I really, really like Jalen Hurts. Hated the pick at the time; still wish they wouldn't have used a 2nd on a QB. But Jalen Hurts the player and person seems special.

4 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

I really, really like Jalen Hurts. Hated the pick at the time; still wish they wouldn't have used a 2nd on a QB. But Jalen Hurts the player and person seems special.

Agree.  It's darn near impossible not to like the guy.  I still hate the pick however.  That's all Philly needs is a loveable, exciting back up quarterback.  The minute Wentz looks dinged up, or misses a few plays, or Hurts scores a few RZ TD's you're going to have some guy called WIP and start a cry for Hurts to be the QB.  

Can you imagine if we had preseason games and the 1st team O didn't do a thing but Hurts dominated with the 2s?  Might be a blessing in disguise not to have that option.

20 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Agreed it was a crappy day in sports however the top 2 are nothing to fret over.

Eagles- just being careful with any injury.  He will be fine by the opener.  Gives the rest of the running backs more of a chance to battle it out and show what they have.

Flyers- I'm confident this just lit an extra fire under their butts and they dominate Friday.

Sixers- Did you have any expectations?  This is the best thing to happen to them.  No more fools gold.  Time to get rid of Brett Brown and reimagine what they want Embid/Simmons to be.

Phillies- Like the Sixers, my expectations are pretty low for them.  A loss like that just makes me say yup, here we go again.

 

I agree with you.  Expectations notwithstanding I want all my teams to win every time they play, and when they are playing on the same day I get to hedge, "Phils lost but Flyers won."  

We'll see if Brand realizes his awful mistakes and makes this a relevant NBA team.

1 minute ago, MediterraneanDiet said:

I agree with you.  Expectations notwithstanding I want all my teams to win every time they play, and when they are playing on the same day I get to hedge, "Phils lost but Flyers won."  

We'll see if Brand realizes his awful mistakes and makes this a relevant NBA team.

Yup, I was banking on the Flyers salvaging the day.  Funny how fans think like that.  I can remember back when I was playing football.  You could almost tell when there was going to be a bad weekend.  We would lose Friday, UD would lose Saturday...we would almost go in to the Eagles game knowing they had to win.  Of course there is nothing to it but one of those sports fan mindsets I think we all have.

5 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Based on?   Sure there was a lot of special players in college.  That doesn’t mean it’ll translate to the NFL.  And a few practices in shorts isn’t any indication either.  He might be a great guy. But it remains to be an insanely stupid pick.  The only want anyone can say "see I told you so” is if Wentz’s career ends in the next few years, due to injuries.   That’s a gamble and a waste of a pick that we sorely needed.  

It's not being a "great guy" as much as it is having the charisma to lead a group of men. Sometimes rookies just get out on the field and look the part. Of course we won't know for sure until the real games start.

I acknowledged in the post that I thought the pick was a poor use of resources. And you're right in that Hurts' successes will/would be enabled by Wentz's failures and that's probably not the best thing for the franchise overall.

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Brand is part of the problem.  I wouldn’t expect too many leadership changes in such a short off season.   

Yup, he's failed in every way if you ask me.  Not finding a way to keep Jimmy Butler was a disaster if you ask me.  I know half the battle is the player wanting to be here but I'm sure if they wanted to they could have kept him.  He just has that killer instinct that no one on the Sixers has.  He might be a jerk and an oddball but the guy competes like no other.  This team needs that attitude in the worst way and it starts from the top.  

I honestly don't know where they go.  Mattise Thybulle seems like the only guy worth keeping.  I love Embid I really do.  He captured this city after the whole Trust the Process thing but with his skillset he should be able to carry a team when needed.  He has proven time and time again that he can't.  He shouldn't have to carry a team but you need your stars to be able to do so from time to time.

Unfortunate Ben Simmons got hurt but are we ready for another off-season of the is he taking it serious questions?  Can he shoot and is he willing to shoot?  Is he playing out of position?  

Al Horford and Josh Richardson are adding nothing to this team.

Zhaire Smith are you still on the team?  Shake, Furkan, Mike Scott see ya.  

This team is closer to another complete rebuild than they are a title.  Sad

 

19 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

Agree.  It's darn near impossible not to like the guy.  I still hate the pick however.  That's all Philly needs is a loveable, exciting back up quarterback.  The minute Wentz looks dinged up, or misses a few plays, or Hurts scores a few RZ TD's you're going to have some guy called WIP and start a cry for Hurts to be the QB.  

Can you imagine if we had preseason games and the 1st team O didn't do a thing but Hurts dominated with the 2s?  Might be a blessing in disguise not to have that option.

Agreed. An additional problem I could foresee would be if the Eagles start something like 5-6 again and the players don't feel like they can rally around Carson. I think there might be something to Carson's struggles to connect with Alshon (and other locker room "sources") and bringing in a talented player who is easy to rally around would definitely not help the pressure on Carson. I'm hoping Carson's step up in leadership we've been hearing about is legit and not PR hype.

