Fun video. Don't like to live in the past but this guy did a pretty good job

7 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Who makes these trades up? I’d do that if I were Philly.

Better question is would you do Lavine for Simmons straight up?

No. Even though Ive been skeptical for like 3 years its clear many people still see great upside in him. 

2 years ago if you offered him, every GM in the NBA would have wide eyes and jaw dropped feeling lucky. These days, a few might have squinty eyes trying to figure out the catch.

But there will still be plenty who are all in thinking they may have the right coach to motivate him to shoot, or design an offense around his skills. And they may be right.

There will be better deals than just LaVine straight up. Heck even as frustrating as simmons is and as nice as LaVine's offense is, advanced stats such as VORP and BPM show Simmons is still the more valuable player. 

 

There is a legit rumor (not just fan speculation but actual reports) of Cleveland interest offering their 5th pick and Sexton or Garland.. and maybe there was something else I dont remember... I dont really like that deal much. But Id even take that over just LaVine straight up. 

 

Im holding out hope for Chicago as a trade partner. Ive messed with them on trade simulators for a long time now. Lots of attractive pieces to mix and match packages with. I do believe that rumor is too good to be true and if we traded with them, it would be something a bit less. I think where it went too far was adding in White. They need to do LaVine and the pick. But the pick, in this draft isnt spectacular. Markkanen has been out of favor there for a while, and hes also not happy there. Hes almost just a throw in at this point.  I think those things added up would be enough for me. White really puts it over the top. A 2nd year PG who can shoot the lights out... they should want to keep him as part of their core of young players to build with.

And Id be ok with that. Id love to have him but trying to keep realistic expectations, Id do the deal without him in it.

9 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I wouldn't, what Simmons offers defensively is more then anything Lavine has to offer on offense. would need definitely need more

LaVine is a young scorer. Agree that Simmons is a much better defender but it’s not like LaVine couldn’t get better at that. His athleticism is off the charts and his shooting has gotten much better. 
Age and salary are comparable going forward. Just throwing it out there.🤷‍♂️
No way Chicago gives up all that other stuff IMO

19 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Why would Phoenix consider it?

Cuz Booker isnt happy and wants out.

1 minute ago, 315Eagles said:

Cuz Booker isnt happy and wants out.

He looked pretty happy and pretty awesome recently. If I’m Philly I couldn’t do this fast enough. 

1 hour ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’d love to get Ingram. He really is a perfect fit for what we need. Frankly i think he’s going to be in a sign and trade somewhere. I would try to package harris and thybulle if possible and take a bad contract back.

I think Thybulle is one piece you need to keep on the team.  

Just now, Casey @ Bat said:

He looked pretty happy and pretty awesome recently. If I’m Philly I couldn’t do this fast enough. 

Right they played great in 8 or 9 games and he was ballin so he's good now.

But if Phoenix blows next year like they usually do, will he still be happy and want to stay?  Or will he ask to be traded?

1 minute ago, Casey @ Bat said:

He looked pretty happy and pretty awesome recently. If I’m Philly I couldn’t do this fast enough. 

hes Boning bens X, kendal. So itd be funny if teams swapped those guys after she did. Next thing you know, Booker will suck at basketball too. 6ers luck.

Booker has been rumored in trade discussions for like 2 years now. I dont know if itll ever happen. But, its not something just made up out of thin air. Theres been some smoke about booker for a while now.

1 hour ago, HazletonEagle said:

Theres a rumored Chicago deal that is spectacular. LaVine, Markkanen, 4th pick, and Coby White for Simmons. If theres any truth to that I hope we have already agreed to it.

Karnisovas seems more like a guy that would rather draft someone high and spend a year or two evaluating his young core rather than swinging for Simmons and hoping it's better than the pieces they already have.

I just can't imagine him being that stupid after landing the new gig and finally firing Jim Boylen, but my Bulls are usually f/cking stupid.

*double checks thread title*

Heh...

2 hours ago, BDawk_ASamuel said:

Ya know, for a while now every time I click on the video for these, the first couple seconds are always so pixelated, I can't tell wth is going on.  And it doesn't save the buffer, so replaying doesn't work.

I don't know if it's Twitter, my browser, the way this board processes these, but EVERY tweet with video it happens.

Anyone else get this?

Just now, Green Dog said:

*double checks thread title*

This literally made me check the thread title.

Just now, 315Eagles said:

Right they played great in 8 or 9 games and he was ballin so he's good now.

But if Phoenix blows next year like they usually do, will he still be happy and want to stay?  Or will he ask to be traded?

Actually he was really good before that. Though you’re right the’ve been terrible. He’s an elite shooter and scorer. Phoenix would be crazy to give him up.

As for the last part couldn’t the same be said about Ben and Philly?

Don’t get me wrong Booker with Embiid in their mid-20’s going forward. Only Elton Brand could screw that up.

4 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I think Thybulle is one piece you need to keep on the team.  

last year people were saying that about Shamet.

They might become really excellent players. But right now theyre nothing more than 3 and D which is a dime a dozen in the NBA these days. Incredibly replaceable. 

I like Thybulle, but theres nothing that hes shown to lead anyone to believe hes going to be something special that we should hold on to. 

If you need to put him in a deal to get something done, fine with me.

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

hes Boning bens X, kendal. So itd be funny if teams swapped those guys after she did. Next thing you know, Booker will suck at basketball too. 6ers luck.

