6 hours ago, NCiggles said:

That's a 2nd amendment myth.  Treason is specifically prohibited in the Constitution.  Oaths of loyalty with regard to ownership of weapons have a long history in the country.  Gun ownership has nothing to do with opposition to government incursion.  

"A well regulated militia" (the phrase ignored by gun right absolutists) referred to the need in states, in a day when travel was by horseback, to maintain militias that could muster quickly, especially when aggrieved Native Americans decided to protest the theft of their land, or when slaves decided that enough was enough.

What is a militia? At the time of the American Revolutionary War, militias were groups of able-bodied men who protected their towns, colonies, and eventually states. "[When the Constitution was drafted], the militia was a state-based institution," says Rakove. "States were responsible for organizing this."What did it mean to be well regulated? One of the biggest challenges in interpreting a centuries-old document is that the meanings of words change or diverge. "Well-regulated in the 18th century tended to be something like well-organized, well-armed, well-disciplined," says Rakove. "It didn't mean 'regulation' in the sense that we use it now, in that it's not about the regulatory state. There's been nuance there. It means the militia was in an effective shape to fight."

Rakove is probably the leading historian of the Constitution (I'll take him over most law professors, of any political inclination).

https://constitutioncenter.org/images/uploads/news/CNN_Aug_11.pdf

2 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

There was a report of that resulting in a libel suit in India.  Questionable if true.  But the stuff coming from that team is like standing in line at the grocery store scoffing at the headlines on the tabloids only to find out some of this is real.  Grab your popcorn and check it out. I don’t have much use for PFT but this Snyder/Schar stuff is pure entertainment.  

I’ll read up on it. Also I think it was you who brought up the Portugal Model. Interesting read. Didn’t know about it. 

30 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Text conversation between the wife and I today.  I saw a turtle on the golf course, her response is right out of this scene in D&D.    We quote that movie all the time.   
 

 

One of my favorite movies to quote. So many good one liners. 

Just now, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

One of my favorite movies to quote. So many good one liners. 

What’s the soup of the day?

11 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Maybe it is in CVON.  

I really don’t like how it they ended it.  To make it look like a dream or made up in his mind.  

I didn’t like it at all. Dumb movie 

Just now, downundermike said:

What’s the soup of the day?

It goes "what’s the soup d’jour?”.... "it’s the soup of the day”... "that sounds great!” 

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

What’s the soup of the day?

Lovely accent you have... New Jersey?

12 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

 

I really don’t like how it they ended it.  To make it look like a dream or made up in his mind.  

I think what made it look weird is that he didn’t look much older, but I believe the last scene is supposed to take place much later when Batman grows up. I wouldn’t mind a part 2. 

1 minute ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

It goes "what’s the soup d’jour?”.... "it’s the soup of the day”... "that sounds great!” 

Life is fragile Harry. one minute you’re eating a burger and the next minute youre Dead meat

32 minutes ago, austinfan said:

That's one of the strongest arguments for universal service, forces people out of their bubble at 18 and learn to deal with people far different from themselves.

Whats universal service???

3 minutes ago, Utebird said:

Whats universal service???

Forced military service is what I think he’s referring to. 

2 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

Forced military service is what I think he’s referring to. 

Even if you have foot problems?

1 minute ago, WentzFan11 said:

Forced military service is what I think he’s referring to. 

Being forced to fight other people doesnt help one know or understand them

 

22 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Life is fragile Harry. one minute you’re eating a burger and the next minute youre Dead meat

Some place warm, where the beer flows like wine and women flock like the salmon of Capistrano. I’m talking about a little place called Aspen.

I don’t know Lloyd, the French are a-holes

3 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

Oh.  Ok. Maybe I guess.  Didn’t think of it that way.  

Yeah if you rewatch it, you’ll see that he has white hair in his beard during the last scene. That’s really all they did to age him. Lol. 
 

 

That’s the scene. Literally a very small minor detail that most people aren’t gonna catch. 

20 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

I think what made it look weird is that he didn’t look much older, but I believe the last scene is supposed to take place much later when Batman grows up. I wouldn’t mind a part 2. 

I still don’t think he’s the real Joker from Batman lore. He’s just the inspiration 

7 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Some place warm, where the beer flows like wine and women flock like the salmon of Capistrano. I’m talking about a little place called Aspen.

I don’t know Lloyd, the French are a-holes

"Maybe we should trash the place; send this guy a message”

”I don’t think he’s gonna get that message, Joe”

56 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

As far as comedies go, Dumb and Dumber is a top 10 all-time — even though it slowed down once they reached Aspen ....

I try to watch a reasonable cross section of different genres; watched a few movies lately that came out years ago but I never watched; one of which was The Dark Knight.  I agree Heath Ledger gave an excellent performance from the context of the role being vastly different than anything he’d done before — but was he fantastic in the Joker character itself?  I’d say no.  To me he came across as a bothersome sociopath, and not particularly frightening.  I hate to take issue with plot, but I didn’t buy for one second that the Batman and Harvey Dent characters wouldn’t have both killed the Joker when given the chance — it actually spoiled the movie for me a bit; it was contrived to keep the character going for a sequel.

Still, the Batman films are by far the best of the comic book genre.  Captain America was the worst movie I’ve seen in quite some time.

