9 hours ago, downundermike said:

Wisconsin self defense laws do not apply  if you are committing  a crime. A crime, like, I dunno, illegally possessing a gun.

Okay so (and I'm not sticking up for this kid because I don't know the facts) if you have an illegal gun on you I can just shoot you and you can't do anything about it? Did Blake have an illegal gun in his car? I honestly don't know.

 

Comes down to this in my mind. We need to stop deciding if someone is guilty because of the color of their skin in all cases. If players want to protest because an innocent person was shot to death and they know the facts I agree with that (other than flag kneeling but that's a different argument for me). If they want to protest w/o knowing facts because the "innocent" person was black then isn't that just as wrong as me taking the cops side because he's white?

We're never gonna get past race in this country unless all races stand for what's right vs what color was the victim.

6 hours ago, Green Dog said:

	Final 53	53					
	-----------------------------------						
3	QB: Wentz, Sudfeld, Hurts						
4	RB: Sanders, Scott, Clement, Holyfield						
6	WR: Jackson, Reagor, Whiteside, Ward, Watkins, Hightower						
3	TE:  Ertz, Goedert, Togiai						
3	OT: Johnson, Dillard, Mailata						
5	OG: Peters, Seumalo, Pryor, Opeta, Driscoll						
1	 C:   Kelce						
	-----------------------------------						
4	DT: Cox, Jackson, Hargrave, Ridgeway						
6	DE: Barnett, Graham, Sweat, Avery, Curry, Ostman						
5	LB: Gerry, Edwards, Riley, Taylor, Singleton						
5	CB: Slay, Coleman, Maddox, LeBlanc, Douglas						
5	 S:    McLeod, Mills, Parks, Wallace, Epps						
							
1	P: Johnston						
1	K: Elliot						
1	LS: Lovato						
							

Just going by who's been having good camps.  Pending Avery's injury timetable.

Jones don't make it?

 

 

7 hours ago, Green Dog said:

	Final 53	53					
	-----------------------------------						
3	QB: Wentz, Sudfeld, Hurts						
4	RB: Sanders, Scott, Clement, Holyfield						
6	WR: Jackson, Reagor, Whiteside, Ward, Watkins, Hightower						
3	TE:  Ertz, Goedert, Togiai						
3	OT: Johnson, Dillard, Mailata						
5	OG: Peters, Seumalo, Pryor, Opeta, Driscoll						
1	 C:   Kelce						
	-----------------------------------						
4	DT: Cox, Jackson, Hargrave, Ridgeway						
6	DE: Barnett, Graham, Sweat, Avery, Curry, Ostman						
5	LB: Gerry, Edwards, Riley, Taylor, Singleton						
5	CB: Slay, Coleman, Maddox, LeBlanc, Douglas						
5	 S:    McLeod, Mills, Parks, Wallace, Epps						
							
1	P: Johnston						
1	K: Elliot						
1	LS: Lovato						
							

Just going by who's been having good camps.  Pending Avery's injury timetable.

Is this a Xerox?  JK

My only changes would be Toohill for Avery(IR)

Bradley over Singleton

I think Craig James makes it over Douglas (trade for a 5th?) and Sidney Jones holds on to a 6th corner instead of a 5th safety in Epps.

That boy wont last 3 days in state prison , he will be crying himself to sleep.

Everybody is a bad a** with a gun in their hands , he is about to live with real men.

 

12 hours ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

So... 

By what week is Big Play Slay a disappointment? 

If he is, Schwartz gets most of the blame in my book. 

13 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

That boy wont last 3 days in state prison , he will be crying himself to sleep.

Everybody is a bad a** with a gun in their hands , he is about to live with real men.

Interesting that you consider prisoners "real men". 

9 hours ago, TEW said:

I don’t really want to get into the politics of this, but I will just say three things. First, the founders wanted able bodied males to own and bring their own weapons as members of the militia. This was intended, in part, to allow the US to do without a standing army. Any and all small arms available to infantry of the era were explicitly stated as equipment of the militia in the Militia Act. To believe that they would want their militia to be stuck with 18th century technology in the 21st century is laughable. 

Second, the founders allowed private citizens to own cannons and artillery. Not just that, but warships with entire batteries of cannon. James Madison himself wrote a letter explicitly allowing for this under the second amendment and even encouraged their use against pirates.

Third, yes, they could absolutely imagine fully automatic weapons would be possible in the future. These are some of multi-shot firearms designed before the constitution:

 

Except there were generally accepted regulations including registration, storage laws, a general ban on public carrying of firearms, no stand your ground defense to using a firearm.  

7 hours ago, Green Dog said:

	Final 53	53					
	-----------------------------------						
3	QB: Wentz, Sudfeld, Hurts						
4	RB: Sanders, Scott, Clement, Holyfield						
6	WR: Jackson, Reagor, Whiteside, Ward, Watkins, Hightower						
3	TE:  Ertz, Goedert, Togiai						
3	OT: Johnson, Dillard, Mailata						
5	OG: Peters, Seumalo, Pryor, Opeta, Driscoll						
1	 C:   Kelce						
	-----------------------------------						
4	DT: Cox, Jackson, Hargrave, Ridgeway						
6	DE: Barnett, Graham, Sweat, Avery, Curry, Ostman						
5	LB: Gerry, Edwards, Riley, Taylor, Singleton						
5	CB: Slay, Coleman, Maddox, LeBlanc, Douglas						
5	 S:    McLeod, Mills, Parks, Wallace, Epps						
							
1	P: Johnston						
1	K: Elliot						
1	LS: Lovato						
							

Just going by who's been having good camps.  Pending Avery's injury timetable.

