1 minute ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Outside of Fletcher Cox, who do you think will be the most impactful player on defense this season? 
 

I really want and we need it to be Barnett but I’m guessing McLeod. 

Yes that’s why I said WRs. 

ok

Receptions- Jackson, if healthy

Yards- Reagor 

TDs- I wanna go with a darkhorse here. Quez sounds like a RZ monster similar to how good Maclin was there without being big. But also JJAW is having a good camp and thats his specialty. Since he has a year of experience and higher draft pedigree I think JJAW will get the opportunities in the RZ first and Quez will only gain more if JJAW still sucks. For today, Im gonna go with JJAW on TDs.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Depending if he can heal properly and not play all year injured, Hargrave. I think he's going to be better than a pre-broken back Jernigan.

Jernigan never lived up to the hype. I know the injuries didn't help but was never on that bandwagon

1 minute ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

I really liked the Hargrave signing but ultimately he plays 50-60% of the snaps. 

Yeah but you expect that in 2021 to jump when malik is gone and cox is another year older. 

10 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I mean kind of matters as if the Guy raped a 14 year old girl and if he bailed on the court date he should have been arrested depending on how long ago he bailed. Again it’s not a he did meth or some type of drug crime. He raped and possibly destroyed a 14 year old child’s life and he is out here walking the streets like it’s no big deal. I’m sorry if that were my daughter I’d be pissed the F off 

just saying you should be as disgusted with the cops who shot him as you should at the legal system that allowed a rapist of a 14 year old to be walking the streets putting other women and children at risk. It’s why i asked if it were true. Now i don’t know if they are but if so that should strike you as just as disturbing. 

Frankly it is as disgusting as the cops who shot him. I’m appalled and disgusted by both incidents. the fact there’s a go fund me account for a 1 million dollars for him, i wish someone set up one for the child (if he did) he raped and ruined her life. That to me is just as bad as those cops Shooting him. Anyone should be appalled and disgusted at the handling of both. 

Im not trying to say it doesnt matter in the grand scheme of things of course it does, Rape = bad im saying it wont matter as a point defense for the cops because their actions werent in reaction to his past actions. Cops had no idea who he was or his past. They shot him because they thought he had or was going for a weapon.

Im sure he was trying to bounce because he was well aware of his past but none of that is relevant to the case.

The cops and media though release that stuff to sway public opinion.

Same old pkaybook theyve been trotting out for decades.

Cops have a chip kelly playbook, totally predictable and only 4 plays😒

 

4 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I'm actually leaning towards Mills. I think saftey is going to fit him well. 

This. I think Schwartz is gonna put alot on mills plate each week. 

 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Yeah but you expect that in 2021 to jump when malik is gone and cox is another year older. 

Maybe... I’m really hoping he’s not a guy who got paid and then slacks 

1 minute ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Hargrave is here to be an early down guy. He’s basically Bennie Logan 

 

28 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Get out of here I am not advocating that. I haven't been banned since the first board in 1999 and I am in no way advocating murder. You all him a murder. I call it self defense. You all started this topic in here. Only one side can have an opinion? I don't think so. Many people have watched that video and agree it is self defense. I watched the video. They were hitting him with a skateboard and the guy with the hole in his arm had a gun in it. People who have a different opinion on a hot topic that should have never been posted in here in the first place doesn't make it worthy of a ban because you don't like it.

I don’t give a F what you call it. It’s murder whether you call it that or not. We still live in a world that contains objective facts whether you and your kind find it inconvenient or not. Lying about the timeline doesn’t change that. If this kid was too big a **** to be in that situation without being afraid stay home. The answer is not to put yourself in the situation and then start shooting people. Kids going down for murder and you’re a rotten human being for holding him as some sort of justice warrior. He went to pick a fight and killed two people. That’s murder pal.  At the point you’re talking about he had ALREADY shot someone. Wake up and stop swallowing every load trump drops on you

22 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Which is fine. This is a heated discussion that never should have happened in here. We all fight, but I'm not some freaking heartless a-hole. I'm an a-hole, but this is just how I see it. I think it was self defense. You all think it was murder. We'll see. If I've upset any of you it wasn't my intention and honestly some of what I have said was misinterpreted. I believe strongly in self defense and you all feel strongly with your feelings. I see what I saw in the videos one way. You all disagree and that's fine. Be nice to get back to football.

