2 hours ago, Mike030270 said:

Wonder how they'll deal with fake ones

Agreed.  With that being said, I hope the Eagles get a bunch of burner phones with Dallas area codes, and start going down the list 1 by 1.   

1 minute ago, hputenis said:

Agreed.  With that being said, I hope the Eagles get a bunch of burner phones with Dallas area codes, and start going down the list 1 by 1.   

"Ezekiel Elliot was at Golden Corral” 

2 minutes ago, hputenis said:

Agreed.  With that being said, I hope the Eagles get a bunch of burner phones with Dallas area codes, and start going down the list 1 by 1.   

We really need to get a hold of that number.

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

"Ezekiel Elliot was at Golden Corral” 

"Is this the anonymous snitch hotline?  Great, I continue seeing Jerry Jones and Ezekiel Elliot have 1 on 1 sessions in his office, even during team meetings.  They don't wear masks when they enter his office, but last time they came out dressed like this."

3 hours ago, myerstheman said:

Hunter can't even record an out.  wow

You seem shocked by the Phillies bullpen. Their ERA is 9.18 and teams are hitting .338. Klentak did an excellent job of doing nothing this offseason to fix the problem

16 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

You seem shocked by the Phillies bullpen. Their ERA is 9.18 and teams are hitting .338. Klentak did an excellent job of doing nothing this offseason to fix the problem

I haven't had this much anger towards a Philadelphia front office guy in a long time.  At least all the bad ones get fired eventually!  

25 minutes ago, hputenis said:

I haven't had this much anger towards a Philadelphia front office guy in a long time.  At least all the bad ones get fired eventually!  

Klentak should’ve been canned last offseason. Even worse then the bullpen is the farm system outside of bohm and howard is nowhere close to where it should be for how long we were just awful. Add on the approach they went with under Klentak has screwed with hoskins so much he can’t get back to the swing he had when he got called up. This team should be way further ahead of where they are right now if the Phillies FO were better at their jobs. 

17 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Klentak should’ve been canned last offseason. Even worse then the bullpen is the farm system outside of bohm and howard is nowhere close to where it should be for how long we were just awful. Add on the approach they went with under Klentak has screwed with hoskins so much he can’t get back to the swing he had when he got called up. This team should be way further ahead of where they are right now if the Phillies FO were better at their jobs. 

I would never praise Middleton, especially with what's going on with Realmuto right now, but didn't Klentak want to bring back Gabe and FOUGHT to bring him back?  Then he didn't want to hire Girardi, who was the clear choice to everyone with a brain?  Klentak and McFail have to have dirt on Middleton.   There's no explanation as to how these 2 have jobs.  Back to Klentak:

9 minutes ago, hputenis said:

I would never praise Middleton, especially with what's going on with Realmuto right now, but didn't Klentak want to bring back Gabe and FOUGHT to bring him back?  Then he didn't want to hire Girardi, who was the clear choice to everyone with a brain?  Klentak and McFail have to have dirt on Middleton.   There's no explanation as to how these 2 have jobs.  Back to Klentak:

Don’t forget Klentak also wanted to sign Manny Machado and not Bryce Harper. His preference was to go after Machado and really John Middleton was the one who close the deal to get Bryce Harper to Philadelphia otherwise we would’ve had neither of them

4 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Don’t forget Klentak also wanted to sign Manny Machado and not Bryce Harper. His preference was to go after Machado and really John Middleton was the one who close the deal to get Bryce Harper to Philadelphia otherwise we would’ve had neither of them

The contract given to Harper was stupid. Don’t understand the logic behind MLB front offices. The Nats sure did miss him... 

19 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

The contract given to Harper was stupid. Don’t understand the logic behind MLB front offices. The Nats sure did miss him... 

Baseball contracts blow my mind when you take in to account the number of at bats a guy has plus the amount of action they get at said position.  How many fly balls does Bryce actually have to deal with per game?  The average Right Fielder has about 200 fielding opportunities (2013 research, Beyondtheboxscore.com).  That's less that 2 per game.  Last year, Bryce Harper had 573 at bats seeing 682 pitches.  

So let's even round it up and say he was an active right fielder and a more patient hitter seeing 700 pitches and 300 fielding opportunities.  That's roughly 4 at bats and almost 2 fielding plays per game.  This doesn't take in to account any base running which is very important too.

2020, $26 million for 1,000 "plays" or $26,000 per play.  Think about that for a second.  I also went high on the averages.  Granted this doesn't take in to account the endless hours of training, practice and appearances but there are worst things to get paid for.  I'd love to get paid to have top end athletic trainers trying to get me in the best shape of my life.  Not included is his deal with Under Armor but that doesn't factor in to what the Phillies pay.

