1 minute ago, goeagles5039 said:

What a performance he just had!

He is unstoppable.  Sucks he plays for Dallas but still.

I like Lebron but at this point I'm sick of him.  Feels like hes been playing for 30 years.  When he wins, it's how great he is.  When he loses, it's always he needs more help.  Just sick of it.  

10 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Luka is a bad man!!!

Soon as Lebron retires this dude will be the face of the NBA.

He's incredible. He made Montrezl Harrell look like a moron after what he called him the other day. 

2 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

He's incredible. He made Montrezl Harrell look like a moron after what he called him the other day. 

Clippers are supposed to be an elite defensive team and Luka makes it look easy.  He was scoring on Kawhi too.

What did he call him?

17 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Luka is a bad man!!!

Soon as Lebron retires this dude will be the face of the NBA.

If they somehow Are able to add another star that team is going to be ridiculous because they were able to swindle the Knicks for Porzingis and luka is a superstar. Even if they don’t and add some quality pieces around him they should be a top 3 team in the west for years. 

Reading articles and listening to podcasts....JJaw getting some love!  It would be so nice for him to work out.

2 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

They somehow able to add another star that team is going to be ridiculous because they were able to swindle the Knicks for Porzingis and luka is a superstar. Even if they don’t and add some quality pieces around him they should be a top 3 team in the west for years. 

I dont think they even need another star as long as Porzingis stays healthy.  Just add quality role players, shooters, defenders around those 2.

1 minute ago, Shocker54 said:

He aiite. 

Whys that?  Because he's white?

(Just playin) 😉

5 hours ago, justrelax said:

Not with that model, but I can say with certainty that they have legendarily bad electronics. I have two friends who bought the A6 and couldn’t wait to get rid of it.

Recent models? 

2 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

I dont think they even need another star as long as Porzingis stays healthy.  Just add quality role players, shooters, defenders around those 2.

Don’t have to but they have the money since Luka is on a rookie contract And Dallas since they play in Texas no state tax and it’s much easier to get players to go to Dallas with Mark Cuban as the owner

12 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

I dont think they even need another star as long as Porzingis stays healthy.  Just add quality role players, shooters, defenders around those 2.

Agreed.

20/20 hindsight 6ers became obsessed with adding a 3rd star and it cost them everything to the point of now seeing how badly theyve regressed. 

Article I read and posted in the 6ers thread the other day laid out what the team would look like today had the team made 0 trades or free agent signings since 2017. And.. man it looked good.

In addition to the names it listed, we would have had 2 of our own first round picks and cap space. And realistically not made 0 free agent signings but maybe signed the right kind of complimentary players rather than going for "Stars"

Mavs have enough IF you can count on Porzingis's health. Just have to fill out the team around them properly.

 

 

 

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Agreed.

20/20 hindsight 6ers became obsessed with adding a 3rd star and it cost them everything to the point of now seeing how badly theyve regressed. 

Article I read and posted in the 6ers thread the other day laid out what the team would look like today had the team made 0 trades or free agent signings since 2017. And.. man it looked good.

In addition to the names it listed, we would have had 2 of our own first round picks and cap space. And realistically not made 0 free agent signings but maybe signed the right kind of complimentary players rather than going for "Stars"

Mavs have enough IF you can count on Porzingis's health. Just have to fill out the team around them properly.

 

 

 

The difference between the Sixers and Dallas is, I think getting a free agent Star to Dallas is much easier than it is getting one to philly. First your owner is Mark Cuban who not only is a good owner but also can set you up outside of basketball to do some endeavors that you want to do. Second you have no state sales tax which is huge for NBA players. Third you have Luka and I get the feeling a lot of players are going to want to play with him. They don’t need to go get a star if they properly fill it out but I’m betting there’s going to be stars that want to play there. The Sixers have crappy ownership, bad coaching and philly has state tax whereas Dallas doesn’t and has luka

Jazz fan here ,so far so good.

28 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Clippers are supposed to be an elite defensive team and Luka makes it look easy.  He was scoring on Kawhi too.

What did he call him?

 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The difference between the Sixers and Dallas is, I think getting a free agent Star to Dallas is much easier than it is getting one to philly. First your owner is Mark Cuban who not only is a good owner but also can set you up outside of basketball to do some endeavors that you want to do. Second you have no state sales tax which is huge for NBA players. Third you have Luka and I get the feeling a lot of players are going to want to play with him. They don’t need to go get a star if they properly fill it out but I’m betting there’s going to be stars that want to play there

also, Luka is already a bonafide star which is big.

For a while Simmons and Embiid were seen as up and coming stars and vets werent ready to come here while they grew. Unfortunately, they both still have a ton of growing to do and may never really deserve the elite star status like Luka will, or pretty much already does.

 

Read in another article days ago you look at games like Lillard had, and even Donovan Mitchell had and you just dont feel like Simmons or Embiid could ever carry a team like that.

I think Embiid was close to that level in this series. Just that the team is so poor around him it didnt make a difference. But even still.... he wasnt quite there either. 

