1 hour ago, Diehardfan said:

Glad Driscoll looks good, but I can't see any way they cut Mailata...especially in a year when Covid could take out a few OL at once. Yeah, he gets hurt and maybe he isn't an all star, but he looked decent in the past. I just can't see how they cut him this year.

I don't even think they're battling for the same roster spot. I think Driscoll is being looked at as a versatile, play-anywhere-along-the-line guy whereas Mailata is strictly a tackle. 

If anything, I would say Mailata is battling more against Wanogho.

For what it's worth, I came away after watching post-draft video highlights of both Auburn tackles thinking that Driscoll was going to be good but was disappointed with Prince Tega. We'll see.

This is where not having preseason games really sucks. We can't make any kind of proper evaluations on the players on the back end of the roster so we really have no inkling of who's doing well and who's not.

24 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

 

C’mon Tim, there is no way DJax had on the burners on that play. I want to see NRC breaking up passes on TEs. He is only 5’8” and 180. That is what worries me with him. 

5 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Wrong idiot.  

Ahhh whoops.  I've mixed those morons up in the past too.  

9 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Baseball Football is 90 percent mental. The other half is physical.

And they say linemen take too many hits to the head.

4 minutes ago, John_C said:

This is not even close as a valid comparison.  Yes, Phil Simms was picked 7th overall in 1979, and Hostetler was a 3rd round pick in 1983, but Simms first several years were inconsistent at best and he suffered through several injuries.  Simms missed 1982, was benched by Parcells in 1983 and asked to be traded.  When he got another opportunity he was promptly hurt again.  He was hardly an established franchise QB by any means, and hedging against what he was would have made sense even if the Giants took someone else in the first round.

Carson may have had injuries, but he also was on his way to winning the league MVP in the 2017 year, when his team won a championship.  He signed a massive contract to be the franchise QB, and went out and led the team to the playoffs with the 32nd best WR group in the entire league.  Then the team went out and took a high profile QB in round 2.

In the modern, new CBA era, hedging against your franchise QB is an indefensible, insane position that will bring about a myriad of issues.  

Trading for a guy to specifically be a backup.  Not drafting a high profile prospect in round 2.  Steve Young wasn't wanted by Tampa Bay.

One of which was a Super Bowl win.

Here is a defensible, sane counter-argument to yours. https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2019/10/25/20931065/backup-quarterback-value-teddy-bridgewater-matt-moore

8 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

The thing with Tega (his name isn’t Prince, he really is a Nigerian Prince) is probably his health. Don’t get me wrong, he is raw and has some faults but not as raw as Mailata who last year seemed to hit a plateau.  I like Tega’s feet. His pass rush anchor needs work (so does Driscoll’s) and he drops his hands too much but if anyone can teach punch, it is Stout and player/coach Jason Peters (best punch in football, well maybe Ogden could have challenged that).  

I also view it this way. If Driscoll wins the swing tackle spot. You also have peters if dillard goes down and Driscoll fails. And move pryor into that RG spot. Also Matt Pryor whos played tackle and guard before to step in. You have plenty of guys that can be the 4th tackle who also have positional versatility as well. Add on Tega if he’s healthy imo is likely as capable as mailata as mailata has only played limited snaps in preseason and tega has played his whole life and at an Sec school. Frankly i think has a ton of upside if he is healthy. And both have health concerns as mailata has had back issues 

18 minutes ago, greend said:

The trouble is there is no asterisk. 

Not to Eagles fans. 

3 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

C’mon Tim, there is no way DJax had on the burners on that play. I want to see NRC breaking up passes on TEs. He is only 5’8” and 180. That is what worries me with him. 

Looks like half speed

 

13 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Baseball Football is 90 percent mental. The other half is physical.

Yogi. About the only thing I ever truly loved about baseball was his quotes. 

So it sounds like so far, based on camp reports, 7 out of the 10 drafted rookies are absolute studs, including all 3 receivers.  Not a lot of news on Prince, Toohill, or Davion Taylor. 

JJAW and Dillard both came to the realization that they needed the gym (for opposite reasons) to succeed in the NFL.  Gotta love the PAC-12.  

