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Ongoing Eagles New Discussion volume 2

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2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

One moment you swear he’s one read and run. Then you claim he holds the ball too long

That's still 1 read and run(for the sidelines for a 1 yard gain) or let's just take the JV EZ sack instead LOL

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2 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You must see him as a miracle worker to get us to 12 wins

His supporting cast is one of the best in the league. It would take severe "talent" to fail,but I get it Hurts would win 10 games and everyone else 2 as Hurts "carried everyone" in my scenario

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I'm still waiting for your (vanishing) prediction(besides the 10 wins) that you are "calling". You never answered this. Since you apparently "predicted" everything in past years, I want to know this years predictions AHEAD of time.

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3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You must see him as a miracle worker to get us to 12 wins

Yet you don't calling 10 . Less than 10 will be "poor coaching and play calling" Or the refs,a missed tackle on a previous play,a false start that throws Hurts completely off track or whatever else you come up with

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3 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

You said you believed Pickett was the better passer. Which is just another shot at Hurts.

Maybe he is a better passer with this team IDK,but he seems to process decisions and acts on them. I haven't seen him play with this team,yet you equate that to me saying he is a better QB(which I never said). Just stretch the words to fit the scenario LOL. Hurts is fairly weak in that area as far as NFL talent The fact remains,it's time for Hurts to step up his passing game whether you see it or not(and we know you don't) So let's hear this years prediction.Will we collapse,which week does that happen? Will we only win 5 games because of the coaching changes? NM you already said 10 wins unless we collapse after this years bye. So let's hear the predictions,the stage is yours

Most valuable player stat by pro football reference has Hurts as 7th…yeah he really just sucks

16 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He’s the number one selling jersey everywhere else in the world

Yeah.... the talk the last few days.... especially after Lane Johnson interview. 

"Jalen being more vocal leader this year"    ... so naturally like yourself, the hosts just can't get past last year and his lack of being vocal last year.  Like yourself...anything being improved,  it automatically triggers what was wrong last year, and with Hurts,discussion goes to " Lane and everyone else saying Hurts is more vocal, but also basically acknowledging he wasn't vocal enough last year".

16 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

He’s the number one selling jersey everywhere else in the world

The conversation yesterday was about the " hot routes " or adjustments. 

Conversation went...

Jon Ritchie: " I guarantee the coaches had those in there"    but there was a disconnect in trusting the players or a belief maybe they couldn't understand when to use them... with the veteran center and WR and TE... the assumption there is that it was a shortcoming of the QB.

That's conversation that isn't on hear.  It's talk from local media...  you live local??? If so, and you say you are an obsessed Eagles fanatic... then you should be hearing all these things.  

Way worse than anything on here.

16 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

We got a guy clamoring for him to be benched for the backup. Then the backup comes in and we can’t win without Hurts. All the Hurts Haters do is give credit to his teammates. How they do everything. Or worse yet that our QB1 is holding them back so much.

Hugh Douglass last week.    At the moment now, the perception around the league... the Eagles have the surrounding cast, the question is if 2022 was a fluke season for the QB.  He has a lot to prove this year.  If he has a problem with the coach,  the Eagles showed they believe in the coach,  so now it's up to the QB.  He has no excuses with his surrounding cast.

Really you should pay attention.    Locally Jon Ritchie,  Hugh Douglas and Ike Reese are on 12 hours a day...  Barrett Brooks also is on TV every day.   Plenty to see here...instead of reading Bleacher report with their BS stuff.

Obvious other perception. 

The Eagles kinda forced the 2 coordinators on a young coach who didn't have the deep connections to have all these last minute choices... unlike when he brought in " His" choices when he was hired 2 years ago.

The two coordinators would have brought in 3rd round comp picks if they got hired away due to being minorities.   The OC was the QB's guy since childhood.... not really coach's guy.

The perception now is Moore is Siri’s guy.  Bringing in stuff that was missing.

Idk...maybe that's stuff to focus on...instead of " OMG Siri is talking trash to Giants fans"    

Choosing which TMZ stuff to worry about ...( when it's a guy you don't like) vs ignoring all the football related talk about a QB you worship at the alter... that's an agenda. 

Take it all in... can't cherry pick what you want to be the reality. 

 

Why I feel good about this team... I believed there was a low bar for the QB as far as his accountability.   The dumb clichés.... treated like a little brother playing with his big bro and friends... treated with kid gloves.

The honeymoon is over now....nobody kissing his arse anymore.  I believe that was needed.   I believe this will make him better.   Which makes the team better. 

Plus better talent...easier schedule..and a bad taste in their mouthed with things to prove.

I don't need " the genius offensive mind "   I don't believe in coaching " genius"  they set culture and obviously help ...but they can't magically win games. You need players to block,tackle,  throw,  catch, run..etc.

KC has their full staff coming back to try to 3 peat...    that's a huge advantage for stability, culture...etc. 

Keep this in mind compared to other teams constantly losing staff.  Huge advantage for Andy Reid.  

18 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

This theory was proven very wrong when the third string came in and was doing ok

What was " ok" ... did you pay attention...

