6 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

Have you ever watched him play Rugby? He is a TE, lol. He would have a good amount of success I think in that redzone based off his play in Rugby. 

I'm with you. A trick play with him catching a t.d. as an extra blocker or even off the end as a tackle would be great. Although J.P. was a t.e. at one point and we never used him as such

5 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Not really. What it says is his transition to outside WR is going a little slowly. He also was out with Covid at the beginning of camp.

While I think it underscores some of the concerns with Jefferson, I think the comparison is off. 

Your response is very rational.

Do you think the reaction would be the same if Reagor was on the 2nd team and struggling while Jefferson was lighting it up with the Vikings? 

We've been spoiled.

Most teams go through this offensive line angst every season.

We have two veteran pro-bowlers and a solid LG.  That's still better than most teams. 

We also have, albeit old, a HOF LT.  Our starting RG (Pryor) will probably play similarly to the majority of linemen on other teams.

The only legitimate concern is depth.  Which, again, is a prevalent problem around the league.

12 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

Have you ever watched him play Rugby? He is a TE, lol. He would have a good amount of success I think in that redzone based off his play in Rugby. 

5+ 40 isn’t a TE in the NFL and I saw JP play TE at Arkansas.

3 minutes ago, RLC said:

Your response is very rational.

Do you think the reaction would be the same if Reagor was on the 2nd team and struggling while Jefferson was lighting it up with the Vikings? 

If Jefferson were lighting it up as an outside WR, I would say it appears I was wrong about him.

I think most of us expected him to be a really good slot WR. By many accounts he’s been really good there in camp.  

2 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

We've been spoiled.

Most teams go through this offensive line angst every season.

We have two veteran pro-bowlers and a solid LG.  That's still better than most teams. 

We also have, albeit old, a HOF LT.  Our starting RG (Pryor) will probably play similarly to the majority of linemen on other teams.

The only legitimate concern is depth.  Which, again, is a prevalent problem around the league.

Seahawks and Texans been making the playoffs a good amount and havent had any legit Oline player in years. Guess it helps to have a scrambling, run for your life QB. Snap, run all over till you finally find a player open. 

But agreed, we have been spoiled with a good oline and backups in most cases. Maybe we find a diamond in the ruff in our depth chart.

6 minutes ago, greend said:

I'm with you. A trick play with him catching a t.d. as an extra blocker or even off the end as a tackle would be great. Although J.P. was a t.e. at one point and we never used him as such

Linemen who play a lot wear gloves. There are so many things that can happen to your hands in those positions that they have to protect them. You expect this guy to catch passes with thos mitts?

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

If Jefferson were lighting it up as an outside WR, I would say it appears I was wrong about him.

I think most of us expected him to be a really good slot WR. By many accounts he’s been really good there in camp.  

If you're going to draft a slot WR in RD 1, I'd like to hear more than just "fine".

By all accounts, Jefferson has been the least impressive RD1 WR. 

7 minutes ago, RLC said:

If you're going to draft a slot WR in RD 1, I'd like to hear more than just "fine".

By all accounts, Jefferson has been the least impressive RD1 WR. 

I think that’s accurate from what I’ve read. Sounds like my guy Aiyuk was ballin’ too before he got hurt. 

Just now, RLC said:

If you're going to draft a slot WR in RD 1, I'd like to hear more than just "fine".

By all accounts, Jefferson has been the least impressive RD1 WR. 

Admittedly I haven't been keeping close tabs on Jefferson but those "all accounts" that I am aware of add up to one, this one.

Everyone of our back up OL played mostly left tackle or right tackle in college except Herbig and Juriga.  (Mailata didn’t play in college but has played LT or RT for three summers in the NFL.  Yes, they are young and green but I believe Stout had a handle in their selection.  I am not as worried about the OL depth as others.  

18 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

We've been spoiled.

Most teams go through this offensive line angst every season.

We have two veteran pro-bowlers and a solid LG.  That's still better than most teams. 

We also have, albeit old, a HOF LT.  Our starting RG (Pryor) will probably play similarly to the majority of linemen on other teams.

The only legitimate concern is depth.  Which, again, is a prevalent problem around the league.

