1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

LMAO he's nowhere near the receiver,he came 8 yards in 1 second????

Honestly this play isn’t something I broke down and can take credit for understanding. Much more knowledgable football minds than me broke it all down so I could understand what happened. Bellicheat took such a huge risk that only a coach with a terrible team against a quality team would take. It paid off for Bellicheat on that play. Credit to him on having such balls.

So let's assume it's press coverage,that guy came 8 yards(at least) in 1 second? AMAZING!!! He would actually have come 9 yards that fast blitz or no blitz please

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

You can't see reality. That doesn't make me a hater. Tell me you couldn't make this throw

I wouldn’t ever have made that read. Or any logical way that any QB goes about reading a D. That’s the crazy genius in what Bellicheat did on this play.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Honestly this play isn’t something I broke down and can take credit for understanding. Much more knowledgable football minds than me broke it all down so I could understand what happened. Bellicheat took such a huge risk that only a coach with a terrible team against a quality team would take. It paid off for Bellicheat on that play. Credit to him on having such balls.

Ok cool. I get that it wasn't a regular call,but the QB has to be aware at all times. he could have burned them badly just by reading the D. When you see blitz you roll a bit and there the wide open guy

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

So let's assume it's press coverage,that guy came 8 yards(at least) in 1 second? AMAZING!!! He would actually have come 9 yards that fast blitz or no blitz please

The defender was lined up on the 0 of the 50. He had made about three steps in his blitz run at Hurts for this freeze frame.

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I wouldn’t ever have made that read. Or any logical way that any QB goes about reading a D. That’s the crazy genius in what Bellicheat did on this play.

Well as I said I can't see a defender anywhere close and he can't run that far that fast. So I hope he learned from this when/if he sees it again. I said "this is the stuff Hurts needs to work on". So he got burned and I hope he knows now

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Ok cool. I get that it wasn't a regular call,but the QB has to be aware at all times. he could have burned them badly just by reading the D. When you see blitz you roll a bit and there the wide open guy

Totally could have burned them huge! Exactly why nobody would design a D play like that. 

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Well as I said I can't see a defender anywhere close and he can't run that far that fast. So I hope he learned from this when/if he sees it again. I said "this is the stuff Hurts needs to work on". So he got burned and I hope he knows now

Nobody ever will likely see this again. That was a crazy ball to the ball play that isn’t in any playbooks. Only a mad genius that’s completely desperate with nothing to lose would try that.

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Totally could have burned them huge! Exactly why nobody would design a D play like that. 

So now if he sees that again he will know,or should. Doesn't make me a hater to point out this was an easy toss IF he would have readthe blitz possibility and made the audible

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So now if he sees that again he will know,or should. Doesn't make me a hater to point out this was an easy toss IF he would have readthe blitz possibility and made the audible

Teams DO run CB or S blitz's. I just want him to learn from this boo boo(and that;s what it is)

1 minute ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Teams DO run CB or S blitz's. I just want him to learn from this boo boo(and that;s what it is)

Totally teams do that. But not when nobody else can roll to cover the guy. We had three receivers out to the left. A S or CB blitz is designed so another defender covers for the guy. This was deliberate nobody could  cover.

Hurts has missed plenty enough reads to complain about…just saying this isn’t the one.

This Bellicheat Uber aggressive playcall is pretty much the exact opposite of the way our D has played.

I want Hurts to make the reads…and work the defenders(usually a S) more. You know look off the receiver or any deliberate attempts to freeze a S(or whatever defender) to open up larger windows.🪟

6 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

https://www.outkick.com/sports/eagles-seem-to-be-getting-annoyed-with-how-loud-and-passionate-their-fans-are-during-home-games  Does seem there are some issues with this. Fans need to take a hint. However,Hurts needs to quiet them every play if that's what it takes. I've never been there so IDK personally and IDK if it's the same everywhere,I would assume it is. I know it's LOUD in Seattle. I would like the fans to take the hint especially with a new C or there will be alot of false starts 

Yeah...  2023 the first time fans were loud...  ??? Come on???? 

6 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

What is it you two see here that occurred? The play has been discussed heavily.