5 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

Agreed. An additional problem I could foresee would be if the Eagles start something like 5-6 again and the players don't feel like they can rally around Carson. I think there might be something to Carson's struggles to connect with Alshon (and other locker room "sources") and bringing in a talented player who is easy to rally around would definitely not help the pressure on Carson. I'm hoping Carson's step up in leadership we've been hearing about is legit and not PR hype.

Not sure when Carson "stepped down" in leadership. Carson has always led this team from what I can see. Don't fall for the negative press hype.

44 minutes ago, Shocker54 said:

I already got my Jalen Hurt authentic. It next to my Cunningham, McNabb, and Vick jerseys you know. 

You're missing Don McPherson, Vince Young and Jeff Blake.  

Means very little but hey:

 

2 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Means very little but hey:

 

I think by the time it comes to having to make the decision they will go for Hurts. But let's hope that time doesn't come. 

2 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I think by the time it comes to having to make the decision they will go for Hurts. But let's hope that time doesn't come. 

Same.  I like Suds and think he could fill in OK for a half or a game etc.  Don't think he's capable of pulling a Foles though. Not that Hurts necessarily will be either but the ceiling is likely significantly higher.  

Hopefully we never find out.

More coach speak for ya:

 

Live tackling tomorrow... nice

Just now, Damanick10 said:

Live tackling tomorrow... nice

I'm excited and terrified...

2 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

More coach speak for ya:

 

No Hightower? 😞

1 minute ago, WentzFan11 said:

No Hightower? 😞

I think Wolf just had to cut the tweet short:

Kinda early to tell but it sounds as if Hightower has been kinda quiet but has caught a couple of deep bombs which is obviously fun to see.

2 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

I think Wolf just had to cut the tweet short:

Kinda early to tell but it sounds as if Hightower has been kinda quiet but has caught a couple of deep bombs which is obviously fun to see.

I want them both to make the roster. Kill everyone with speed. I need to live my Madden fantasies. 

1 hour ago, John_C said:

Unfortunately, you are likely to hear more "Wentz was off in red zone” and similar stories, while other stories extol the brilliance of Hurts.  

https://www.nfl.com/videos/jeremiah-eagles-have-been-blown-away-by-jalen-hurts

Hedging against your franchise QB in his prime.  Never has worked, never will work, a clinicaly insane position to take.  A total failure to understand how successful teams win consistently, a ridiculous misuse of resources, and a decision that will have profound impacts on the team until the franchise QB moves on to a new home.    

The Giants taking Hostetler with a high pick a few years after taking Simms didn't work? 

The point of drafting both Hightower and Watkins is that it didn't matter which one would hit. It was unlikely both would pan out, but if only one is an "ok" deep threat that's a win that late in the draft.

Also, coaches "loving" Jalen Hurts is the least surprising thing ever. Both Saban and Riley love him. It's why Hurts will have trade value; no coach/GM will dislike him.

3 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

The Giants taking Hostetler with a high pick a few years after taking Simms didn't work? 

49ers trading for Steve Young with Joe Cool still being Joe Cool.

2 minutes ago, RLC said:

The points of drafting both Hightower and Watkins is that it didn't matter which one would hit. It was unlikely both would pan out, but if only one is an "ok" deep threat that's a win that late in the draft.

Also, coaches "loving" Jalen Hurts is the least surprising thing ever. Both Saban and Riley love him. It's why Hurts will have trade value; no coach/GM will dislike him.

Way too early to tell but it also seems as if they're using them differently in practice, so maybe it was more than just double dipping.  But yeah I really liked them nabbing both later on.

26 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Same.  I like Suds and think he could fill in OK for a half or a game etc.  Don't think he's capable of pulling a Foles though. Not that Hurts necessarily will be either but the ceiling is likely significantly higher.  

Hopefully we never find out.

I just think Hurts brings something that we don't have in Suds. He has a skill set that really gives a team the opportunity to create explosive, big plays. 

28 minutes ago, UK_EaglesFan89 said:

I just think Hurts brings something that we don't have in Suds. He has a skill set that really gives a team the opportunity to create explosive, big plays. 

Agreed.  I like his attitude and his skillset a lot and I really didn't mind the pick, but I won't open that can of worms again.

50 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Same.  I like Suds and think he could fill in OK for a half or a game etc.  Don't think he's capable of pulling a Foles though. Not that Hurts necessarily will be either but the ceiling is likely significantly higher.  

Hopefully we never find out.

Don’t tell Morris that if he ever shows up here. He was convinced Suds could have done what Foles did because, and I sheet you not, he played better than Foles did in that meaningless Dallas game to close out the regular season.