1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We weren’t together. But managed to win those games at the end when it counted.

So 10/11 teams were less ready than we were

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He scored it on any and all downs. Bogus Hurts hating. Like every QB sneak was on fourth down. Lions had the top Oline last year. Hurts perfected the QB sneak like nobody has ever done before.

We had one of the best Olines to make his "sneaks" possible. And they weren't sneaks they were PUSHES. Another example of you not being able to say "yeah you're right" just flailing away in the quicksand of "I'm always right", calling others "DUMB" when you can't see what's happening right before your eyes. How would the tush push go with Hurts in Chicago,same results???? Lions had a top O line,didn't NEED to tush push and got deeper into the playoffs that we did while not risking their QB to a twisting leg injury. And why do I care what the Lions do???? Hurts got alot of "his" stats from our OFFENSIVE LINE. What's dumb is calling other people dumb before looking in the mirror. Time for your boy to play like an NFL QB unless the O line falls right into place so he can run tush pushes all year long. And BTW we should not be doing tush pushes on 3rd down with the weapons Hurts has available

4 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Ham's point of view is everything sucked from day 1 ...except the QB.  Who carried us to 10-1.

Absolutely correct

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

But you say D could know the play and we still should put up 32 points.

This is WAY off the topic of "the coach didn't say much" isn't it? And BTW when did I ever say that about the defense(even though that is a separate subject). If the D knows the play,then you need your QB to audible??? Isn't that part of a QB's job???? If you cannot read defenses,then of course you cannot audible because you see nothing wrong

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

I watch this team every season. We started week one looking like we needed two more weeks of TC. 

Did we win the game week 1????

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Did we win the game week 1????

Squeaked out a win versus the third overall pick team

1 hour ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Hurts converting

You mean the Oline converting? Only way this play succeeds is if the Oline gets penetration. Not hard to bury your head like an ostrich and be pushed from behind after your Oline has road graded ahead of you)

1 minute ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Squeaked out a win versus the third overall pick team

So we won????,then won 9 of the next 10 also?

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

You mean the Oline converting? Only way this play succeeds is if the Oline gets penetration. Not hard to bury your head like an ostrich and be pushed from behind after your Oline has road graded ahead of you)

Evidently it isn’t that easy since Hurts has by far dominated converting short yardage better than any player in NFL history

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

So we won????,then won 9 of the next 10 also?

So 10 "flukes" and 1 reality loss?

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Evidently it isn’t that easy since Hurts has by far dominated converting short yardage better than any player in NFL history

The O line converts them

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

So we won????,then won 9 of the next 10 also?

Yes we barely beat the third worst team….real studly contending stuff there

Just now, GreenbleedinNC said:

The O line converts them

Of course you gotta say anything other than give Hurts any credit

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Yes we barely beat the third worst team….real studly contending stuff there

So they were less ready than we were which makes my point

Just now, cunninghamtheman said:

Of course you gotta say anything other than give Hurts any credit

No need to run that many tush pushes in a year if you are operating one of the best offenses in the league

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

So they were less ready than we were which makes my point

If your point was the Pats were terrible beggining to end? Then I agree. That we struggled to put them away goes to show just how shaky are team was last year.

3 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Of course you gotta say anything other than give Hurts any credit

Hurts is an excellent runner,he should be able to run,move in the pocket or throw for first downs. That is his job. The tush push should not be 50% of your offense and now that TB figured out how to stop it we're going to need actual QB play now.

2 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

If your point was the Pats were terrible beggining to end? Then I agree. That we struggled to put them away goes to show just how shaky are team was last year.

10-1 was "shaky all year" ??? We controlled our own destiny, so saying we were shaky for 11 weeks IS DUMB because you don't go 10-1 that way. Shaky would be 5-5-1

3 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

Hurts is an excellent runner,he should be able to run,move in the pocket or throw for first downs. That is his job. The tush push should not be 50% of your offense and now that TB figured out how to stop it we're going to need actual QB play now.

Tush pushing along as the second best O much of last season…until the book was out on us.

2 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

10-1 was "shaky all year" ??? We controlled our own destiny, so saying we were shaky for 11 weeks IS DUMB because you don't go 10-1 that way. Shaky would be 5-5-1

11-6…but it was shaky. 

The coaching just wasn’t ready and wasn’t up to any levels we need to be a real legit team.

5 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

11-6…but it was shaky. 

The shaky part began after the bye week

7 minutes ago, cunninghamtheman said:

Tush pushing along as the second best O much of last season…until the book was out on us.

So if we were the second best O,how can you define that as shaky? Only 1 team better than us on O? That is shaky? I disagree

4 minutes ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

The shaky part began after the bye week

Guess we define it differently then. Week one dumb HC pronounced third string Gainwell the starter. So that had something to do with only barely pulling out a win against the terrible Pats.

So we went 10-1 with a shaky and also vanilla offense powered mostly by the O line and the tush push conversions. Now the O line has changed and I hope the vanilla will also change because 1/2 your offense cannot be the tush push. It should not have been last year either