8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Well what is he supposed to say ":this guy sucks and we need someone else"? LOL But Stoutland is excellent. he could be even better if we provide better talent

Stout picked out Mailata and molded him. Can’t think of any coach I give carte blanche too more

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Powers-Johnson would be awesome under Soutland in my view and better than Steen

Maybe a better C than Jurgens even. He's a madman if you can funnel that intensity

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Stout picked out Mailata and molded him. Can’t think of any coach I give carte blanche too more

yeah but as i said who else does he have at this point?

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Well he has to like him because there is no one else at the present time

Again no he doesn’t have to like him he can make it work sure but again far cry from endorsing him lol. 
Again Stout can be like hey we need a G does that mean we address it no 

Now if stout like hey Steens my guy he our starter that says a ton in my opinion 

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Again Stout can be like hey we need a G does that mean we address it no 

It means we should.it's a hint he thinks there are better guys to be had

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

There is no " don't set up your guy to succeed " idea here...otherwise we don't do it for Hurts in 2022.  

Just pay the guy early....use Wentz as the example...pay early and you can easily get out of the deal.  Wait.. you overpay and never can recover.  Howie is doing that this offseason with everyone... yet cap hits are all low using the max amount of years to spread things out .. and then also beating the market spike. 

Not all brilliance paying guys early…when you are backing up the Brinks truck to do it.

Steen is "the guy" because there is no one else is all I am saying. maybe he is,but I'd like some competition to prove it

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not all brilliance paying guys early…when you are backing up the Brinks truck to do it.

Then later you need 2 Brinks trucks

7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Not really sold on Opeta either. I am more cynical than you

He’s gone now…so that doesn’t matter anymore. Just saw Opeta as serviceable. That’s a point many aren’t seeming to consider here. Stout can get serviceable work out along the Oline. Could we get by with Steen under Stout while having a more talented player brought in at another position? Would this make us a better team as a whole?

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Maybe a better C than Jurgens even. He's a madman if you can funnel that intensity

In my eyes much better.

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/players-roster/  Here's the roster,only 1 G listed,the other 3 are "OL" Not much competition for Steen here thus far

5 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Steen is "the guy" because there is no one else is all I am saying. maybe he is,but I'd like some competition to prove it

Hennessy…but yeah I see your point. Iron sharpens iron.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Hennessy…but yeah I see your point. Iron sharpens iron.

So say PJ is a better C,then let Jurgens compete at RG. If Jurgens is a better C PJ can compete for the G spot. yeah I really feel Stoutland would love to have more guys to work with

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So say PJ is a better C,then let Jurgens compete at RG. If Jurgens is a better C PJ can compete for the G spot. yeah I really feel Stoutland would love to have more guys to work with

And then we have the depth we lack right now

So the real questions are 1) w/ the run on OL in the 1st, who is left that would be an improvement over Steen and 2) how would that person compare to other getable players at other positions

TBH I know nothing about Hennessey

When Kelce said what he said about Jurgens I felt the question at C was answered, now not so sure

2 minutes ago, mjkline1958 said:

So the real questions are 1) w/ the run on OL in the 1st, who is left that would be an improvement over Steen and 2) how would that person compare to other getable players at other positions

I don't think we should ignore an O line pick tonight. Gotta look at Cooper at LB,Mahogany is one of the few T/G's left,but 53 is too high for him

1 minute ago, mjkline1958 said:

When Kelce said what he said about Jurgens I felt the question at C was answered, now not so sure

Kelce also said Dickerson was the guy LOL

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I don't think we should ignore an O line pick tonight. Gotta look at Cooper at LB,Mahogany is one of the few T/G's left,but 53 is too high for him

Still a million ways to go. Board is still stacked as far as I’m concerned.

We could go WR Franklin and TE Sinnett…I’d be fine with that…..LB Wilson and DT Jenkins….think Rosie probably trades back today…but would be perfectly fine if we just grab two significant players pretty much play anywhere.

26 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

So far …the big downfield plays has been the strength.

Not really...that's the WRs making the adjustments.... his strength is nailing that slant and short cross like its a handoff... very excellent throwing that ball in a small window.  

23 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not all brilliance paying guys early…when you are backing up the Brinks truck to do it.

But you don't back up the " salary cap brinks truck"  that's a separate truck.  Ive been trying to explain it to you for years. 

Didn't Smith get 3 years 75 mil extension...after the 5th year option... which means until 2028.

Yet total cap hits are $61 million from 2024 to 2028.    

Different brink trucks... pay the player ,with a separate brink truck,  do it early to make them happy.

Keep the cap hit brink truck from being used... by paying the player early.

And I've been trying to explain how it starts the cycle....start after year 3, then you can keep restructuring early on a quality player.   Keeps saving cap.   You miss one...and it doesn't matter. 

Jerruh is on opposite cycle...he can't seem to break it.

10 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

Not really...that's the WRs making the adjustments.... his strength is nailing that slant and short cross like its a handoff... very excellent throwing that ball in a small window.  

He’s been the making the explosive plays maker. But I can agree that he could totally be the short and intermediate timing accurate passer. Really what I hope is the main point of emphasis this offseason. We all know Hurts will work his butt off to accomplish whichever tasks are presented to him this offseason.

9 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He’s been the making the explosive plays maker. But I can agree that he could totally be the short and intermediate timing accurate passer. Really what I hope is the main point of emphasis this offseason. We all know Hurts will work his butt off to accomplish whichever tasks are presented to him this offseason.

Ham, use your eyes... when the slant is on the money in tight coverage, thats the QB.  When they hit a jump ball or a long underthrown pass where the WR is ahead of the DB.. thats the WR making that play.  Stop with 2022 new definition of explosive plays.