Booker has been rumored in trade discussions for like 2 years now. I dont know if itll ever happen. But, its not something just made up out of thin air. Theres been some smoke about booker for a while now.

Don’t follow the off court dating ish. But that would make it even funnier. My point is if Phoenix trades Booker people are losing jobs.

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

last year people were saying that about Shamet.

They might become really excellent players. But right now theyre nothing more than 3 and D which is a dime a dozen in the NBA these days. Incredibly replaceable. 

I like Thybulle, but theres nothing that hes shown to lead anyone to believe hes going to be something special that we should hold on to. 

If you need to put him in a deal to get something done, fine with me.

Agreed in theory but I have zero confidence in Brand putting together a good deal.

12 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I think Thybulle is one piece you need to keep on the team.  

Would love to keep them. But I think he’s about the only valuable piece/asset yoi have if you want to get someone like a Brandon Ingram

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

last year people were saying that about Shamet.

They might become really excellent players. But right now theyre nothing more than 3 and D which is a dime a dozen in the NBA these days. Incredibly replaceable. 

I like Thybulle, but theres nothing that hes shown to lead anyone to believe hes going to be something special that we should hold on to. 

If you need to put him in a deal to get something done, fine with me.

I hear what you're saying, just feels like every year the Sixers trade half their team.  At some point they need to keep some continuity.  Maybe that's just today's NBA.

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

last year people were saying that about Shamet.

They might become really excellent players. But right now theyre nothing more than 3 and D which is a dime a dozen in the NBA these days. Incredibly replaceable. 

I like Thybulle, but theres nothing that hes shown to lead anyone to believe hes going to be something special that we should hold on to. 

If you need to put him in a deal to get something done, fine with me.

But he had a great bubble Vlog!  I do like him as a number 7-9, same as Shake.  Nice kid, good person, but he can be drated every single year.

7 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

last year people were saying that about Shamet.

They might become really excellent players. But right now theyre nothing more than 3 and D which is a dime a dozen in the NBA these days. Incredibly replaceable. 

I like Thybulle, but theres nothing that hes shown to lead anyone to believe hes going to be something special that we should hold on to. 

If you need to put him in a deal to get something done, fine with me.

Also got a remember thybulle isn’t young in term of nba prospects. he’s already 22 gonna be 23. How much better is he going to get at 22 by the time he gets 25 is a big key. Usually you like younger players because they have more room to develop. He still hasn’t developed an offense of game that is great for the NBA and he was in college for four years. He had 4 1/2 months off and he was still the same offense of player he was before the 4 1/2 months off. That is also concerning

I finally went and looked. The Chicago rumor is just a bleacher report article. No sources or anything legit behind it. Just a writer's imagined proposal. 

7 minutes ago, TEW said:

Agreed in theory but I have zero confidence in Brand putting together a good deal.

yes. Hopefully he is gone with Brett Brown like tomorrow.

3 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

yes. Hopefully he is gone with Brett Brown like tomorrow.

That would be seismic right now. 

In a good way.

4 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

I finally went and looked. The Chicago rumor is just a bleacher report article. No sources or anything legit behind it. Just a writer's imagined proposal. 

yes. Hopefully he is gone with Brett Brown like tomorrow.

I think firing Brown gets him 1 more year.

Hinkie died in vain...

 

7 minutes ago, TEW said:

I think firing Brown gets him 1 more year.

Hinkie died in vain...

 

Theres a lot of stuff out there to make a damning case against the front office.

If for some reason the team is loyal to brand they can at least fire the rest of the colangelo scouting department they retained under him. But I dont know why theyd be that in to Brand. He was only a figurehead anyway. No real GM was going to come in here and pretend to be in charge while using some other horrible GMs sucky scouts. 

Spike Eskin is campaigning hard right now all over twitter and whoever he writes for, to get them all fired.

 

Yesterday an article came out where someone leaked to Pompey that Brett was responsible for breaking up last years team with Butler. You can tell the FO is in big time damage control based on the timing of that article a day before the 6ers were about to be swept. They know theyre in trouble.

I mean.. look at this

 

16 minutes ago, Casey @ Bat said:

Actually he was really good before that. Though you’re right the’ve been terrible. He’s an elite shooter and scorer. Phoenix would be crazy to give him up.

As for the last part couldn’t the same be said about Ben and Philly?

Don’t get me wrong Booker with Embiid in their mid-20’s going forward. Only Elton Brand could screw that up.

Yeah it all depends on how a team does and if the player is happy.  

I'm not sure what Philly will do.  I assume Brown is gone as HC.  Whether they trade Embiid and/or Simmons remains to be seen.  Maybe they can both play together but a new coach is all that's needed.

You don't trade Simmonds or Embiid. Simmons is like the Greek Freak three years ago, he's just scratching the surface of his talent.

You fire sale the trash Brand brought in, take a step backward, and start building real depth. They may have to take some short-term bad contracts to clear out Horford and Harris, and I'd take what I can get for Richardson, who's really a 6th man, not a PG and not a good enough scorer for off guard.

Thybelle and Milton are fine off the bench, asking Milton to guard a top starting NBA PG is mission impossible.

See if Smith has anything, and instead of giving away all those extra picks, use them to draft athletes and develop them.

If they had stuck with Hinkie's plan, they'd be on the verge of a dynasty today.

The current group has no chance, and there's no one they can add who'll make a difference - so blow it up. Take a couple years to build an athletic young group around your two stars, not overpay for second tier talent. As Burks shows, you can always pick up bench depth for cheap.