I disagree completely on Ledgers performance as the Joker. He was incredible in the role and he never tried to come off as frightening. His character was never meant to instill typical fear from his own actions (if anything that’s the job of Scarecrow), it was to give rise to the idea that your average every day person was the one to be feared. He also never seemed sociopathic just for the sake of being sociopathic; he always had a reason to do what he did. 
 

Also, Batman wouldn’t kill The Joker because that’s not what he does, nor does Harvey Dent because his whole character was based around courts deciding justice, thus why he didn’t take justice into his own hands. Of course that’s different at the end because his character changes, but not through the first two acts. 
 

The only thing I’d say is that the writing had some loopholes like when Joker was in Captivity and was able to escape, but that falls on the writing and not Ledger. 
 

Anyways, quick football input - I’m getting the feeling that this season is going to end up being cancelled. A few stadiums have already backed out of the fan experience and it’s likely going to continue. Mix that with the current social/political climate, which probably isn’t getting any better, and it’s likely that players are going to push for postponements. Also, there’s no guarantee that if COVID starts spreading amongst teams, players won’t start opting out more than they have. 
 

I guess that might end up being a blessing considering the players the Eagles have already lost for the year.

53 minutes ago, 4for4EaglesNest said:

According to the map, we’ve only gone four inches.  

You sold petey to a blind kid

pretty bird. Pretty bird. 

42 minutes ago, austinfan said:

"A well regulated militia" (the phrase ignored by gun right absolutists) referred to the need in states, in a day when travel was by horseback, to maintain militias that could muster quickly, especially when aggrieved Native Americans decided to protest the theft of their land, or when slaves decided that enough was enough.

What is a militia? At the time of the American Revolutionary War, militias were groups of able-bodied men who protected their towns, colonies, and eventually states. "[When the Constitution was drafted], the militia was a state-based institution," says Rakove. "States were responsible for organizing this."What did it mean to be well regulated? One of the biggest challenges in interpreting a centuries-old document is that the meanings of words change or diverge. "Well-regulated in the 18th century tended to be something like well-organized, well-armed, well-disciplined," says Rakove. "It didn't mean 'regulation' in the sense that we use it now, in that it's not about the regulatory state. There's been nuance there. It means the militia was in an effective shape to fight."

Rakove is probably the leading historian of the Constitution (I'll take him over most law professors, of any political inclination).

https://constitutioncenter.org/images/uploads/news/CNN_Aug_11.pdf

That is a bit simplistic and ignores the real fear of a standing army.  The majority of states had versions of the second amendment in their own constitutions that preceded the US Constitution and Bill of Rights.  Pennsylvania’s version specifically referred to the evil of a standing army. While some referenced individual defense, all mentioned a militia. That was our preferred means of defense at the time.  This is obviously way before our post WWII military industrial complex that Eisenhower warned us about and well predates the first police forces.  I am not sure either the Federalists or Anti-Federalists would have approve of either.

The founding fathers were revolutionaries in colonies where the majority of people were Tories or just didn’t care, so they did look at arms with an eye toward rebellion against an unjust government.  At the time they were memorializing a Second Amendment, local militias were the method of defense.  Such continued through the Civil War, where many military groups were formed locally.  Recall, the Three Sisters from your understanding of Texas history, for example of individuals purchasing arms. But we also say the draft evolve in the Civil War, something that I would argue Madison was concerned about in his own drafting of his originally proposed version of the Second Amendment, although he drew heavily on George Mason’s (not a university basketball team) Bill of Rights in the VA constitution.  By the time of the Spanish Civil War, militias were mostly an oddity like the Rough Riders.  Although combatants were still combined geographically, the impacts on local populations from deaths of groups of sons in single events finally convinced the military to stop do that after WWI   So militias as known by the founding fathers with some exception towards the National Guard don’t exist anymore and that evil standing army?............

I think the founding fathers would be disappointed in us, today (although I think that greedy **** Hamilton would be a hedge fund operator on Wall Street).   For the sake of the country, they gave us the tenth amendment.  

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

 

 

"Killer boots man"

Oh man this one definitely hurts. He’s like a god out here if you’ve ever been to Tucson. Better person off the court. I remember Going to the final four in 2001. Day before the championship game vs. Duke he and his family waltzed into our hotel to get out of the snow flurries. Saw my best friend and I in Arizona year. Came over and talked to us for a good half hour about basketball And the season where he lost his wife And how he knew she was along for the ride. After that I got the pleasure to meet him multiple times and every time always went out of his way to Make you feel like you were the only person that mattered. RIP Coach O. 

 

1 hour ago, WentzFan11 said:

I’ll read up on it. Also I think it was you who brought up the Portugal Model. Interesting read. Didn’t know about it. 

It really works. Let’s face it, the war on drugs isn’t working.  The Portugal model works.  Appeals to my fiscal conservative leanings as well.  

1 hour ago, Utebird said:

Whats universal service???

Serving your country in some capacity as you reach adulthood.  Not necessarily military. Could be America Corps or Peace Corps. A WPA approach works.  I have no issue for deferral for service such as a primary care physician in underserved areas or a lawyer as a public defender.  Israel has universal service. 

Man, facing the wasteam DL with our patched up OL has me concerned.  Waiting the official report on Dillard.