Every sport when you break it down in to game time just shows how ridiculous their contracts are. Relief pitchers and back-up quarterbacks have it made.  

Rant over.  Bottom line, the Phillies and Sixers are going no where.  They've both shown the same old tired things.  They Flyers on the other hand have me excited.  I'm lukewarm on the Eagles because of their impending cap mess and lack of legit young talent.  

10 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

LOL.  Are we actually going to review what athletes get paid?  Of course their salaries are bloated.  This is nothing new.  Talk about value, look at the average bench player in the NBA and equate his salary to output.  It’s a waste of time rehashing the same old argument.  Their salaries will be what the market dictates.  It’s a different world from you and I and we’ll never understand it.  

Oh I know.  It was just in response to a comment about Bryce Harper not being worth it.

56 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

If Harper stays healthy and hits 30-35 HR and drives in 100 rbi a year for another 6+ years that contract is not stupid.  It’s a more team friendly deal than most think especially a few years from now as the salary per year numbers continue to rise.  The Nationals winning the WS doesn’t make it a bad contract.  It makes their farm system good.  Criticize the Phillies for having a bad system and not developing young talent.   But criticizing them for the Harper contract is a reach.  

 

44 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Baseball contracts blow my mind when you take in to account the number of at bats a guy has plus the amount of action they get at said position.  How many fly balls does Bryce actually have to deal with per game?  The average Right Fielder has about 200 fielding opportunities (2013 research, Beyondtheboxscore.com).  That's less that 2 per game.  Last year, Bryce Harper had 573 at bats seeing 682 pitches.  

So let's even round it up and say he was an active right fielder and a more patient hitter seeing 700 pitches and 300 fielding opportunities.  That's roughly 4 at bats and almost 2 fielding plays per game.  This doesn't take in to account any base running which is very important too.

2020, $26 million for 1,000 "plays" or $26,000 per play.  Think about that for a second.  I also went high on the averages.  Granted this doesn't take in to account the endless hours of training, practice and appearances but there are worst things to get paid for.  I'd love to get paid to have top end athletic trainers trying to get me in the best shape of my life.  Not included is his deal with Under Armor but that doesn't factor in to what the Phillies pay.

Every sport when you break it down in to game time just shows how ridiculous their contracts are. Relief pitchers and back-up quarterbacks have it made.  

Rant over.  Bottom line, the Phillies and Sixers are going no where.  They've both shown the same old tired things.  They Flyers on the other hand have me excited.  I'm lukewarm on the Eagles because of their impending cap mess and lack of legit young talent.  

Harper is an above average all around player. It was a stupid contract. Overspend on pitching, play moneyball with hitting. 

1 hour ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

If Harper stays healthy and hits 30-35 HR and drives in 100 rbi a year for another 6+ years that contract is not stupid.  It’s a more team friendly deal than most think especially a few years from now as the salary per year numbers continue to rise.  The Nationals winning the WS doesn’t make it a bad contract.  It makes their farm system good.  Criticize the Phillies for having a bad system and not developing young talent.   But criticizing them for the Harper contract is a reach.  

Not only that they basically have had to build most of their roster via free agency and trade cause their draft and developing has not been very fruitful. Kingery looks bad this year and really looks more like a utility type of player. Hoskins has regressed every year since being called up. Haseley looks like an ok centerfielder. Nola is really good imo. Quinn is injury prone. And neris is solid out of the pen. That’s really about it for the Phillies development on the team. You have bohm and howard who look promising on the farm but other than that it’s not looking great. It’s why you have didi, harper, Realmuto, wheeler, arrieta, Bruce, mccutchen and segura on this roster via trade or FA. 

If anything winds up looking stupid it might be the Realmuto trade if he winds up leaving this offseason and we didn’t sign him long term. Harper’s contract is fine he’s 26 in his prime and at the rate he’s going in his career he is future hall of famer. He’s on pace to hit over 500 homeruns for his career 

Just now, 4for4EaglesNest said:

 

 

Guaranteed you didn't like the Wheeler contract either.  

 

 

Actually did like it. 
 

But who cares baseball is boring AF anyways. I can’t go to games so IDGAF 

1 minute ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

 

Harper is an above average all around player. It was a stupid contract. Overspend on pitching, play moneyball with hitting. 

The thing is, I do love the attitude and intensity that Harper plays with (insert fiery Jeff Garcia comments).  He's fun to watch, he knows he is an entertainer and has truly embraced the Philly fans.  He can be somewhat of a d-bag however.  