Despite a good camp last year, Sidney Jones is getting roasted by the 2nd team, and now he's hurt again.  Bye Sid.  Nice knowin ya.  

 

2 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Aren't you glad I left out the comma?

So SB or no SB?  

No SB. Can't catch contested passes, can't separate, plodding, etc.

2 minutes ago, hputenis said:

So it sounds like so far, based on camp reports, 7 out of the 10 drafted rookies are absolute studs, including all 3 receivers.  Not a lot of news on Prince, Toohill, or Davion Taylor. 

JJAW and Dillard both came to the realization that they needed the gym (for opposite reasons) to succeed in the NFL.  Gotta love the PAC-12.  

Despite a good camp last year, Sidney Jones is getting roasted by the 2nd team, and now he's hurt again.  Bye Sid.  Nice knowin ya.  

 

No more people complaining about JJAW's body and comparing him to DK

 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Looks like half speed

 

I think Wentz is throwing to a spot.  It didn't look like he was throwing a go route.  

4 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Yogi. About the only thing I ever truly loved about baseball was his quotes. 

Glad someone recognized the source.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

No more people complaining about JJAW's body and comparing him to DK

 

7 minutes ago, hputenis said:

So it sounds like so far, based on camp reports, 7 out of the 10 drafted rookies are absolute studs, including all 3 receivers.  Not a lot of news on Prince, Toohill, or Davion Taylor. 

JJAW and Dillard both came to the realization that they needed the gym (for opposite reasons) to succeed in the NFL.  Gotta love the PAC-12.  

Despite a good camp last year, Sidney Jones is getting roasted by the 2nd team, and now he's hurt again.  Bye Sid.  Nice knowin ya.  

 

Don’t know why people thought this was going to change. He had some plays down the stretch but solak and kist did an excellent job in some of their podcasts illustrating he was also super fortunate on a lot of plays teams didn’t attack him more. I had high hopes for jones when we drafted him but he is what he is. Frankly if we’re making bold predictions I believe if Will parks or Wallace proves they can play the safety position along side mcleod that they will not hesitate to move Jalen mills back to corner if maddox struggles

also pointing out while the pac 12 has its issues they eagles hit big on DeSean, ertz, seumalo and even foles all pac 12 guys. Potentially dillard if he pans out. Agholor, Jones and JJAW hurt them obviously. I’d say Rowe but he got one year and they booted him due to it being a chip pick but he is still in the league. 

19 minutes ago, John_C said:

In the modern, new CBA era, hedging against your franchise QB is an indefensible, insane position that will bring about a myriad of issues

I feel like this portion needs elaboration — I don’t see the pick as hedging against Wentz; rather bringing in a viable #2 QB that is an upgrade over what the Eagles had, at a manageable cost given the team’s current cap situation.  I also think he has a higher upside than Flacco or McCown would have.

 

10 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I don't even think they're battling for the same roster spot. I think Driscoll is being looked at as a versatile, play-anywhere-along-the-line guy whereas Mailata is strictly a tackle. 

If anything, I would say Mailata is battling more against Wanogho.

For what it's worth, I came away after watching post-draft video highlights of both Auburn tackles thinking that Driscoll was going to be good but was disappointed with Prince Tega. We'll see.

This is where not having preseason games really sucks. We can't make any kind of proper evaluations on the players on the back end of the roster so we really have no inkling of who's doing well and who's not.

Tega and Mailata may be battling for backup LT. Roster spot for either will be determined by the health of Tega’s knee and which of the two might make it to the PS.  Right now the locks are probably Pryor, Driscoll and Herbig after the starters.  One more of Mailata and Tega because I doubt they go one T as a back up. If they go ten, the likely battle is between Juriga and Opeta, both of whom are likely PS material. The wrinkle this year is to get the 48th active player, the 47th needs to be an OL.  I think the actives are Driscoll, Pryor and likely Herbig.  For a phone booth guy, Herbig has decent feet. 

