1 minute ago, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Understandable from A fan point I’d agree little to know information on him but again I’d Stout is saying he is the guy I’d believe in Stout 

Well what is he supposed to say ":this guy sucks and we need someone else"? LOL But Stoutland is excellent. he could be even better if we provide better talent

9 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I'm trying to work Powers-Johnson in here somewhere LOL

Him And DeJean ship has sailed on I think

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Could you imagine if he slipped to 50?

Well Dejean fell out of 1,so who knows LOL

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

We brought no TE's in for visits

Have we only drafted guys we had in for visits? I really didn’t know this why I’m asking 

DeJean is now DeJected

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Have we only drafted guys we had in for visits? I really didn’t know this why I’m asking 

Not all but 67% we do,so a TE is not out of the question by any means. We could have found one we liked at the combine or pro day

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Well what is he supposed to say ":this guy sucks and we need someone else"? LOL But Stoutland is excellent. he could be even better if we provide better talent

I mean I don’t think Stout is going to come out and back a guy as a starter if he doesn’t believe it just the way I’ve perceived him. I don’t think he would bad mouth Steen but that far from an endorsing him as the starter as well 

I would say just eyeballing it that line guys ARE who we have visits with

6 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Its the combination that has been the most brutal

There is no " don't set up your guy to succeed " idea here...otherwise we don't do it for Hurts in 2022.  

Just pay the guy early....use Wentz as the example...pay early and you can easily get out of the deal.  Wait.. you overpay and never can recover.  Howie is doing that this offseason with everyone... yet cap hits are all low using the max amount of years to spread things out .. and then also beating the market spike. 

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

I mean I don’t think Stout is going to come out and back a guy as a starter if he doesn’t believe it just the way I’ve perceived him. I don’t think he would bad mouth Steen but that far from an endorsing him as the starter as well 

Well he has to like him because there is no one else at the present time

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

I'm not really a Steen fan. I suppose I need to see more,but right now he's not a guy I could trust if we have a post season injury

He’s a day two draft pick…with a year of Stout seasoning under his belt. Pretty similar to anything you’d be talking about at this point. Exactly why and what he was drafted for. Jurgens just held on to the job. If coach had rolled with Steen instead of Opeta we’d have a much better idea for sure.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He’s a day two draft pick…with a year of Stout seasoning under his belt. Pretty similar to anything you’d be talking about at this point. Exactly why and what he was drafted for. Jurgens just held on to the job. If coach had rolled with Steen instead of Opeta we’d have a much better idea for sure.

Not really sold on Opeta either. I am more cynical than you

10 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

I think so...you have to play to your passers strength ... the shorter the route the better.  Get the YAC.... but the vertical routes can absolutely open up space for that short crossing pattern... really up to Hurts here.   Plus... and I think it's key.  Establish the run early. 

So far …the big downfield plays has been the strength.

Powers-Johnson would be awesome under Soutland in my view and better than Steen

8 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Well what is he supposed to say ":this guy sucks and we need someone else"? LOL But Stoutland is excellent. he could be even better if we provide better talent

Stout picked out Mailata and molded him. Can’t think of any coach I give carte blanche too more

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

Powers-Johnson would be awesome under Soutland in my view and better than Steen

Maybe a better C than Jurgens even. He's a madman if you can funnel that intensity

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Stout picked out Mailata and molded him. Can’t think of any coach I give carte blanche too more

yeah but as i said who else does he have at this point?

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Well he has to like him because there is no one else at the present time

Again no he doesn’t have to like him he can make it work sure but again far cry from endorsing him lol. 
Again Stout can be like hey we need a G does that mean we address it no 

Now if stout like hey Steens my guy he our starter that says a ton in my opinion 

Just now, Bleedinggreen93 said:

Again Stout can be like hey we need a G does that mean we address it no 

It means we should.it's a hint he thinks there are better guys to be had

7 minutes ago, joemas6 said:

There is no " don't set up your guy to succeed " idea here...otherwise we don't do it for Hurts in 2022.  

Just pay the guy early....use Wentz as the example...pay early and you can easily get out of the deal.  Wait.. you overpay and never can recover.  Howie is doing that this offseason with everyone... yet cap hits are all low using the max amount of years to spread things out .. and then also beating the market spike. 

Not all brilliance paying guys early…when you are backing up the Brinks truck to do it.

Steen is "the guy" because there is no one else is all I am saying. maybe he is,but I'd like some competition to prove it

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Not all brilliance paying guys early…when you are backing up the Brinks truck to do it.

Then later you need 2 Brinks trucks

7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Not really sold on Opeta either. I am more cynical than you

He’s gone now…so that doesn’t matter anymore. Just saw Opeta as serviceable. That’s a point many aren’t seeming to consider here. Stout can get serviceable work out along the Oline. Could we get by with Steen under Stout while having a more talented player brought in at another position? Would this make us a better team as a whole?

6 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Maybe a better C than Jurgens even. He's a madman if you can funnel that intensity

In my eyes much better.

https://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/team/players-roster/  Here's the roster,only 1 G listed,the other 3 are "OL" Not much competition for Steen here thus far