed to be developed with.

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2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But yeah sure…I’ve always volunteered Hurts needed development coming out of college.

🤣

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

So yeah…that’s the QB we drafted. No rocket scientist level thinking required to link these most obvious areas he needed to be developed with.

Really just been the one HC in charge of taking the time, likely lumps resulting while key franchise QB developmental prioritization takes place….on and on…..of the point being Siri shortchanged developing our best ever franchise QB. Any top pick QB elsewhere? Never even remotely have been allowed to happen. Everybody understands and knows this. But….Hurts wasn’t locked in as being considered that franchise QB day one under Siri.

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16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Or….if the HC the entire time thinks he’s a quality O mind and never had a scheme put together. Heck…play design has stunk so often. Predictable plays even presnap plagued us this entire time under Siri. Even us here I’d want to believe understand you need multiple plays coming from each look. All this has proven out so extensively under Siri at this point. I was pointing it out in 2023 when our team was 10-1. Wasn’t sustainable. Yet I got piled on…because we were 10-1…those choosing to be blind to the situation were dead set on we were the best team in the league at that point. "Choosing” is the only word fitting for it. Completely glaringly obvious.

LMFAO 🤣

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2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Really just been the one HC in charge of taking the time, likely lumps resulting while key franchise QB developmental prioritization takes place….on and on…..of the point being Siri shortchanged developing our best ever franchise QB. Any top pick QB elsewhere? Never even remotely have been allowed to happen. Everybody understands and knows this. But….Hurts wasn’t locked in as being considered that franchise QB day one under Siri.

Dude STOP 🤣 My sides hurt 🤣

Just coach the guy. Every time #Hurtshaters try to label Hurts unfairly poorly in an area he’s proven them wrong. Time and time again. One season with Moore and Hurts did so many of these numerous doubts. Under C. Calling protections. Reading Ds. Threw over the middle when Moore moved Smitty or AJ(capable target) there. Ran the O empowered with audibles.

Motion

Reading a D is actually everything coming together on many fronts. First it comes based on scheme. Siri didn’t have. Second it comes from getting playcalls in sooner than the playclock running out breaking the huddle. Gotta have those elements to even possibly utilize Motion.

6 hours ago, DownwithDallas said:

You're kidding me right if they trade for AJ Brown I have them as Superbowl favorites. Especially after already adding Romeo Dobbs too. They had Diggs last year but he's getting old and not the same WR he was. Maye was still arguably one of the best QB in the league last year. You give him 2 improvements at WR and an upgrade at guard for more protection. Not to mention 2 new safeties and a new DE to improve their defense. They have been busy in FA.

Their schedule was pathetic. How many good teams did they even beat? Not much more than Broncos minus Nix. Which even still was shaky. Didn’t compete against Seachickens.

5 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

I suspect if the plan is to trade Brown the birds will draft a WR high in the draft.

If a good one is available that is

If? Haha…crazy to even be questioned. Only questioning should be surrounding why Rosie didn’t last season already.

5 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

Joking about the draft is a blasphemy on this board

Ok…you beat me to this….with a better response at that. Gotta give you full props on this one!

4 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

It IS!!!!!🤣

You beat me as well. Ok I was last to get there responding in this one.

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