Spoiler alert- it’s murder. 

2 minutes ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Hargrave is here to be an early down guy. He’s basically Bennie Logan 

Hargrave has more juice then Benny. Hargrave had 4.5 sacks last year and 6.5 the year before playing NT in a 34

Cox had 5.5 last year.

Hes listed at around 305lbs. Hes a better fit in a 43 than a 34 and has some quickness to him.

9 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Zaxby's is all over the place down here.  Their chicken fingers are pretty good.  

 

Anyone heading down 95 through NC.  Jump off and hit this place up.  Best fried chicken I have ever had (except my mom's) get the Mac N Cheese too.  Place is a dump, but incredible food.  

 

https://www.whiteswanbarbeque.com/

Some of my favorites for eastern NC bbq in Raleigh if you haven't been to them yet:

https://oletimebarbecue.com/ - I think the owner has been smoking for 70+ years and sounds like Sam Elliot if Sam Elliot had smoked for 70+ years.

https://www.thepit-raleigh.com/ - the nicest of the 3 and most expensive, but their owner has won some big time BBQ contests.  This warehouse district was nothing but clubs when I lived in Raleigh.

https://clydecoopersbbq.com/ - This is the oldest and probably the most famous right in downtown Raleigh.  

 

Nothing in Charlotte compares to any of these 3, although Mint Hill bbq right next to my house is surprisingly delicious.  

 

10 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I agree with other posters that said when you called the kid who shot two other people " Awesome" and called the killed " thugs" people are going to take notice.

Thugs is a buzzword it can be as incendiary as walking through a riot with an AR 15 or chasing someone with an AR.

Glad to know you arent heartless and youre the second poster to wear being an A hole as a badge of honor, not sure what thats about😳???

Sometimes we know what we are saying in our heads and it comes out wrong. I could have phrased it better. Killing people isn't awesome no matter what. Wasn't what I was saying and if that upset people I'm sorry. You all see it as murder. My view he was a 17-year-old running scared as an armed mob chased him and attacked him. You all will disagree, it's a heated discussion, but I think he handled himself better than most adults would in a combat situation. Even people with some training don't make it out alive. We just see it on different sides and that's fine. Fights happen in the forum. We shake hands and move on.

10 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Jernigan never lived up to the hype. I know the injuries didn't help but was never on that bandwagon

I dont know he played well in 2017 but then hurt his back probably givin bertears momma a piggy back😄

12 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Im not trying to say it doesnt matter in the grand scheme of things im saying it wont matter as a point defense for the cops because their actions werent in reaction to his past actions. Cops had no idea who he was or his past. They shot him because they thought he had or was going for a weapon.

Im sure he was trying to bounce because he was well aware of his past but none of that is relevant to the case.

The cops and media though release that stuff to sway public opinion.

Same old pkaybook theyve been trotting out for decades.

Cops have a chip kelly playbook, totally predictable and only 4 plays😒

 

I agree doesn’t matter in the cops defense.

however if true he purposefully bailed on a court date (I’m guessing cause he knew he’d be convicted otherwise unless he had a medical emergency for missing it and if then I’m guessing he would’ve contacted his lawyer to tell the court) it matters cause if he showed up to his court date he’s likely not walking the streets and endangering other people. That’s another issue 

That’s a huge disturbing and disgusting problem in the legal system. someone’s daughter and child is living in danger with a rapist out there free and nothing was done since he bailed on that court date and they knew where he lived. 

we want justice for Blake Right?. Meanwhile the 14 year old child that he allegedly raped isn’t getting justice because he bailed on his court date and acted like it didn’t matter.

Like when you say sway the public campaign, no we can chew gum and walk at the same time. We can say he deserve justice from what happened with the police. But we can also say that POS should be locked up in prison (if those facts are true) and not getting a million dollars from a go fund me.  

I’m no way saying he deserved to be shot at all. What I’m saying is you can be outraged by two things in this story that are both deeply disturbing. 

