1 hour ago, greend said:

I have bolt actions with detachable magazines.

Three shot?

22 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

NCIggles is an attorney and understands the law.   In my professional capacity, I dealt with the admission of criminal backgrounds in cases going to trial all the time.  The judge won’t admit the backgrounds if they cannot be shown material to the case at hand.  The shooter knew nothing about the background of those he shot so for the most part, that backgrounds won’t be admissible. (If the one that swung the skateboard has an assault conviction, that might be admitted in a limited fashion.)  Further, a lawyer isn’t going to get to argue that in front of a jury.  At least one side is going to present the admissibility of the criminal backgrounds of the decedents as a motion in limine before the trial begins. Violate the judge’s ruling in front of a jury is grounds for mistrial, appeal and the possibility of a contempt ruling.  A good lawyer, despite TV showing otherwise, isn’t going to do that.  So call me clueless.  I would call your conclusion to be based on too much TV courtroom knowledge and not the actual practice of law.  Please take that as a compliment coming from me.

Great, and evidently not a good one if he doesn't understand how they will get it out, especially with the activities they both were engaged in that night. You are just as full of bleep as he is if you think otherwise.  You both should know darn well there are ways to work the system and I'm not basing it on TV. 

 

Why was Dillard practicing in the first place with a strained shoulder? Bicep injury be a direct result of compensation from the shoulder.

1 hour ago, NCiggles said:

Right - good response.  

Non-response. I think of rape cases, where the victim is put on trial. Classic legal horror show.

59 minutes ago, EaglesfanfromND said:

A lot more people die in car accidents, shouldn't you try banning automobiles first?

You don't know what AR stands for do you?

compare shooting accidents to car accidents then and then vehicular manslaughter to gun manslaughter. 

 

1 hour ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I should have rephrased "breaking in" to "door being broken down." Yes, it almost assuredly would have gone better if no one fired a gun, but its a fight or flight situation. You have multiple people breaking down your door in the middle of the night, with no distinguishing uniforms, and not identifying themselves. With split seconds to react, I can't really blame anyone for deciding to shoot.

And in Taylor's case it was much more severe than just negligent homicide. Two came to a plea deal, 18 and 29 years imprisonment. The other 3 were 30 years, 57.5 years and life imprisonment. 

We will just disagree on this.  Frankly, if they did announce themselves, which I have doubts about, they likely aren’t charged.  Right now, that is quite likely a three against one argument.  BTW, if tried first and convicted, the conviction of the boyfriend is possibly admissible because it would arguably go the the credibility of the boyfriend as a witness. 

11 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Yea, I mean, that's true. But with OL you are mainly using your triceps to push defenders, you aren't pulling so the bicep isn't even used that much. A tricep injury is much harder for OL to play through. 

True  Don’t disagree at all with that. but i barely trust dillard to play when fully healthy.

Frankly I said what I said during the off-season and draft. When there was like 4-5 reporters talking about Dillard and people just made it like the reporters were just trying to sabotage dillard. Usually when that happens it’s like one or two reporters and other reporters actually go into some of those reporters like santiquito got. But when you have a bout 5 to 6 reporters all saying the same thing that’s not good. That’s not something you just say reporters being reporters. That Usually would mean multiple sources have been told something similar. It’s why I said during the draft if Stoutland really liked a tackle early in the draft and believed he could teach him up to be as good as dillard or eventually better then take him. And if stoutland didn’t believe in dillard then The eagles should trade him. I don’t have the answer to the second part of that but I would not be shocked if Stoutland isnt as high on dillard as the eagles are and the Eagles pushing it on him because they don’t want to admit dillard might be what they thought when draft him. I’m rooting for dillard to be that LT for the foreseeable future but i think it’s foolish of people to just dismiss things that came out cause they didn’t want to believe it. Meanwhile if you read the athletic story about his background it actually make sense with some of the reports. 

 

24 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

Just if they invented something that players could get some real live snaps in with another team before the season started. Then you could get a better idea.

Im sure the players, coaches would benefit from it as long as the Vets don;t act like little babies and complain about it. 

I actually think you are going to see a lot of sloppy bad football to start the season. Not like it’s great football the first four weeks normally but i feel this year it is likely to be worse. At least then you get some preseason snaps and combined practices With other teams which definitely helps. 

1 hour ago, EaglesfanfromND said:

A lot more people die in car accidents, shouldn't you try banning automobiles first?

You don't know what AR stands for do you?

I think cars are a little more essential to people's daily life than guns.

15 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Three shot?

5

33 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Yikes. 

damnit 

3 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

 

Honestly it’s a really bad year to have to go young on the oline with the offseason not having minicamps and even preseason. i feel its inevitable that Peters plays LT at some point this season and pryor is the RG. Not sure how long pryor lasts at right guard. I think that’s a performance week to week thing. 

55 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Just make people by insurance that covers the damage they can do with a weapon.  

You do know that insurers balk at covering gun manufacturers, gun sellers and specifically exclude coverage for shooting someone. Not enough premium for the risk. 

18 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

We will just disagree on this.  Frankly, if they did announce themselves, which I have doubts about, they likely aren’t charged.  Right now, that is quite likely a three against one argument.  BTW, if tried first and convicted, the conviction of the boyfriend is possibly admissible because it would arguably go the the credibility of the boyfriend as a witness. 

