1 hour ago, hputenis said:

T.O. broke his leg right before the playoffs.

He came back for the SB but wasnt anywhere near 100%.

If he didnt get hurt, its POSSIBLE that the Eagles win SB 39 and have 2 Lombardi's instead of 1.

Wentz tore his ACL but they ended up winning the SB anyway.  So how was Wentz getting hurt a bigger loss than T.O. getting hurt?

Wentz getting hurt didnt cost them a SB but T.O.'s injury might have.  

Am I missing something?  Did I misread the question? 

I absolutely hate feeding trolls, but my math curiosity got the better of me. 

In Eagles games where Carson Wentz started, including the postseason, the Eagles are 11-18 against teams which finished above .500. They were also 4-2 against teams that finished at precisely .500.

The 29 games against winning teams were against teams that had an average of 10.4 wins. Which means a record of 10.4-5.6. This calculates to a winning percentage of about 65%. This means that a random team playing against those teams should be expected to win about 35% of the time. But under Wentz, the Eagles 11-19 mark computes to about 38%. 

So, Wentz has performed above the expected average, if you only consider "W-L" record as a measure of performance. Yes, 38% is better than 35%.

If you also include the games against teams that finished precisely at 8-8, the Eagles record would be 15-20. Those teams average record was 10.0-6.0, which computes to about 63%. This means that a random teams' expected result would be about 37% (or 38%). But 15-20 calc's to about 43%. Again, this is above the expected value. Yes, 43% is better than 37 or 38%.

So yeah, if you only look at W-L and try to use a losing record as some sort of gotcha argument, you're an idiot if you don't look at it more closely than that.

8 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

T.O. broke his leg right before the playoffs.

He came back for the SB but wasnt anywhere near 100%.

If he didnt get hurt, its POSSIBLE that the Eagles win SB 39 and have 2 Lombardi's instead of 1.

Wentz tore his ACL but they ended up winning the SB anyway.  So how was Wentz getting hurt a bigger loss than T.O. getting hurt?

Wentz getting hurt didnt cost them a SB but T.O.'s injury might have.  

Am I missing something?  Did I misread the question? 

Yes, you did. The question was, at the moment of the injury, which one felt more devastating.

1 minute ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Yes, you did. The question was, at the moment of the injury, which one felt more devastating.

Thank you for clearing that up.

13 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

T.O. broke his leg right before the playoffs.

He came back for the SB but wasnt anywhere near 100%.

If he didnt get hurt, its POSSIBLE that the Eagles win SB 39 and have 2 Lombardi's instead of 1.

Wentz tore his ACL but they ended up winning the SB anyway.  So how was Wentz getting hurt a bigger loss than T.O. getting hurt?

Wentz getting hurt didnt cost them a SB but T.O.'s injury might have.  

Am I missing something?  Did I misread the question? 

You aren't supposed to be using hindsight 

 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

You aren't supposed to be using hindsight 

I tried....

5 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I absolutely hate feeding trolls, but my math curiosity got the better of me. 

In Eagles games where Carson Wentz started, including the postseason, the Eagles are 11-18 against teams which finished above .500. They were also 4-2 against teams that finished at precisely .500.

The 29 games against winning teams were against teams that had an average of 10.4 wins. Which means a record of 10.4-5.6. This calculates to a winning percentage of about 65%. This means that a random team playing against those teams should be expected to win about 35% of the time. But under Wentz, the Eagles 11-19 mark computes to about 38%. 

So, Wentz has performed above the expected average, if you only consider "W-L" record as a measure of performance. Yes, 38% is better than 35%.

If you also include the games against teams that finished precisely at 8-8, the Eagles record would be 15-20. Those teams average record was 10.0-6.0, which computes to about 63%. This means that a random teams' expected result would be about 37% (or 38%). But 15-20 calc's to about 43%. Again, this is above the expected value. Yes, 43% is better than 37 or 38%.

So yeah, if you only look at W-L and try to use a losing record as some sort of gotcha argument, you're an idiot if you don't look at it more closely than that.

This time around I'm reporting him every time he trolls until he gets banned again. I put up with it far too long on the old boards.

Interesting odds for 2020 OROY — I think Reagor has a real shot because of how he could fit into the Eagles offense and supply the much-needed speed dimension.  Not that it should factor in, but I differ with some in that I would definitely slot Reagor in as the primary PR.  
 

Burrow is the current betting favorite.  The QBs should almost be a different category; I really disagreed with Kyler Murray winning it last season.

 

I’ll be honest. I much rather talk about the Bucs than politics. 
 

When we get rolling again and there’s more Eagles content to discuss then that’ll be a different story. 

55 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

Manu I enjoy talking football with you,hopefully we can pick this up at another time.....I cant deal with the hurt feelings. 

You don't have discussions. You are here as a troll which is disappointing because you can discuss football.  You choose not to and are simply here to antagonize others.   I mean posting Wentz's win loss record against winning teams and saying he's not a top 15 qb isn't a point of discussion.   Posting Tampa's roster with the comment who disagrees these receivers are the best isn't engaging.   

 

1 hour ago, Original Sin said:

Who was brady throwing to?

When brady was asked to throw 30 df ,did it go 30 df?

 

Seriously now internet utebird knows more then a nfl team of coaches, who dropped 50 million for 2 years? Seriously?

Come on now, you really going the, your point is irrelevant because your not an nfl coach route?

These guys that dropped 50 mil on brady how do they know he can throw a deep ball consistently in an NFL game.

What recent tape or game would suggest that. Certainly not last year as his paltry 5.6 yrds/ pass wouldnt suggest.