7 minutes ago, Allhaildawk said:

I don’t give a F what you call it. It’s murder whether you call it that or not. We still live in a world that contains objective facts whether you and your kind find it inconvenient or not. Lying about the timeline doesn’t change that. If this kid was too big a **** to be in that situation without being afraid stay home. The answer is not to put yourself in the situation and then start shooting people. Kids going down for murder and you’re a rotten human being for holding him as some sort of justice warrior. He went to pick a fight and killed two people. That’s murder pal.  At the point you’re talking about he had ALREADY shot someone. Wake up and stop swallowing every load trump drops on you

Spoiler alert- it’s murder. 

Great. I'm done talking about it. I watched the video and am not lying about anything. We see the events differently. I get your side. You don't get mine and that's fine. I don't see him as a hero. I am impressed and happy that he defended himself and he is the one to make it out of that alive based on what I watched. We will see and can talk when the jury decides. Feel free to @ me. The difference between us is I'm able to separate feelings on this from who they are as people. You can't and wish you the best.  

Back to football now?

14 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

I'm actually leaning towards Mills. I think saftey is going to fit him well. 

Inthink Mills has a high potential to be a liability

1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said:

Inthink Mills has a high potential to be a liability

Good for you

Just now, Diehardfan said:

Sometimes we know what we are saying in our heads and it comes out wrong. I could have phrased it better. Killing people isn't awesome no matter what. Wasn't what I was saying and if that upset people I'm sorry. You all see it as murder. My view he was a 17-year-old running scared as an armed mob chased him and attacked him. You all will disagree, it's a heated discussion, but I think he handled himself better than most adults would in a combat situation. Even people with some training don't make it out alive. We just see it on different sides and that's fine. Fights happen in the forum. We shake hands and move on.

Its all good ive had words come out wrong as not intended as well, it happens in the heat of the moment.

I can see how the defense will push hard for self defense.

Im not sure of all the extenuating laws that go into that in wisconsin.

Thats what courts for. Its just a sad situation all around.

I find that when i get in a tiff in the blog that moving on is better accomolished by saying DALLAS SUCKS!!!😊

6 hours ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

You’re right.  

As usual......

Just now, Utebird said:

Its all good ive had words come out wrong as not intended as well, it happens in the heat of the moment.

I can see how the defense will push hard for self defense.

Im not sure of all the extenuating laws that go into that in wisconsin.

Thats what courts for. Its just a sad situation all around.

I find that when i get in a tiff in the blog that moving on is better accomolished by saying DALLAS SUCKS!!!😊

lol absolutely. I can't think of one person on here I've had ill feelings towards after a disagreement. I'm sure it happened, but can't recall any going back to 1999 or so.

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I agree doesn’t matter in the cops defense.

however if true he purposefully bailed on a court date (I’m guessing cause he knew he’d be convicted otherwise unless he had a medical emergency for missing it and if then I’m guessing he would’ve contacted his lawyer to tell the court) it matters cause if he showed up to his court date he’s likely not walking the streets and endangering other people. That’s another issue 

That’s a huge disturbing and disgusting problem in the legal system. someone’s daughter and child is living in danger with a rapist out there free and nothing was done since he bailed on that court date and they knew where he lived. 

we want justice for Blake Right?. Meanwhile the 14 year old child that he allegedly raped isn’t getting justice because he bailed on his court date and acted like it didn’t matter.

Like when you say sway the public campaign, no we can chew gum and walk at the same time. We can say he deserve justice from what happened with the police. But we can also say that POS should be locked up in prison (if those facts are true) and not getting a million dollars from a go fund me.  

I’m no way saying he deserved to be shot at all. What I’m saying is you can be outraged by two things in this story that are both deeply disturbing. 

Yes i believe equal outrage for two outrageous acts is appropriate!

3 hours ago, TrotterIsGod said:

Yeah that's great. Who's going to make tackles for this team? I don't care if you're purple. Hit somebody 🤩

Can't wait until this stupid year is over. 

Then you can all argue if Duke Riley took him down in a properly sensitive fashion. 

Or whether Darius Slay, Jr took into consideration at practice EVERYTHING about Zach when he jumped the route.  ZZZzzzz Somebody's not got a lot so the Whistle's out full force. 