Or is the agenda.... all coaches,  GMs, backup QBs suck.....let's find everything to make the OL and weapons not look good....  

It has to be any and all things that force the agenda that the ONLY good thing in the organization is Hurts...he just makes everyone else ... 

At what point do you realize that EVERYTHING you post... has this agenda.   Hurts is paid already... you can let it go.   Pittsburgh offense was a dumpster fire last year...their OC made the Hurts family friend look like Bill Walsh.

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10 hours ago, cunninghamtheman said:

For what fantasy? And who decided and what was the criteria? Nobody said Hurts wasn't valuable,we said he needs to be BETTER

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On 6/27/2024 at 5:16 PM, cunninghamtheman said:

Always excuses for Fields and others….but nothing but blame for Hurts

How about having the best O line in the league? Means nothing I guess. With 5 seconds of protection you can't locate anyone to throw to? With the stellar receivers we have? No one at all? 

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On 6/27/2024 at 5:06 PM, cunninghamtheman said:

You said you believed Pickett was the better passer. Which is just another shot at Hurts.

IDK can't say. If he had the time Hurts does,sure that is possible. We'll never know though

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On 6/27/2024 at 5:12 PM, cunninghamtheman said:

One moment you swear he’s one read and run. Then you claim he holds the ball too long

Correct. When you are running you are holding the ball???

14 hours ago, joemas6 said:

The conversation yesterday was about the " hot routes " or adjustments. 

Conversation went...

Jon Ritchie: " I guarantee the coaches had those in there"    but there was a disconnect in trusting the players or a belief maybe they couldn't understand when to use them... with the veteran center and WR and TE... the assumption there is that it was a shortcoming of the QB.

That's conversation that isn't on hear.  It's talk from local media...  you live local??? If so, and you say you are an obsessed Eagles fanatic... then you should be hearing all these things.  

Way worse than anything on here.

Yeah doesn’t add up at all. If the WR were breaking off and reading to alternate to a Hot Route instead….then they wouldn’t have been still in these long developing routes while the blitz heat was bearing down. But way before any of that….whole stadium knew the blitz was coming as an expectation. So seems pretty clearly on the coaching end of things. Why go with that play all in the first place under these most likely blitz situations? Bad playcall, no hotroute adjustments and limited predictable audible answer adjustment….all that put together just screams Siri had zero X and O answers.

14 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Obvious other perception. 

The Eagles kinda forced the 2 coordinators on a young coach who didn't have the deep connections to have all these last minute choices... unlike when he brought in " His" choices when he was hired 2 years ago.

The two coordinators would have brought in 3rd round comp picks if they got hired away due to being minorities.   The OC was the QB's guy since childhood.... not really coach's guy.

The perception now is Moore is Siri’s guy.  Bringing in stuff that was missing.

Idk...maybe that's stuff to focus on...instead of " OMG Siri is talking trash to Giants fans"    

Choosing which TMZ stuff to worry about ...( when it's a guy you don't like) vs ignoring all the football related talk about a QB you worship at the alter... that's an agenda. 

Take it all in... can't cherry pick what you want to be the reality. 

 

The guy that was the second option for Rosie to hire instead of Siri for the HC job…you some how are concluding is Siri’s guy and choice? Sure

  By "the stuff that was missing” …you are referring to an O scheme I assume?

13 hours ago, joemas6 said:

Why I feel good about this team... I believed there was a low bar for the QB as far as his accountability.   The dumb clichés.... treated like a little brother playing with his big bro and friends... treated with kid gloves.

The honeymoon is over now....nobody kissing his arse anymore.  I believe that was needed.   I believe this will make him better.   Which makes the team better. 

Plus better talent...easier schedule..and a bad taste in their mouthed with things to prove.

I don't need " the genius offensive mind "   I don't believe in coaching " genius"  they set culture and obviously help ...but they can't magically win games. You need players to block,tackle,  throw,  catch, run..etc.

Coming from the guy that labeled AR the Bronze Standard…I’d expect you don’t really understand the value of coaching. That comes right ahead of your lack of respect for intangible leadership qualities.

11 hours ago, joemas6 said:

What was " ok" ... did you pay attention...

Or is the agenda.... all coaches,  GMs, backup QBs suck.....let's find everything to make the OL and weapons not look good....  

It has to be any and all things that force the agenda that the ONLY good thing in the organization is Hurts...he just makes everyone else ... 

At what point do you realize that EVERYTHING you post... has this agenda.   Hurts is paid already... you can let it go.   Pittsburgh offense was a dumpster fire last year...their OC made the Hurts family friend look like Bill Walsh.

Mason Rudolph came in and they won their last three games. He threw for almost three hundred yards and two TDs to spark their winning ways under his guidance. See ….I actually watch the games.

5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

How about having the best O line in the league? Means nothing I guess. With 5 seconds of protection you can't locate anyone to throw to? With the stellar receivers we have? No one at all? 

AJ broke the franchise receptions record…held by Smitty setting last season. Both seasons they were obviously receiving the passes from Hurts.

5 hours ago, GreenbleedinNC said:

For what fantasy? And who decided and what was the criteria? Nobody said Hurts wasn't valuable,we said he needs to be BETTER

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