When the Phillies spend on pitching it always seems to flop.  When they find a good pitcher they seem to get injured.  Did I read that SirAnthony JUST had his surgery for an injury he suffered last year?

Salaries are not based on how many times a player makes physical contact with a baseball. They are based on how much revenue they generate through television, tickets , and the like. Baseball players are not "overpaid.” No one is holding a gun to the owners’s head for paying nor to the fans for watching. 
 

Sure it’s possible the Phillies marginally outbid other teams, but it’s not like his past performance warranted 85,000 per year. 

2 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

The thing is, I do love the attitude and intensity that Harper plays with (insert fiery Jeff Garcia comments).  He's fun to watch, he knows he is an entertainer and has truly embraced the Philly fans.  He can be somewhat of a d-bag however.  

When the Phillies spend on pitching it always seems to flop.  When they find a good pitcher they seem to get injured.  Did I read that SirAnthony JUST had his surgery for an injury he suffered last year?

Yeah the Phillies butchered that. They should’ve made him get the Tommy John surgery when he didn’t heal after 2 months off last year. They d***ed around and now they likely lose him for nearly all of 2021 as well. 

19 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

So you don't care about baseball.  Odd, since you seem so intelligent on the game.  

Yeah life’s rough sometimes. 

I must have went to the wrong site. I thought this was a Eagles message board

11 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

"Ezekiel Elliot was at the local **** house” 

FYP

34 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

It's not as if the Phillies are drafting and signing scrubs to their system.  It's the lack of development.  That's the main issue.  At one point our farm system was loaded.  

 

Crawford

Moniak

Alfaro

Nick Williams

Medina

Ruf

Hoskins

Cozens

Dom Brown

 

Were all highly touted prospects or players in the minors.  All meh....or busts.  

Not sure how many of those guys even with good development were guys I’d consider great prospects. I think most id say ceiling would be average starter to above average.

crawford was a great prospect but i think they gave up on him too soon cause he wasn’t a star right away. He’s played well with the mariners. Some of that Phillies development? For sure. Some of it is lack of patiences with a young kid. 

Imo Moniak should’ve never been drafted no. 1. He wasn’t the best prospect in that class. They did so to save money So they could spend it on later picks and sign them. Lack of development? Yeah but really he also was also never In my eyes truly worthy of the no. 1 overall pick. They reached 

alfaro i feel like crawford they gave up on him too soon and dealt him for Realmuto. Is that player development or lack of patience to see it out? Probably both  but then again they didn’t draft him.  They got him in the hamels deal

williams is a player development issue for sure. Had the talent and did nothing with it. Likely out of Mlb in 2 years. But again didn’t draft him he was in the hamels deal.

medina was always a middle To back end of the rotation guy. Never had the stuff to be a top end of the rotation guy. Frankly he got overrated by the Phillies cause their farm wasn’t great so he moved up higher as prospect then he likely was. Again player development was lacking but he also didn’t have high end stuff. Velasquez and pivetta have a better arms than him and i View their lack of development more than o see medina just not having good enough stuff. Likely if things broke well a no. 3 but more of a 4-5 

to me ruf, cozens and hoskins are all the same. They were built up as big time prospects imo they never should have been. Only Cozen could be considered a high draft pick (3rd round) and none imo had star power. Hoskins was 5th round and ruf 20th. People rushed to say hoskins was cause of his call up but he really was never going to be that type of great consistently. If he would’ve he’d be mike trout hard to see anyone pull that off. Cozens and ruf were good in triple A and the minors but that’s likely cause they are career minor leaguers. Was it poor player development or the fact they weren’t as talented of players as fans believed or people made them out to be based on they could be minor league stars. Probably both aspects  

brown was way before this regime but that was poor development for the overall talent he had. Also unfortunate we didn’t deal him when he had that hot streak at the Mlb level. 

I’d say yeah player development is definitely a major issue. However i think drafting guys hasn’t exactly been great especially a top of the draft either. Kind of goes hand in hand imo. Poor player development however i think some of those guys on the list just didn’t have elite talent that got overrated 

44 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Oh sorry.  Yeah, it's low hanging fruit saying "Harper isn't worth it".  Reminds me of the old "back in my day" argument my dad always made.  

and now you do it................................................. don't lie

4 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

I must have went to the wrong site. I thought this was a Eagles message board

quit ****ing and post something worthwhile. 

Sounds like he’s opting out 

9 minutes ago, greend said:

and now you do it................................................. don't lie

quit ****ing and post something worthwhile. 

Seams all your posts are pad posts with no real content like this. Id really like to see a post from you that actually has any real value thoughts on the Eagles. Im sure your reply will just be some lame remark like always so ill be sure to ignore it.