Pfffff. Boy's going down. Simple as that. 

I identify as purple, and I've hit plenty of people.  I'm offended.  

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I agree doesn’t matter in the cops defense.

however if true he purposefully bailed on a court date (I’m guessing cause he knew he’d be convicted otherwise unless he had a medical emergency for missing it and if then I’m guessing he would’ve contacted his lawyer to tell the court) it matters cause if he showed up to his court date he’s likely not walking the streets and this incident never occurs.

That’s a huge disturbing and disgusting problem in the legal system. someone’s daughter and child is living in danger with a rapist out there free and nothing was done since he bailed on that court date and they knew where he lived. 

we want justice for Blake Right?. Meanwhile the 14 year old child that he allegedly raped isn’t getting justice because he bailed on his court date and acted like it didn’t matter.

Like when you say sway the public campaign, no we can chew gum and walk at the same time. We can say he deserve justice from what happened with the police. But we can also say that POS should be locked up in prison (if those facts are true) and not getting a million dollars from a go fund me.  

 

this is the issue the left driven media creates. 

In this case (I didnt follow the story at all) Ill assume some level of wrong doing of the cops. What I heard was the guy said he had a gun in his car and was going to get it. He was tased first and it didnt work. He leaned in to his car and thats when the cops shot. The question I heard was- Why did it take 7 bullets? Excessive? Im not sure but for the sake of this discussion, sure we will go with that. 

In Floyds case, yeah... wrong doing by the officer/s for sure. 

But the media portrays these guys as angels. Media loved reporting the line where Floyd's daughter said something like "My daddy changed the world" and showing that pic of him with her on his shoulders. Portraying some wonderful family man.

In fact, these guys were horrible, horrible human beings. Though that does not excuse what the officers did in those moments it matters a LOT for a different reason. If the media reports on the part where both resisted arrest, and talks about their criminal history a lot less people are a lot less mad. Its infuriating for this to happen to an innocent person, a hard working, honest man, and wonderful father.  Its not quite so infuriating when it happens to an absolute POS which these guys were. A lot less likely to riot over this. Most of the people protesting and rioting probably have no idea these guys arent who their news channels portrayed them as. 

 

So many more lives have been lost in riots and protests since the Floyd incident. Many of those might have actually been good people. The media has a ton of blood on its hands. Its a huge problem in this country. Thats a massive understatement. I dont have words to describe how frustrating it is. 

21 minutes ago, Utebird said:

I agree with other posters that said when you called the kid who shot two other people " Awesome" and called the killed " thugs" people are going to take notice.

Thugs is a buzzword it can be as incendiary as walking through a riot with an AR 15 or chasing someone with an AR.

Glad to know you arent heartless and youre the second poster to wear being an A hole as a badge of honor, not sure what thats about😳???

He apologized and said he used the wrong words and didn't want to offend anyone.  I don't agree with his view point but, I think he is trying to move on from it so we should too. Let's not keep attacking the guy. 

I'm kind of scared of myself right now playing peace maker lol. 

6 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Great. I'm done talking about it. I watched the video and am not lying about anything. We see the events differently. I get your side. You don't get mine and that's fine. I don't see him as a hero. I am impressed and happy that he defended himself and he is the one to make it out of that alive based on what I watched. We will see and can talk when the jury decides. Feel free to @ me. The difference between us is I'm able to separate feelings on this from who they are as people. You can't and wish you the best.  

Back to football now?

There’s literally a video of him running away from the first victim on the phone saying "I just killed somebody”.

8 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Sometimes we know what we are saying in our heads and it comes out wrong. I could have phrased it better. Killing people isn't awesome no matter what. Wasn't what I was saying and if that upset people I'm sorry. You all see it as murder. My view he was a 17-year-old running scared as an armed mob chased him and attacked him. You all will disagree, it's a heated discussion, but I think he handled himself better than most adults would in a combat situation. Even people with some training don't make it out alive. We just see it on different sides and that's fine. Fights happen in the forum. We shake hands and move on.

I don’t know if you’ve been in combat situations. I have. No, he did not.