Luka already is that guy. And we just dont have it.

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

also, Luka is already a bonafide star which is big.

For a while Simmons and Embiid were seen as up and coming stars and vets werent ready to come here while they grew. Unfortunately, they both still have a ton of growing to do and may never really deserve the elite star status like Luka will, or pretty much already does.

 

Read in another article days ago you look at games like Lillard had, and even Donovan Mitchell had and you just dont feel like Simmons or Embiid could ever carry a team like that.

I think Embiid was close to that level in this series. Just that the team is so poor around him it didnt make a difference. But even still.... he wasnt quite there either. 

Luka already is that guy. And we just dont have it.

Simmons refusing to shoot in a 2020 NBA is basically like him playing with one arm tied behind his back. 

3 hours ago, ManuManu said:

Age. Miller was 22 when he was drafted and turned pro as a junior (theoretical upside). Toohill just turned 24 and wasn’t all that good at Stanford. 

I agree age is important for draft evaluation, and Toohill and Miller's numbers the year before being drafted were very similar. However, Toohill is the superior athlete in almost every category (in some cases shockingly so -- 10 inch advantage in the vertical jump). Sorry, that indicates way more upside to me than a sloppy-bodied, average athlete 22-year-old.

14 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

also, Luka is already a bonafide star which is big.

For a while Simmons and Embiid were seen as up and coming stars and vets werent ready to come here while they grew. Unfortunately, they both still have a ton of growing to do and may never really deserve the elite star status like Luka will, or pretty much already does.

 

Read in another article days ago you look at games like Lillard had, and even Donovan Mitchell had and you just dont feel like Simmons or Embiid could ever carry a team like that.

I think Embiid was close to that level in this series. Just that the team is so poor around him it didnt make a difference. But even still.... he wasnt quite there either. 

Luka already is that guy. And we just dont have it.

 Lillard is 31 years old. He’s had a lot of experience to get to that point and he’s a guard in a guard/wing driven league. Embiid needs good guard play in order to dominate. Lillard can control it because he is the guy running the show 

I do think Joel Embiid with his 30 and 13 in the series did the best he could. I can’t blame him for the trash that’s been put around him for this series. Frankly if they had better pg and shooters around him I think his numbers Would have been better. Spacing matters so much with a big man that can do what Joel does. 

Ben Simmons has to be like Luka and Mitchell.  Embiid is never going to be able to do what they do because he’s a center and not a guard/wing. The NBA is not built to thrive with a center anymore. It’s the same reason why Anthony Davis had the issues he had in New Orleans. He would put up great numbers but always flame out early. He had Jrue but AD wasn’t able to do what Luka and Mitchell have this year outside of a couple games. By that I don’t mean to put up great numbers but elevate everyone else around them with putting up great numbers. Because he’s not a guard   Unless they trade Ben Simmons and get a star or Ben Simmons miraculously takes the jump to start shooting the ball and elevating his game I’m not so sure embiid is able to carry you more than that. He could’ve gone 40 and 20 and it likely wouldn’t have been enough to win that series. 

10 minutes ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

 

Hmmm.....wonder what would happen if Luka called him a b**ch a** black boy.

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

 Lillard is 31 years old. He’s had a lot of experience to get to that point and he’s a guard in a guard/wing driven league. Embiid needs good guard play in order to dominate. Lillard can control it because he is the guy running the show 

I do think Joel Embiid with his 30 and 13 in the series did the best he could. I can’t blame him for the trash that’s been put around him for this series. Frankly if they had better pg and shooters around him I think his numbers Would have been better. Spacing matters so much with a big man they could do what Joel does. 

Ben Simmons has to be like Luka and Mitchell.  Embiid is never going to be able to do what they do because he’s a center and not a guard. It’s the same reason kind of Anthony Davis had the issues he had in New Orleans. He would put up great numbers but always flame out early. He had Jrue but AD wasn’t able to do what Luka and Mitchell have this year outside of a outlet games. Unless they trade Ben Simmons and get a star or Ben Simmons miraculously takes the jump to start shooting the ball and elevating his game I’m not so sure embiid is able to carry you more than that. He could’ve gone 40 and 20 and it likely wouldn’t have been enough to win that series. 

This is why I dont mind trading Embiid for perimeter talent and just replacing him at center with some much cheaper, athletic, rim running, rim protecting center who can keep up with todays NBA game.

Not a knock against his performance in this series that will always go underrated and is probably already forgotten because it lead us nowhere. But you just dont need a guy like him. Itd be better to redistribute the talent to other areas on the court. 

Yes, I still want to trade Ben first. But Ive said I dont mind trading both. And thats why. Also, that you really cant count on his health in any given year. So building around him is sure to bite you. Most likely early and often.

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

This is why I dont mind trading Embiid for perimeter talent and just replacing him at center with some much cheaper, athletic, rim running, rim protecting center who can keep up with todays NBA game.

Not a knock against his performance in this series that will always go underrated and is probably already forgotten because it lead us nowhere. But you just dont need a guy like him. Itd be better to redistribute the talent to other areas on the court. 