I think each time is like that. Ours has been Oline. Other teams have a different position that they are spoiled with

Though I think Oline would be the better one. I rather Wentz be healthy than running for his life every snap

2 hours ago, NCiggles said:

The really terrible play that is well documented by multiple reporters would be an outlier if it wasn't for the other information.  We have some pretty bad games he had as a rookie. The rumors that he was on the trading block this past offseason.  By most reporters accounts, he has struggled in camp in addition to the bad play.  It's not like he has been dominant in camp.  He has had at least one other instance where reporters have pointed out him getting beat on consecutive plays by Josh Sweat.  I think there are other reports of him not playing well. While ultimately the coaches are in a better position than reporters to judge his ability, nothing seems promising at this point.   LT is arguably the second most important position on the offense.  It is wise to invest resources into the position.  It's a no-brainer when it's not clear that the team has a solid starting LT on their roster for 2021.  

sheil wrote a detailed story about dillard in high school and college Where he almost quit and his dad in the story talked about him not exactly loving the game of football. Then the stories came out from reporters during the offseason which isn’t that far of stretch if you read Dillard’s background story. It is a lot of the same things that he dealt with early in college and his high school career. And it was not just one reporter in kempski but mosher talked about what he heard, Caplan talked about it, roob talked about what he heard, Gunner talked about it, kempski talked about it, Jeff mclane talked about it and what they were told. All had sources saying similar things. It wasn’t just one reporter. It was coming from multiple. I don’t think the philly media got together to be like hey let’s all sabotage Andre Dillard’s chances and career. Maybe they are reporting what has been said to them and maybe some of it is the truth

am i saying dillard sucks and is hopeless? No. Am i giving up on him? No. I hope he is the LT for the foreseeable future. However I’m also not going to blindly accept that he’s a lock as the long term answer either just cause he was a first round pick who has talent. You can have talent and be a first rounder and fail too. You hope since he has that talent that made him a first that he puts it all together with stoutland’s coaching to be the player we envisioned when he was drafted  

What I’m saying (And others) is he might not be the lock of the century like it is assumed on the blog cause he was serviceable at LT and horrible at RT as a rookie and a first round pick. The fact of the matter is just cause you were a first round pick with talent doesn’t mean it’s a given you become the left tackle that plays the position for the eagles for the next decade. My point has been and always will be for any player of the eagles (or stoutland in this case) if you believe there was a tackle(or player) in this draft you loved more or as much as dillard (someone else on the roster) or thought could he as good or better than dillard with stout coaching him then go get him if he’s obtainable. Cause dillard isn’t a lock to be successful. Also means if you don’t believe in dillard 100% As an organization then don’t just take the risk of hoping it works out cause you spent high draft capital. 

We need to speed up Jeffery on his recovery. Some sad injury hit team will make the desperate move and free us of him. Reminds me of another team last year losing recs every other day.

http://www.theredzone.org/Blog-Description/EntryId/83236/Another-49ers-WR-goes-down--J-J--Nelson-suffers-knee-injury

Microsoft-Walmart partnership bid for Tik Tok.  Think the wife must be slipping acid into my wine.  Must be hallucinating. 

3 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

We need to speed up Jeffery on his recovery. Some sad injury hit team will make the desperate move and free us of him. 

http://www.theredzone.org/Blog-Description/EntryId/83236/Another-49ers-WR-goes-down--J-J--Nelson-suffers-knee-injury

Do you understand the cap hit from such a trade?  We have talked a lot about that on the non-football version of the Blog. 

34 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

I know in todays NFL, the Rugby players are tougher lol. They dont cry about every little thing. "we can't play preseason, Im not paid enough"

Reminds me of the rugby guy in Necessary Roughness who held onto the ball. When he wakes up get him some pads...

1 minute ago, BigEFly said:

Do you understand the cap hit from such a trade?  We have talked a lot about that on the non-football version of the Blog. 

Times like this where don was great at breaking it down with the cap and showing why A trade was nonsense. It’s the same with people coming up with trade ertz before the season makes no sense as well. His dead money is 13.5 mil which is more than his cap number. So the eagles aren’t doing it this year for sure. Yet somehow the suggestion is made. 

1 hour ago, DeathByEagle said:

Dilliard played well last year when he was in for Peters at LT. It was only at RT he struggled. He even knew he would when he was in his press conf before the game. Not sure why some are giving up already on him already. However these rookies will get tested and its exactly what they need as oline is the second most important position on the field. We need solid backups that can have a positive effect on the team when needed. Big V was a great backup and will be missed. 

 

25 minutes ago, justrelax said:

Mostly Kempski, who nurtures grudges and looks to denigrate wherever possible. He knows nothing of line play, absolutely nothing. He gets his rocks off with snide remarks.