There are i believe up to 16 witnesses in the apartment complex willing to testify they never heard the police identify themselves so theres that.

Theres a good article about the law of no knock warrants and how the culture of the police force actually affects the way theyre carried out ill see if i can dig it up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/06/03/no-knock-warrant-breonna-taylor-was-illegal/

5 minutes ago, Bacarty2 said:

The warrant was for him, but they were trying to arrest the 2 others. 

No, his name was not on the warrant. 

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

True  Don’t disagree at all with that. but i barely trust dillard to play when fully healthy.

Frankly I said what I said during the off-season and draft. When there was like 4-5 reporters talking about Dillard and people just made it like the reporters were just trying to sabotage dillard. Usually when that happens it’s like one or two reporters and other reporters actually go into some of those reporters like santiquito got. But when you have a bout 5 to 6 reporters all saying the same thing that’s not good. That’s not something you just say reporters being reporters. That Usually would mean multiple sources have been told something similar. It’s why I said during the draft if Stoutland really liked a tackle early in the draft and believed he could teach him up to be as good as dillard or eventually better then take him. And if stoutland didn’t believe in dillard then The eagles should trade him. I don’t have the answer to the second part of that but I would not be shocked if Stoutland isnt as high on dillard as the eagles are and the Eagles pushing it on him because they don’t want to admit dillard might be what they thought when draft him. I’m rooting for dillard to be that LT for the foreseeable future but i think it’s foolish of people to just dismiss things that came out cause they didn’t want to believe it. Meanwhile if you read the athletic story about his background it actually make sense with some of the reports. 

I always wonder how much due diligence they even did with him predraft. From what I remember, they didn't meet or interview with him. I'm guessing they had a scout at his pro day but how much did they dig into him and study his film? From everything they said they didn't expect him to last anywhere near where they were, and they unsuccessfully were targeting and trying to trade up for someone else. Feels like they took a last minute flier on him without knowing a ton about him. 

15 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Great, and evidently not a good one if he doesn't understand how they will get it out. You are just as full of bleep as he is if you think otherwise.  You both should know darn well there are ways to work the system and I'm not basing it on TV. 

Internet is a far better source. 

2 minutes ago, Utebird said:

There are i believe up to 16 witnesses in the apartment complex willing to testify they never heard the police identify themselves so theres that.

Theres a good article about the law of no knock warrants and how the culture of the police force actually affects the way theyre carried out ill see if i can dig it up.

 

Not trying to be funny. But I feel like the attorney for the police officers is going to do like ace Ventura when Roger prodacter was killed with the door opening and closing to see if the witnesses could actually hear anything even if they announce themselves  

51 minutes ago, downundermike said:

In Alaska, if an individual drives a motor vehicle while under the influence of alcohol, an inhalant, or a controlled substance, he or she is committing the crime of driving while under the influence. A person is considered driving under the influence if within four hours of driving, the person has a blood alcohol level of 0.08% or more, or the person has 0.08 grams or more of alcohol per 210 liters in his or her breath.

You do realize that the MADD folks got Congress to pass a law that Federal Highway Fund distributions would be restricted to states that didn’t lower the intoxication level to .08%, right?  Worst kind of Federalism.  

42 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Yikes. 

Seems like there's always something with him

50 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

I don’t think it should be illegal. I’m all for personal responsibility. If someone doesn’t have kids and wants to do drugs or make decisions that affect only them, go for it. 

I am all for the Portugal model on drug possession.  Much more effective.

1 hour ago, vaeagle2 said:

here's just 1 but you can google it easy

https://www.wave3.com/2020/08/26/warrants-issued-arrest-breonna-taylors-ex-boyfriend-amid-leaked-new-documents/

If I follow the logic of your argument, the cops are free to gun down anyone with an outstanding warrant and anyone who happens to be on the premises of a property when the police hold a search warrant. I also am troubled by the consistent release (leak) of personal information of the shot individual.

Obviously, I am grossly overstating the issue. What I wish you would concede is that the police on occasion are guilty of excessive and undue force. There should not be a blanket immunity. Or perhaps, phrased differently, the issue of blanked immunity should be more closely addressed.

I do agree with the poster who said that we should pay our law enforcement better. Training should be more extensive.

I would add that big-city police are much  better at handling stressfully situations. That comes from experience in dealing with different ethnicities. In, forgive me for saying, white communities, interactions between white police and non-white individuals seems more fraught.

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I always wonder how much due diligence they even did with him predraft. From what I remember, they didn't meet or interview with him. I'm guessing they had a scout at his pro day but how much did they dig into him and study his film? From everything they said they didn't expect him to last anywhere near where they were, and they unsuccessfully were targeting and trying to trade up for someone else. Feels like they took a last minute flier on him without knowing a ton about him. 

I forget the podcast I was listening to that went into detail about how they really didn’t have much time with him and didn’t have extensive background with him. they still went with him because he didn’t think he was going to be there. I want to say it was mosher and caplan but it might actually have been roob in one of his podcasts where he has gunner on. Don’t get me wrong I wasn’t upset that they went dillard. Understood the pick where he fell you take the chance because he was projected as a top 15 player. Kind of feels like other teams picking up higher than the Eagles did a lot of leg work on his background, his personality and had a feeling that this might be an issue