Yes, I still want to trade Ben first. But Ive said I dont mind trading both. And thats why. Also, that you really cant count on his health in any given year. So building around him is sure to bite you. Most likely early and often.

There's talk that the Warriors might trade the #2 pick for a proven star.  Might that be Simmons or Embiid?

44 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

I dont think they even need another star as long as Porzingis stays healthy.  Just add quality role players, shooters, defenders around those 2.

Considering porzingis was out most of this game I would say he isn't staying healthy hasn't stayed healthy since his rookie season

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

This is why I dont mind trading Embiid for perimeter talent and just replacing him at center with some much cheaper, athletic, rim running, rim protecting center who can keep up with todays NBA game.

Not a knock against his performance in this series that will always go underrated and is probably already forgotten because it lead us nowhere. But you just dont need a guy like him. Itd be better to redistribute the talent to other areas on the court. 

Yes, I still want to trade Ben first. But Ive said I dont mind trading both. And thats why. Also, that you really cant count on his health in any given year. So building around him is sure to bite you. Most likely early and often.

I’m not against trading either one of them. It would depend on the package. Comes down to you’re gonna have to find a team willing to trade you guard and wings assets knowing that the NBA today is not built around the center. as great as Embiid can be, he is still a center. I think a lot of teams view that as it’s gonna be really hard to win with our best player being a center. To me if he’s a number two guy and you have someone like Steph Curry or harden it makes a ton of sense. Realistically if you traded embiid to Golden State they are likely going to ask you to take on Wiggins contract and get the number 2 pick. Wiggins is not good. And that number 2 pick in this draft is not a great draft. You get balI guess you could start with that it helps. The learning curve for him it’s going to take him two to three years. And I’m not sure he fits in with Ben Simmons so you probably have to deal Simmons.

you probably get more in my opinion for Ben Simmons then you work for embiid. Because  I believe teams think if they have the right coach they can get the Ben Simmons that we’ve been hoping for over the last three years. I also think defensively he can guard one through four and even if those teams can’t get him to shoot they probably construct a roster around him with shooters unlike what we did.

That said if they could get from the bulls markkanen, lavine, no. 4 pick for simmons that was rumored I would do that. I would then try to use four and 21 to move up and get ball. Your defense will suffer but i think you’d have much more spacing and shooting then we have now. I would also try to use Richardson who I’m not gonna extend at the end of this year and Horford to  Get some nice role players for the team we would then have around. I think the only issue with that is if you keep embiid that it might take 2 years to get where you want to get to be and embiid might be declining by then. 

12 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

There's talk that the Warriors might trade the #2 pick for a proven star.  Might that be Simmons or Embiid?

Im not sure they have enough to offer to make me happy in that trade. Im pretty sure they dont actually. This is a sucky draft class at the top so that pick isnt too spectacular. You know they arent trading Steph or Klay. I think probably not.

 

21 minutes ago, 315Eagles said:

Hmmm.....wonder what would happen if Luka called him a b**ch a** black boy.

I don't have an issue with the trash talk. It is what it is in basketball and I'm sure stuff like that is common. But don't parade your players out with "Equality" written on the back of their jerseys and not acknowledge the hypocrisy if it was the other way around. Luka would have been suspended and black-balled from the league. 

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’m not against trading either one of them. It would depend on the package. Comes down to you’re gonna have to find a team willing to trade you guard and wings assets knowing that the NBA today is not built around the center. as great as Embiid can be, he is still a center. I think a lot of teams view that as it’s gonna be really hard to win with our best player being a center. To me if he’s a number two guy and you have someone like Steph Curry or harden it makes a ton of sense. Realistically if you traded embiid to Golden State they are likely going to ask you to take on Wiggins contract and get the number 2 pick. Wiggins is not good. And that number 2 pick in this draft is not a great draft. You get balI guess you could start with that it helps. The learning curve for him it’s going to take him two to three years. And I’m not sure he fits in with Ben Simmons so you probably have to deal Simmons.

you probably get more in my opinion for Ben Simmons then you work for embiid. Because  I believe teams think if they have the right coach they can get the Ben Simmons that we’ve been hoping for over the last three years. I also think defensively he can guard one through four and even if those teams can’t get him to shoot they probably construct a roster around him with shooters unlike what we did.

That said if they could get from the bulls markkanen, lavine, no. 4 pick for simmons that was rumored I would do that. I would then try to use four and 21 to move up and get ball. Your defense will suffer but i think you’d have much more spacing and shooting then we have now. I would also try to use Richardson who I’m not gonna extend at the end of this year and Horford to  Get some nice role players for the team we would then have around. I think the only issue with that is if you keep embiid that it might take 2 years to get where you want to get to be and embiid might be declining by then. 

Yeah I love that bulls deal that was mentioned the other day. Im not sure anyone can even make a better package. I dont remember if that was a legit rumor with legs or just fan speculation. I hope/wish its real. Any competent GM would do it in a heartbeat. Or a competent coach would be banging the table for the GM to do it.