Like i said Arians is talking out his A, he hasnt had brady in a practice yet and even if he did Arians isnt going to come out and say , you know Tom just cant throw the deep ball anymore, i know my offense is a deep ball offense but were gonna have to dink and dunk all day.

Having said that i think brady is perfectly capable of throwing the deep ball, in NE he didnt really have any deep ball reveivers and seems that NE offense under bill and tom has always been dink and dunk other than when moss was there Evan while not as fast as moss, who is?is a lot like moss in that one can just toss the ball up and let him go get it, he does qbs a lot of favors. 

Having said that Arians answer isnt definitive since he like internet Utebird has nothing to go on.

1 minute ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Neither.  I don't mind talking about any other teams.  But you'll see.  The guy is unremitting.  

He's not even that good at it. 

 

How do you ignore on mobile? Asking for a friend...

I don't mind him 🤷‍♂️

5 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Another player that wants a trade but is too expensive for teams to get

5 hours ago, RLC said:

What's worse? That your best player said this or that Adam Gase is your HC?

I forgot Gase was the HC. Amazing that teams are hiring him. It was very obvious it was Peyton running the offense

4 hours ago, DeathByEagle said:

I love Adams as a player. I was all in for him. I know its the Jets but the way he has been acting lately has changed my mind on wanting him. Bashing the team publicly weekly now.  If hes acting like this cause he wants out now, he will do it to any team he goes to when things don't go his way. Great player, skills and leadership on the field, but poor character. Yannick from Jax took a differnet stand. Posting "Gid is good", "Good thinks come to those who wait" etc. We know hes unhappy but not bashing every other day. Thats the type of attitude I want on my team. 

Didn't Yannick get into it with the owners son on twitter?

2 hours ago, Original Sin said:

Mahomes

Wilson

Brady 

Brees

Dak

Rodgers

Ryan

Cousins

Jackson

Watson 

Some young ones I personally would take over him ,murray being one 

Brady was showing his age last season. I'm curious what he does with Bucs

Dak sucks without talent

Rodgers isn't as good anymore and they don't want to give him anyone to help. Sucks because he's fun to watch when healthy and has talent around him

Ryan has had a ton of talent but doesn't have a ring. That SB embarrassment will sting his career

Cousins isn't that good

I think we should give Jackson time to see if he lasts

Not sure about Watson either. He's flashed but then looked like trash in playoffs

Can we vote him off the island?

1 minute ago, Westbrook#36 said:

How do you ignore on mobile? Asking for a friend...

The three lines in the upper right corner. Go to account and to ignored users. 

1 hour ago, austinfan said:

What Wentz did down the stretch last year was extraordinary.

He literally had a WR corp composed of practice squad players, while Sanders, Ertz and Goedert helped make up for that to some extent, without a legitimate threat on the outside, safeties could cheat over the middle and against the run - the result are some small windows to throw.

12/1:  Jeffries, Agholor, JAWs, Ward

12/8:  Jeffries (2 throws then out), Perkins, Ward, JAWs, Scott

12/15:  Ward, JAWs, Scott

12/22:  Ward, JAWs, Davis, Perkins, Scott

12/29:  Perkins, Burnett, Ward, Davis, Scott

Ward beat out Hollins in TC. He should have been the number 4/5 WR.  Might not make the team this year although he may also start at slot.  Eagles were lucky they didn’t get Scott snatched before they elevated him.  Burnett played in five games for the Jets the previous year.  Davis was purely a PS player. 

14 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

I’ll be honest. I much rather talk about the Bucs than politics. 
 

When we get rolling again and there’s more Eagles content to discuss then that’ll be a different story. 

He only talks about the Bucs to annoy.

1 hour ago, Original Sin said:

Who was brady throwing to?

When brady was asked to throw 30 df ,did it go 30 df?

 

Seriously now internet utebird knows more then a nfl team of coaches, who dropped 50 million for 2 years? Seriously?

He ranked just ahead of Mitchell Trubisky last season in overall deep ball accuracy last season.  When the ball had to travel more than 30 yards, he ranked between Andy Dalton and Josh Allen.  So he's really kind of bottom of the League at this point in his career with deep passes.  Maybe the problem wasn't the receivers last season in NE.  

3 minutes ago, Westbrook#36 said:

How do you ignore on mobile? Asking for a friend...

Hit the 3 bars in the top right. Click account. Click Ignored Users. Type in name. Check each thing you want to ignore(posts,mentions,messages,signature) then click Add User

1 hour ago, Original Sin said:

7.5 points came at the hands of Winston's short fields 

Look I'll debate all day long, but you have to bring more than yahoo stats

If simple works for you ,run with it

7.5 points at the hands of short fields is still defense giving up points unless they were all FGs which im gonna guess they werent.

You said they were a top 5 defense, in what world? 

Lets subtract those 7.5 points from their total and still theyd only be around 13th in scoring defense not 5th so how do you like yahoo stats now😒

Not great, but at least workable for the Eagles

4 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

He ranked just ahead of Mitchell Trubisky last season in overall deep ball accuracy last season.  When the ball had to travel more than 30 yards, he ranked between Andy Dalton and Josh Allen.  So he's really kind of bottom of the League at this point in his career with deep passes.  Maybe the problem wasn't the receivers last season in NE.  

Was mitch throwing to Evan's godwin oj brate, gronk?

Apples to apples 

 

Let's keep things on the 85 iq level 

4 minutes ago, greend said:

He only talks about the Bucs to annoy.

Yeah but no one is leaving the blog because of him. We lose posters when it keeps turning to politics and when there’s just nothing to discuss. At least we have football related topics. 
 

I’ll love reading posts shitting on Brady and the Bucs.