Just saying Bryce Harper playing around a MVP level right now for the Phillies. Too bad it’s only him, Realmuto and nola. Batting .341, .491 OBP, . 659 Slug and 4 homers and 10 RBIs. Also only 10 Ks in 13 games. 

26 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

You’re obsessed.   The guy is a clown.  It’s a waste of time.  

Eh just wanted to at least put an effort there rather than complaining about it.  Nothing will come from it.

I don’t see how this is good for Avery, who is pretty much a situational pass rusher. Good speed but a LB body.  Would suggest more hope for Miller as the number 5 DE.

”"I think there's a lot of depth there and I think it's just going to be, 'Hey, we're all going to get an opportunity,'" Burke explained. "We're looking for guys that can be three-down players. Obviously, we want guys that can rush the passer, but there's also an element of guys that can set edges in the run game and play hard and do all those sorts of things."

3 hours ago, Desertbirds said:

The impulse to trade your best players is a pathological condition that besets many Eagles fans.

That's really well said.

I’m dead lol 

 

He's a question to debate...

Miles Sanders goes to the pro-bowl in 2020 and 2021.  He's not THE consensus best back in the NFL, but he's considered elite.  Maybe a half step behind Mccoy/Westbrook, but not quite that level of playmaker.  He's got 1 year left on his deal and wants to be one of the 3 highest paid RB's in football.  An average team offers a 1st and 2nd round pick.  

Do it?

7 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

He's a question to debate...

Miles Sanders goes to the pro-bowl in 2020 and 2021.  He's not THE consensus best back in the NFL, but he's considered elite.  Maybe a half step behind Mccoy/Westbrook, but not quite that level of playmaker.  He's got 1 year left on his deal and wants to be one of the 3 highest paid RB's in football.  An average team offers a 1st and 2nd round pick.  

Do it?

Won't happen but absolutely. Teams with elite RB rarely win the SB and the Eagles are going to be broke for a while.

13 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

He's a question to debate...

Miles Sanders goes to the pro-bowl in 2020 and 2021.  He's not THE consensus best back in the NFL, but he's considered elite.  Maybe a half step behind Mccoy/Westbrook, but not quite that level of playmaker.  He's got 1 year left on his deal and wants to be one of the 3 highest paid RB's in football.  An average team offers a 1st and 2nd round pick.  

Do it?

Done. Never pay a RB

I don't think I would because like McCaffrey, Miles adds a lot in the passing game too. And I'm just a big fan of keeping the core guys together. That kind of thing is forgotten in team building. They're not just assets and pieces, but people. Chemistry and all that jazz matter.

2 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Done. Never pay a RB

I’m with you on this.

I’m also intrigued that Andy Reid took a running back late in the first round. In theory it actually makes a ton of sense Picking that late in the first round if he’s the best player. You’re going to get the five best years of that kids career on his rookie contract. At the end of the rookie contract and fifth year option you could just franchise tag in the sixth year. After the sixth year you can just let him walk. the odds are his best days are behind him. So his entire contract you’re going to get him cheap besides Franchise year with no real long term commitment after that

Granted he could hold out like Le’Veon Bell. However you can also extend him after year 3 and put all the guaranteed money in years 4,5 (rookie 5th year option), 6 and 7 when the extension kicks And he’s still got upside. Then just cut him after that and not have huge dead money when he starts to decline. To me the fifth year option on a rookie contract on a late first round running back actually benefits the team more than the running back With how RBs are paid and decline when they do. 

5 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Done. Never pay a RB

So you're letting Sanders go in 2-3 years then? I'm not arguing against it necessarily just curious.

12 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Uh....yeah!  Running Backs have a very short shelf life and are not a dime a dozen, but not as valuable as they once were.  No team in the modern NFL would offer a 1st and a 2nd though.  

Didn't Seattle just give up 2 1sts for a safety?

remember the P.T. Barnum quote.

Even talk of trading our best players is a welcome distraction from the rest of the world. 

14 hours ago, UK Eagle said:

It's a buyers market out there.

I'm sure that's how he and his agent comfort themselves enough to sleep at night

6 hours ago, eagle45 said:

He's a question to debate...

Miles Sanders goes to the pro-bowl in 2020 and 2021.  He's not THE consensus best back in the NFL, but he's considered elite.  Maybe a half step behind Mccoy/Westbrook, but not quite that level of playmaker.  He's got 1 year left on his deal and wants to be one of the 3 highest paid RB's in football.  An average team offers a 1st and 2nd round pick.  

Do it?

If he's not as good as McCoy/Westbrook, then it's a no-brainer.
If he's as good as 2004 Westbrook, then the decision is really tough because RBs who can catch passes actually matter. 

10 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Well my first tweet.