Let's leave aside your dislike of Kempski.  I am not going to pretend I know as much as you about o-line play.  I am offering my opinion based on what has been reported.  My opinion is that LT/OT is now moreso than before the injury a priority in the draft.  I have no idea whether Dillard will be successful as a player or not.  I hope that he is.  I think he's going to get an opportunity.  The fact that they had penciled him as a starter before the season says the team believes he was good enough to start.  The fact that there were reports that he was on the trading block and that Peters was going to be re-signed prior to Brooks injury also tell me there was some concern.  On top of that, most of the reporters have not had glowing praise for Dillard.  Sheil Kapadia, Zach Berman and Bo Wulf discussed back to back reps where Josh Sweat beat Dillard with a spin move.  He then over-corrected and lost on a bull rush move.  Then you have the rep where he got pancaked by Joel Ostman.  

This was Paul Domowitch's description of his play over his first 3 games: 

Dillard, the Eagles’ highly regarded first-round pick out of Washington State, played just 16 offensive snaps in the first five games as the 37-year-old Peters stayed surprisingly healthy. But the eight-time Pro Bowl player hurt his knee in the first quarter of the Eagles’ Week 6 loss to the Vikings, and ready or not, Dillard was next man up.

He played 47 of 64 snaps in the 38-20 loss, and gave up a bull-rush sack to Vikings defensive end Danielle Hunter and nine total pressures. Dillard gave up another bull-rush sack the following week to the Cowboys’ Robert Quinn in a 37-10 loss, but he played a little better than the previous week.

He turned the corner in Week 8 against Hughes and the Bills, giving up yet another bull-rush sack, this one to Bills defensive end Shaq Lawson, but otherwise played a solid overall game. Same thing Sunday against the Bears.

https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/eagles-andre-dillard-jason-peters-left-tackle-first-round-pick-starter-hall-of-fame-injury-prone-sacks-20191107.html

Kempski's article isn't an opinion piece.  https://www.phillyvoice.com/eagles-new-player-or-current-player-new-role-series-andre-dillard-edition/ He focuses on sacks allowed:

Despite only playing a total 343 snaps on the season (183 of which were pass blocking snaps), Dillard led the team in sacks allowed:

 

Andre Dillard	6.5	183
Jason Peters	3	602
Isaac Seumalo	2.5	763
Halapoulivaati Vaitai	2	331

 

In terms of the team concerns, McLane started with the story.  https://www.inquirer.com/eagles/eagles-jason-peters-malcolm-jenkins-alshon-jeffery-20200229.html Derrick Gunn also discussed it some.  

So I think relying on him in 2021 isn't a great plan.  I think they need to address the position early on in the draft.  

8 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

We need to speed up Jeffery on his recovery. Some sad injury hit team will make the desperate move and free us of him. 

http://www.theredzone.org/Blog-Description/EntryId/83236/Another-49ers-WR-goes-down--J-J--Nelson-suffers-knee-injury

They’ve only got until Sept 5 to take him off PUP, so you’ll have your answer soon.

 

The bungles are allowing fans to buy cardboard cutout pictures of themselves to man the stands. If the Eagles do that would they really accept Foghorn from me.   Maybe I could Howie for Henry Hawk. I say son.....

11 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Do you understand the cap hit from such a trade?  We have talked a lot about that on the non-football version of the Blog. 

Yes, but maybe you failed to remember if he is traded the cap hit/dead cap is structured different and we don't take nearly the same hit. We can't cut him but we can trade him. 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/alshon-jeffery-9855/

Click the Dead cap 26,106,000 and it breaks it all down for you

Post 6/1 Trade

2020 Dead Cap: $5,536,500

2021 Dead Cap: $10,659,500

2020 Cap Savings: $9,860,000

4 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

Yes, but maybe you failed to remember if he is traded the cap hit/dead cap is structured different and we don't take nearly the same hit. We can't cut him but we can trade him. 

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/alshon-jeffery-9855/

We save $1 million. Trading v cutting but it is $26 million.   

2 hours ago, justrelax said:

Perhaps it's a function of age but I do not give up on players, especially linemen, as quickly as do many others. The differences between college and pro are nowhere as great as they are in line play. Seumalo was dismissed several times here though not by me. He's now a really good player. I believe Dillard will also be a very good player; obviously you don't. I believe Mailata may become a really good player but most don't.

And so it goes.

Plus, it takes time to evaluate college OL and find the right fit. Driscoll's arms are too short to box with God or DEs, but I think he's the LG of the future.

Mailata is just a matter of getting over his back issues, he was always a project, but his size and athleticism means he can contribute while learning on the job, his technique doesn't have to be perfect when he can reach out and touch someone, and his punch can be erratic when he has 360 lbs behind it.

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