95% of the team is a give me

Im with most other who see Bradley making this team.

Also where is the Prince? Eagles will not let him hit the PS. He will make the team. 

So add those 2 and take away Epps and Singleton. Just don;t see 5 LBs and 5 Safeties making this team. 

As in not a 17 year old boy...that boy isnt hurting anyone without his gun , his new roommates can and will.

I've been in jail , seen how it works. It's not fun.

Probably a lot of his roommates used guns too. That said if he's guilty he gets what he gets. 

4 minutes ago, greend said:

Probably a lot of his roommates used guns too. That said if he's guilty he gets what he gets. 

make your decisions, suffer the consequences of your actions.

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

  Come on man!  

 

No way in hell we would get a 5th for Douglas.  Maybe a 6th for Jones.  Maybe.  But that's a steal.  

Probably more like the number 6 at McDonald's

Projected 2020 Depth Chart – Training Camp

Offense (25)
QB(3): Wentz, Hurts, Sudfeld
RB(4): Sanders, Scott, Clement, Killins/Holyfield
TE(3): Ertz, Goedert, Togiai
WR(5): Reagor, Jackson, Arcega-Whiteside, Ward, Hightower/Watkins
OL(10): Dillard, Seumalo, Kelce, Peters, Johnson
Pryor, Herbig, Mailata, Driscoll, Tega Wanogho

Defense (25)
DE(5): Barnett, Graham, Sweat, Curry, Miller/Ostman/Toohill
DT(5): Cox, Jackson, Hargrave, Ridgeway, Rush
ILB(2): Edwards, Riley
OLB(3): Gerry, Taylor, Bradley
S(4): McLeod, Mills, Parks, Wallace
CB(6): Slay, Robey-Coleman, Douglas, Maddox, Leblanc, James/Arnold/Jacquet

Specialists (3)
K: Elliott
P: Johnston
LS: Lovato

PUP
1) Jeffrey
2) Brooks

IR
1) Avery

---

Going through this exercise, I don't see how we carry more than 5 LBs or Jeffrey not being on PUP. I'd be worried if I was Mailata too.

8 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

  Come on man!  

 

No way in hell we would get a 5th for Douglas.  Maybe a 6th for Jones.  Maybe.  But that's a steal.  

No?  I think Douglas has some game to him, just being used in the total wrong way here.  Conditional 7th?  Nothing at all? 

10 hours ago, BigEFly said:

I agree with all of this but I also cannot ignore the boyfriend was armed and fired at the people breaking in. Is that okay?  Do we have such a gun culture that killing is justified by a break in?  Sad 

Boy friend didnt kill anyone. One of his shots hit a cop in the foot. Guess he was a bad shot.

I think in most countries when armed men break down a door at 3 am the middle of the night if one had a fire arm for home protection would use it for protecting themselves or loved ones. 

If not a gun another type of weapon.

But yeah that people feel they need guns to protect themselves is an indictment on human nature not just US 

10 hours ago, BigEFly said:

When I was a borough councilman at at rate of $300 a year, we studied trying to do away with our salaries or just not cashing our checks.  We discovered it would cost more to do either so we just gave away our salaries to the volunteer fire department, the local food bank and the library. There are laws in most jurisdictions against giving yourself a raise. Educate yourself. 

Congress and Senate not local state government, sorry for not being specific.

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Going through this exercise, I see some serious concerns on this team.  WR, LB, OL

If you don't like this OL, you won't like the OL of all but maybe 5 teams in the league.

55 minutes ago, Original Sin said:

That boy wont last 3 days in state prison , he will be crying himself to sleep.

Everybody is a bad a** with a gun in their hands , he is about to live with real men.

PC up

Just now, Utebird said:

Congress and Senate not local state government, sorry for not being specific.

The kind of self-dealing that is problematic with elected officials has nothing to do with their legal compensation.  It has much more to do with self-dealing that comes through the power to spend tax dollars or misuse of campaign contributions.  

 

 

9 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

See.  You'd think we were all alone.  

 

So burbs isn't too bad.

 

Nice house

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Ok, let's get back on track.  This is a Martial Eagle.  Native to Africa.  It's big and it kills things.  

 

How to handle a Cowpies fan.

 

The phrase" well maintained militia" can be contested and has.

Gun activists will claim the 2nd amendment is clear and set in stone and the founding fathers knew exactly the culture of today when crafting the 2nd.Gun Opponents will claim the language is confusing unclear or doesnt apply to current state.I think its in the best interest of the country to come to common sense laws based on current state of the country rather than sticking with outdated laws because some dude 200 years ago wrote an amendment that applied to his time.  what those common sense gun laws are are debatable but insisting that we shouldnt have common sense gun laws based off a fluid documemt written 200 years ago is stubborn and nothing to do with common sense.

18 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

The kind of self-dealing that is problematic with elected officials has nothing to do with their legal compensation.  It has much more to do with self-dealing that comes through the power to spend tax dollars or misuse of campaign contributions.  

Agree!