30 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I could give a crap less about preseason football Two and a year ago. you’re trying to tell me because he looked somewhat capable for a guy who’s never played the game before coming to the eagles in the preseason against starters who are just trying to get through it without getting hurt. That I should take that as he’s somewhat capable.  Meanwhile in training camp he’s getting beat by guys who are third and fourth string defensive ends on the eagles like ostman. Yeah don’t buy that argument. So you’re willing to buy in to the preseason but in training camp when he’s struggling against Joe ostman we ignore that factor  

I never said they are going to cut them. I said I could see them cutting him if they believe Driscoll is better. As well as they believe Matt Pryor or Jason peters if Driscoll doesn’t work out they can just push them into that role and not even have to use mailata who would be having a roster spot yet again who they don’t want to play cause he’s not Even somewhat capable Yet Im their eyes as he still wouldn’t be the top backup to a rookie who hasn’t had all the things given to him as a normal rookie would  

We are still talking about it because you’re trying to convince me because of the preseason last year (A whole year ago) which has absolutely a completely different vibe than regular season football that he is somewhat capable. Meanwhile he’s never taken a regular season snap at LT or tackle in his life. And starters in the preseason are trying to just get out of the preseason without injury. And limited snaps and just working on their craft not playing it like a regular season game. If Driscoll beat him out it tells me that mailata is not somewhat capable. Because if he was somewhat capable the Eagles would want him to be there swing tackle. Not the backup to a rookie who came into the league at a disadvantage. That would speak volumes to me.

We usually agree, but you seem hooked on this one and I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm staying my opinion that I think they should/will keep 4 OT. You have stated yours. We don't agree there which is fine. You said that it isn't likely they cut him. We agree on that.

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Don’t know why people thought this was going to change. He had some plays down the stretch but solak and kist did an excellent job in some of their podcasts illustrating he was also super fortunate on a lot of plays teams didn’t attack him more. I had high hopes for jones when we drafted him but he is what he is. Frankly if we’re making bold predictions I believe if Will parks or Wallace proves they can play the safety position along side mcleod that they will not hesitate to move Jalen mills back to corner if maddox struggles

also pointing out while the pac 12 has its issues they eagles hit big on DeSean, ertz, seumalo and even foles all pac 12 guys. 

I heard some reports in the offseason that he was up to 145 on the squat rack.  If that didn't sell you on him, I don't know what would.  

7 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Don’t know why people thought this was going to change. He had some plays down the stretch but solak and kist did an excellent job in some of their podcasts illustrating he was also super fortunate on a lot of plays teams didn’t attack him more. I had high hopes for jones when we drafted him but he is what he is. Frankly if we’re making bold predictions I believe if Will parks or Wallace proves they can play the safety position along side mcleod that they will not hesitate to move Jalen mills back to corner if maddox struggles

also pointing out while the pac 12 has its issues they eagles hit big on DeSean, ertz, seumalo and even foles all pac 12 guys. 

Blind optimism that one of our crappy higher draft picks will actually pan out

1 minute ago, hputenis said:

I heard some reports in the offseason that he was up to 145 on the squat rack.  If that didn't sell you on him, I don't know what would.  

Honestly I wish we still had access to the old board. Because i looked up each conference for like 10 year period and seeing the hit, bust, starter and backup roles in each conference. Obviously SEC was one and big 10 was 2. But 3-5 was close. I believe if i remember correctly pac 12 was 4th. I wish iggle phan was here cause we were the two discussing it the most. 

So in addition to the X and Z, Reagor has gotten some slot snaps. 

Whew. We should be so much more fun to watch this year. 

26 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

I don't even think they're battling for the same roster spot. I think Driscoll is being looked at as a versatile, play-anywhere-along-the-line guy whereas Mailata is strictly a tackle. 

If anything, I would say Mailata is battling more against Wanogho.

For what it's worth, I came away after watching post-draft video highlights of both Auburn tackles thinking that Driscoll was going to be good but was disappointed with Prince Tega. We'll see.

This is where not having preseason games really sucks. We can't make any kind of proper evaluations on the players on the back end of the roster so we really have no inkling of who's doing well and who's not.

If we’re being completely honest, I think of Dillard goes down Or covid they’re just going to move Jason peters back to left tackle and play pryor at right guard. And whoever is the swing tackle is going to stay in that position.