20 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Everyone knows it’s been reported on the rot between Hurts and AJ for years now…. Hell even team leader Brandon Graham commented on it…. But again let’s keep acting like Hurts isn’t at fault in the situation

Hurts brought AJ in to begin with. Trade AJ…obvious…long ago…not throw endless money his way instead

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Watching Tyler Shough executing Moore O and thriving with a significantly worse roster around him then watching Hurts try and do it in 2024 like night and day difference.

How is a rookie QB first year in the nfl new OC doing better under Moore then a 5 year pro in 2024 who had one of the best WR duos in the entire league, best OL in football, number 1 D unit best ground game.

Hurts is a runner... that's the reason he is in the NFL. He isn't there because of his passing or reading a defense. Nothing os ever going to " look" good with him...that's why for him, it's all about winning. Winning falls on his shoulders because that's his whole identity as a QB. There is no " elite" skill that defines him as a QB. His running is his best skill, which has a time limit that actually gets shorter if he refuses to actually do it.

21 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Why isn’t he going to be?

He hasn’t been…why wasn’t he last season?

21 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Some OC's didn't want to coach Hurts LOL

None want to be under Siri

1 minute ago, joemas6 said:

Hurts is a runner... that's the reason he is in the NFL. He isn't there because of his passing or reading a defense. Nothing os ever going to " look" good with him...that's why for him, it's all about winning. Winning falls on his shoulders because that's his whole identity as a QB. There is no " elite" skill that defines him as a QB. His running is his best skill, which has a time limit that actually gets shorter if he refuses to actually do it.

Elite intangibles leading

20 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

What new terminology? Everyone can learn it but Hurts? Yeah now you're getting it

There would be new terminology the moment our guys had to learn a new O

21 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

What new terminology? Everyone can learn it but Hurts? Yeah now you're getting it

Who learned it? Hasn’t happened yet. You are talking about everything yet to occur still. But there isn’t new terminology with a whole new O is the issue. Adding to Siri O most likely situation still.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

He hasn’t been…why wasn’t he last season?

Idk playing what 4 extra games into February shorten offseason to rest and recover. Same reason AJ brown was hurt going into last offseason because he severed an injury week 18 and played through it the entire playoffs and SB.

Not really rocket science here playing 20-21 games then expecting guys to get fully recovered in 6 months is tough…. Having extra 2-3 months is huge for the body and recovery

So they key to Hurts is surrounding him with elite talent across the board.. he wins with elite OL, elite running game, elite pass catchers and an elite defense.

When we had all those.. he won. Without that we see how it doesn't work.

20 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

That's what camp is for?????? Is Saquan stupid? AJ needs to learn how to run a post route now? All new???? These are highly paid professionals LMAO. C'mon now

Whole O needs to adjust as one together. Learn adapt and master all scenarios.

Look how much more advanced Brady, Brees, so many older QBs developed in their thirties.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Look how much more advanced Brady, Brees, so many older QBs developed in their thirties.

Which team do you think Hurts plays for in his 30s?

24 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

That's what camp is for?????? Is Saquan stupid? AJ needs to learn how to run a post route now? All new???? These are highly paid professionals LMAO. C'mon now

That’s what years and years of experience develop. AR still implementing new elements in KC.

Just now, joemas6 said:

Which team do you think Hurts plays for in his 30s?

Hopefully the NY Jets so ham can go be a NY hurts fan and we can get couple of there 1st rounders they have for 27

25 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

That's what camp is for?????? Is Saquan stupid? AJ needs to learn how to run a post route now? All new???? These are highly paid professionals LMAO. C'mon now

You oversimplifying everything so pathetically

23 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Then if a player got hurt going for the 2nd seed you would have found fault in Siri for that.

I don’t fault resting key guys. I fault still not beating pathetic leftovers we faced.

18 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Why is asking Hurts to be a competent QB unreasonable? Dude has failed as a passer for 3 years now one of which was under Moore who had a rookie QB thriving in NO

Get Siri out of the way and a competent qualified O to run. Then judge. He’s made the most of weakest situation.

27 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

That's what camp is for?????? Is Saquan stupid? AJ needs to learn how to run a post route now? All new???? These are highly paid professionals LMAO. C'mon now

Exactly ridiculous expectations. Something totally different will be mastered in one TC. No logic there.

26 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Then if a player got hurt going for the 2nd seed you would have found fault in Siri for that.

So Siri decides to keep players healthy for postseason as priority. Which explains most whole approach about what’s been going on.

21 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

But let’s keep making excuses for Hurts

It can’t even be argued or debated Siri is better than worst O in the league

20 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Watching Tyler Shough executing Moore O and thriving with a significantly worse roster around him then watching Hurts try and do it in 2024 like night and day difference.

How is a rookie QB first year in the nfl new OC doing better under Moore then a 5 year pro in 2024 who had one of the best WR duos in the entire league, best OL in football, number 1 D unit best ground game.

Moore without Siri…consistent same answer I’ve had the entire time. In fact I stated in March all hopes were lying with how far Siri would let Moore get in one season…by the end.

31 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Then if a player got hurt going for the 2nd seed you would have found fault in Siri for that.

Didn’t say otherwise. Asked simply what more could Hurts could have accomplish in the regular season? Lined up for the two seed.

15 minutes ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Idk playing what 4 extra games into February shorten offseason to rest and recover. Same reason AJ brown was hurt going into last offseason because he severed an injury week 18 and played through it the entire playoffs and SB.

Not really rocket science here playing 20-21 games then expecting guys to get fully recovered in 6 months is tough…. Having extra 2-3 months is huge for the body and recovery

Some don’t really recover. Which will it be? Neither of us could answer this definitively.

16 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

So they key to Hurts is surrounding him with elite talent across the board.. he wins with elite OL, elite running game, elite pass catchers and an elite defense.

When we had all those.. he won. Without that we see how it doesn't work.

To overcome worst O scheme under Siri that’s what our guys have been doing. So much more impressive than you realize not understanding these key factor.

17 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

So they key to Hurts is surrounding him with elite talent across the board.. he wins with elite OL, elite running game, elite pass catchers and an elite defense.

When we had all those.. he won. Without that we see how it doesn't work.

What we’ve seen is the more it’s Siri…the worse things unfold. Worst collapse…how bad things got under Siri. Can’t get anymore obvious than that.