12 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I was OK with getting rid of LeSean McCoy with the premise to use the money in other areas of the team. The problem with that was they got pennies on the dollar in a trade and Chip Kelly was dumb as he reinvest the money He saved back into the running back position with Ryan Mathews and DeMarco Murray who were not as good as LeSean McCoy And making nearly the same.  

 I think mccoy is great but i also rather not pay a running back top money when he got traded at 27. To me when running back hits 28 he’s year-to-year on if he’s going to stay consistently great (he made it thru 29 before falling off the cliff). So trading him at 27 wasn’t that much of a stretch to me if you thought he was going to start to decline in a year or two. But you would have to maximize the fact that he was in his peak prime for at least another year maybe two and they didn’t. I’m ok using a 2-3rd round pick on a back i love and keep cycling that way ala miles sanders. However the eagles also continuously didn’t address running back until late 4th round or later until sanders. 
 

desean I’d 100 percent agree with. Could even throw maclin out there with how effective he was in chip’s offense. 

I never was. He was very special here. Had we had anyone but Kelly we would have had a decent enough team to compete for a while

11 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Ertz is the second tier after Kelce/Kittle. I was just curious if the gap from Ertz to Kelce is wide enough to warrant extending a TE whose contract was up when he’s 33 and now until 37. The general opinion seems to be the Chiefs did a good move, and I’m kinda surprised no one is bringing it up.

I would sign a 1 year extension if his play doesn't fall apart.

3 minutes ago, greend said:

I never was. He was very special here. Had we had anyone but Kelly we would have had a decent enough team to compete for a while

Well he had his two best rushing seasons under chip. I was for it under the assumption you’d get better compensation then what Kelly got and i think you could’ve with him in his prime. Additionally using that money to legitimately fix other areas on the team and not re-invest the money you saved back into murray and Mathews. To me once you did that it was just stupid to trade mccoy. Should’ve just kept him at that point. 

6 hours ago, eagle45 said:

He's a question to debate...

Miles Sanders goes to the pro-bowl in 2020 and 2021.  He's not THE consensus best back in the NFL, but he's considered elite.  Maybe a half step behind Mccoy/Westbrook, but not quite that level of playmaker.  He's got 1 year left on his deal and wants to be one of the 3 highest paid RB's in football.  An average team offers a 1st and 2nd round pick.  

Do it?

Not nearly enough info to decide this.

How many TDs did he have in these 2 seasons?  How many were rushing and how many receiving?  How much of the offense did he provide, and was he big on 3rd downs like he was in his rookie season?  Is he a leader in the locker room?  Also, whats his injury situation over these 32 games?  Did he miss more than 25%?  Any major injuries, or repeated injuries that would indicate a pattern of decline?

Other factors.... are there any key FA RB's the Eagles can add at this time and maintain the production Sanders gave us?  Is the cap still in such a state that we have to continue to skimp on RB?  Or is a RB who can potentially do the things he excells in more valuable to offenses than they were 2 years prior?

Anyone catch Hard Knocks first episode?  I have it on dvr, ready to watch sometime today.

7 hours ago, eagle45 said:

He's a question to debate...

Miles Sanders goes to the pro-bowl in 2020 and 2021.  He's not THE consensus best back in the NFL, but he's considered elite.  Maybe a half step behind Mccoy/Westbrook, but not quite that level of playmaker.  He's got 1 year left on his deal and wants to be one of the 3 highest paid RB's in football.  An average team offers a 1st and 2nd round pick.  

Do it?

I brought the Miles Sanders situation a while back but not quite like your proposal.  I just asked if Miles Sanders continues to improve and becomes a top back, do the Eagles pay him or do we only have 3 more years of him.  He will be 26 and in his prime.  We all know running backs hit a wall.  It's going to be quite the dilemma for sure.  Now if someone offers you a 1st and a 2nd I think that's a no brainer.

extending an RB with big money will always be very very risky

51 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Who?  Ertz or Sanders?   Cause neither of them is our best player.   

Players... plural. Learn to read you old fart 

Ertz and Sanders are the two best offensive skill position players. You wanna trade Ertz and E45 is talking about trading Sanders 3 years from now. But it’s a welcome distraction from politics and the Asian pandemic 

12 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Players... plural. Learn to read you old fart 

Ertz and Sanders are the two best offensive skill position players. You wanna trade Ertz and E45 is talking about trading Sanders 3 years from now. But it’s a welcome distraction from politics and the Asian pandemic 

Well to be fair, Goedert should be close to Ertz 2017 level (if not we need to start asking if Dallas is as good as we think he is) and we won a SB without a Sanders’ level RB.

Besides, I don’t know how long we want to remain a 12 personnel offense so we’re going to have to deal with the TE position at some point over the next year anyway.