34 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

At the combine he talks about how he watches Surtain and Slay. Could there have been a better answer for his future?

Will he get to wear # 27?      

BTW, The weak AFC South annoys me... Saints pick should have been much higher than 50.  just one more loss would have moved it up 6 slots to 44.  Really could have been even borderline 40.  Hopefully we don't have to move up to get any target.  

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Don’t know if you guys have been to Toledo, FL likely has, kid is ready to play in whatever crap whether. Seems like it’s always some rainy snow sleet cold mix weather every time I’ve been there 😟

Did see highlights and some of the ones were in pretty snowy weather... although, as a coverage guy, usually an advantage, like you said... How would Peyton Manning do if he didn't play so much in the domes?    But at least that helps via the tackling.  I think absolutely much harder to tackle in the open field in the weather.    But if he was a WR, I would have liked this even more. 

2 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Will he get to wear # 27?      

BTW, The weak AFC South annoys me... Saints pick should have been much higher than 50.  just one more loss would have moved it up 6 slots to 44.  Really could have been even borderline 40.  Hopefully we don't have to move up to get any target.  

Strong draft

49 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

At the combine he talks about how he watches Surtain and Slay. Could there have been a better answer for his future?

BTW... great tangibles! 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Did see highlights and some of the ones were in pretty snowy weather... although, as a coverage guy, usually an advantage, like you said... How would Peyton Manning do if he didn't play so much in the domes?    But at least that helps via the tackling.  I think absolutely much harder to tackle in the open field in the weather.    But if he was a WR, I would have liked this even more. 

It translates to The Linc is the point

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

BTW... great tangibles! 

9.79 RAS score

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

9.79 RAS score

With that being pulled down by his broad jump…not real important aspect 

Said he got up over 23 miles an hour

Born in Florida..should help that he already adjusted. Toledo just terribly crap weather coming off Lake Erie

16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

It translates to The Linc is the point

Sure, but a shutdown CB in perfect weather would be more impressive ...right?   You could almost use it against him, now what happens if the weather is good... like in a SB?   I'm not concerned, just making the point, would be more of a plus if he was a WR catching balls in cold weather.

16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

With that being pulled down by his broad jump…not real important aspect 

Not sure what RAS is... but whatever works.    You have your boy in here with the coach you wanted in Fangio... lets now move on to the picks we got to keep because we didn't trade up.  Thank you New Orleans!!!   

16 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Born in Florida..should help that he already adjusted. Toledo just terribly crap weather coming off Lake Erie

Man, now ou got me wanting to play tackle football in the snow!   I drive the field I used to play on my way to my son's little league... now you mention Lake Erie... I'm ready for one more game!   Get the sandwich bags over the socks and puts the cleats on and lets go play!!!!   Short routes ...all blocking and tackling in the snow!!!   

Man we played once with the wind blowing so hard... one direction you couldn't throw it 10 yards, the other direction the ball took off too far...lol.  

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Sure, but a shutdown CB in perfect weather would be more impressive ...right?   You could almost use it against him, now what happens if the weather is good... like in a SB?   I'm not concerned, just making the point, would be more of a plus if he was a WR catching balls in cold weather.

I don’t agree with that. CB have to react..,WR know where they are going.

6 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Not sure what RAS is... but whatever works.    You have your boy in here with the coach you wanted in Fangio... lets now move on to the picks we got to keep because we didn't trade up.  Thank you New Orleans!!!   

Height,weight, forty, bench…,tangibles..like you said…all his measurables generated RAS score.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

I don’t agree with that. CB have to react..,WR know where they are going.

You just said a few days ago that Manning got his stats in the dome.  Showing he struggled in cold weather vs New England... I said that their defense was really good then, probably was a huge factor... then you said sure, but playing in the dome helped.  

If it helps the passer being in good weather... then its worse for the defender.   Can't have it both ways.    The Wr absolutely wants the better weather, less wind etc.. makes it much asier to throw and catch.