We see a bad decision... with this RPO type of mentality....where it's the QB deciding the option of hand it off or keep it to pass... we see the wide open TE and AJ also coming open via the numbers at the bottom.    

All the weightlifting... the clichés ... the QB position still comes down to 2 things.... making decisions/ reads.... which can be lumped into " seeing the field".... and then making the throw. 

Regardless of all the other stuff... these 2 things ultimately are all that matters. 

6 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts isn’t expecting him to be open with nobody covering him, why?

Because growing up a running QB.... squatting 600lbs was what got him success as a amateur player and into the league.... not the mental side of the game where most QBs develop the mind of anticipation of what the coverage is.   You don't need to develop that , when in your mind you just can keep the ball yourself and make make the play. 

This is the challenge the running QBs ....which are different than " mobile" QBs...face when coming into a league where they can't just run themselves all the time.

6 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This was a crazy gamble by Bellicheat. You hear about All Out Blitz. That’s when you lock up every receiver man to man and bring the rest. What’s the name of this D playcall? No idea…never seen it in any playbooks really. He deliberately had the guy that should be man covering ..also blitz and leaving him uncovered. He blitzed more guys than even an All Out Blitz. Just Riverboat went for it and it worked for him. Bellicheat took that gamble because nobody ever does that…or would read to expect that. Balls!

Was it a gamble though?   When you do this as a DC... you basically are saying that the QB won't process the blitz fast enough to know where to attack it.    Not sure if it's a gamble or just common sense here.   🤔 

5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So he can't quiet the crowd???

Best QB in franchise history.... but can't quiet the crowd?   You are missing the weight room... in a miracle..2024 pro football players lift weights al year round...that's Hurts baby!    The inspiration of inspiration! 

5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The average fan doesn't know to be quiet on O,they are there for fun and to root for the team. As i said,I imagine this is everywhere. Other teams cope with it,but we're the exception?

The fans in Philly absolutely know to make noise on defense... lol.   

5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Any QB would read that at least one guy over there was in charge of covering the WR. Surely the actual intent on the playcall couldn’t be to plan on NOT covering a receiver.

I mean...the QB is allowed to look.    What if the defender slips and falls?  Are you saying Hurts will never take advantage of that because it's " unexpected " ?   Basically he is too dumb to figure anything out as it happens?

5 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I know the answer. Trying to explain it so you can understand what actually happened and why

Nah...you are trying to spin it to where we all give Hurts a pass.

Again...simple concept... you can snap your fingers to pick something that Hurts can improve.  

Is it physical or mental.  For me, it's easy... his mind processes things too slowly.  Year 5 of being an NFL QB... QB is supposed to be the smartest guy on the field.   I don't think Hurts will ever fail due to anything physical... regardless of height or arm strength ... he can overcome that for the most part.  The fumble in the Superbowl to me was a fluke as he usually handles the ball well... but the mental part, processing blitz and coverage quickly... where to throw etc.  That's what I feel will be any reason he has for coming up short. 

2 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Yeah...  2023 the first time fans were loud...  ??? Come on???? 

They keep moving towards wussie ball. Everyone is a victim of something now. "Can't play I have a hangnail"  "Crowd is too loud" "The field wasn't perfect" Whatever excuse works. Bubble ball by 2029 only in indoor stadiums, but now they will need sound proofing plexiglas and Bose noise cancelling headphones in all helmets

7 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

They keep moving towards wussie ball. Everyone is a victim of something now. "Can't play I have a hangnail"  "Crowd is too loud" "The field wasn't perfect" Whatever excuse works. Bubble ball by 2029 only in indoor stadiums, but now they will need sound proofing plexiglas and Bose noise cancelling headphones in all helmets

I was reading a report saying this OL we just signed from the Jets is going to be looked at for RG.   We shall see.

 

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

I was reading a report saying this OL we just signed from the Jets is going to be looked at for RG.   We shall see.

 

Whatever/whomever works!!! I really want to return to the DOMINATING pass rush. O linemen are getting bigger and faster to stop those defensive masses of humanity however. I read an article about weight changes in NFL players over the past decades. I was 175 in HS and that was enough to play TE(and RB) 🤣. Now the gatorade people weigh that