 

3 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Man, now ou got me wanting to play tackle football in the snow!   I drive the field I used to play on my way to my son's little league... now you mention Lake Erie... I'm ready for one more game!   Get the sandwich bags over the socks and puts the cleats on and lets go play!!!!   Short routes ...all blocking and tackling in the snow!!!   

Man we played once with the wind blowing so hard... one direction you couldn't throw it 10 yards, the other direction the ball took off too far...lol.  

Oh yeah…I played in some crazy stuff. Nobody snow plowed off any fields for us.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Height,weight, forty, bench…,tangibles..like you said…all his measurables generated RAS score.

in a couple days we added Rodgers and Mitchell.    And your neighbors got a streaker!!!   Embiid put in 50... not a bad deal!

Just now, joemas6 said:

You just said a few days ago that Manning got his stats in the dome.  Showing he struggled in cold weather vs New England... I said that their defense was really good then, probably was a huge factor... then you said sure, but playing in the dome helped.  

If it helps the passer being in good weather... then its worse for the defender.   Can't have it both ways.    The Wr absolutely wants the better weather, less wind etc.. makes it much asier to throw and catch.

 

Making those cuts as a CB reacting on the outdoor slick field can be punishing. That’s the area I was highlighting a CB has to deal with.  A WR knows where and when he’s going to plant and cut. CB has to react on the fly. It’s a challenge.

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

in a couple days we added Rodgers and Mitchell.    And your neighbors got a streaker!!!   Embiid put in 50... not a bad deal!

Yeah I wimped out on the streaking…felt like a safe call Rosie wouldn’t dare draft a CB.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Oh yeah…I played in some crazy stuff. Nobody snow plowed off any fields for us.

The fields were great with the snow... soft landing.   The wind and the snow coming down was the issue.    I used to shoot hoops in the driveway after finishing cleaning it.  Ball would go in the snow on the grass.  But that was ok.     We used to play hockey out there... which now I think about it was crazy... half snow, ice...and half the road was paved some. Sprint... slow... slip...etc.  Lucky none of us ever hit our heads on the pavement.  

Really just a ton of great fits league wide pretty much. So many teams got their guy.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Making those cuts as a CB reacting on the outdoor slick field can be punishing. That’s the area I was highlighting a CB has to deal with.  A WR knows where and when he’s going to plant and cut. CB has to react on the fly. It’s a challenge.

The weather is different than the field.  the weather in the air... wind coming off of the lake ... that's the air.  The worse it is, means worse for the QB throwing and the WR catching.  You are describing just a slippery field... but saying the weather in the air is clean.  That wasn't what I saw on highlights 

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

The fields were great with the snow... soft landing.   The wind and the snow coming down was the issue.    I used to shoot hoops in the driveway after finishing cleaning it.  Ball would go in the snow on the grass.  But that was ok.     We used to play hockey out there... which now I think about it was crazy... half snow, ice...and half the road was paved some. Sprint... slow... slip...etc.  Lucky none of us ever hit our heads on the pavement.  

I did some insane sledding. Those runner sleds. So fast had tears going straight back from my eyes. Swear it felt like I was going fifty miles per hour. Balls to the wall!

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Yeah I wimped out on the streaking…felt like a safe call Rosie wouldn’t dare draft a CB.

Come on... the way the draft was falling.  I think the OT from Alabama was their guy... maybe the OT from Washington.   But the way it was going, the CBs were there.   The issue we have had here is they seemed to only have Surtain targeted before... otherwise, not sure CB was the right play in a while.  This year seemed it was a very realistic option.  

They believe in the passing game.... QB, lines, WR and CB.

The Arnold pick was great for the Lions as well. They have his teammate they drafted last season in the Secondary Branch. Should really speed up their cohesiveness. Lions look real tough. They are looking like the team to beat in the NFC this season. Just feels like they’ve taken a step forward each year here lately.