I dislike the trade for both teams. Jacksonville needed to trade him before July, when teams could extend him, to get more than second. So they're going to eat cap space and likely get a mid-round 2nd for a Pro Bowl DE? That's not great. For the Vikings, this gives them three UFAs at the end of the year (Cook, Harris, Yannick) with only one tag. Like Tunsil and Ramsey before them, when you trade for a new player, you give up leverage in the negotiation. So if they tag Ngakoue, they're going to let the other 2 walk or pay them premium prices. Finally, from the Vikings's side, this clearly makes them better. However, this is the type of a trade a Super Bowl contender should make. Are the Vikings with Kirk Cousins really a SB contender?

As I mentioned in another threat, we were never going to get Yannick for 2 reasons and they are major key factors

1- Howie does not trade 1 or 2nd round picks

2- We can not sign him long term even if we cut a bunch of players next year. 

So Im not sure why anyone would be surprised or even upset over it. So just live in a unrealistic world that thinks we can trade and sign every star player out there. 

 

Lol

14 minutes ago, RLC said:

I dislike the trade for both teams. Jacksonville needed to trade him before July, when teams could extend him, to get more than second. So they're going to eat cap space and likely get a mid-round 2nd for a Pro Bowl DE? That's not great. For the Vikings, this gives them three UFAs at the end of the year (Cook, Harris, Yannick) with only one tag. Like Tunsil and Ramsey before them, when you trade for a new player, you give up leverage in the negotiation. So if they tag Ngakoue, they're going to let the other 2 walk or pay them premium prices. Finally, from the Vikings's side, this clearly makes them better. However, this is the type of a trade a Super Bowl contender should make. Are the Vikings with Kirk Cousins really a SB contender?

Were the Eagles a SB contender in most eyes with Foles? How about Keenum on that 2017 Vikings team? So with Cousins Id say yes. But it takes a lot of other factors then the QB. Plus a little luck here and there. I think the coaching/scheme, team attitude and the luck part of it is the biggest factor over the QB. So Id answer that question with a Yes, they could be SB contenders with Cousins if they have everything else in their favor. But that goes for a lot of teams. 

7 minutes ago, DeathByEagle said:

Were the Eagles a SB contender in most eyes with Foles? How about Keenum on that 2017 Vikings team? 

But that's why teams that aren't obvious SB contenders shouldn't trade away future premium picks. For every year 2017 Eagles, there's 10 teams that thought they were close and "missed".

How much do you have to hate your team to take a 4-5M pay cut?

28 minutes ago, RLC said:

I dislike the trade for both teams. Jacksonville needed to trade him before July, when teams could extend him, to get more than second. So they're going to eat cap space and likely get a mid-round 2nd for a Pro Bowl DE? That's not great. For the Vikings, this gives them three UFAs at the end of the year (Cook, Harris, Yannick) with only one tag. Like Tunsil and Ramsey before them, when you trade for a new player, you give up leverage in the negotiation. So if they tag Ngakoue, they're going to let the other 2 walk or pay them premium prices. Finally, from the Vikings's side, this clearly makes them better. However, this is the type of a trade a Super Bowl contender should make. Are the Vikings with Kirk Cousins really a SB contender?

If the Vikings are smart they give Harris an extension before next offseason, tag Ngakoue, and let Cook walk.

11 minutes ago, RLC said:

How much do you have to hate your team to take a 4-5M pay cut?

He said before it wasn't all about money. It was about him hating how the team(GM, Coach, Owner) treated him and disrespected him. He knows in the end he will get paid no matter what. But when your in a bad culture environment you will never be happy which can effect more then just what you can buy. 

20 minutes ago, RLC said:

But that's why teams that aren't obvious SB contenders shouldn't trade away future premium picks. For every year 2017 Eagles, there's 10 teams that thought they were close and "missed".

I think way too much plays into it then one player/one pick on if your a SB contender. You have to look at his talent not just for this year but many years to come. Hes very young. 

You also have to consider that a 2nd round pick in the 2021 draft is worth so much less then past drafts due to no college football. 

Whoa. 

Fans always want an all-star team.  They just love the named players and sign all of them out there, other factors notwithstanding.

It is understandable that Peters asks for LT money.  If they do move him there, he should get a raise.  But if they keep him at RG and the corresponding contract, but need him at LT in some games, things will get tricky.  They may have to amend the contract to accommodate that situation.

I would favor they play a young one at LT.  Peters is a good LT but he can't play forever.  The team has to get a young one ready to play in this season and definitely next season.  Too bad Dillar and Mailata have not established themselves at LT, unsettling the situation.  The FO has been saying all the right things.  But they need to decide and act soon as the season is only 2 weeks away. 

I think people are forgetting we did get Slay this offseason and Hargrave. Those are 2 big additions. 

I just had one guy in another threat say " I just want one stud this offseason" 

Well you landed 1 already with another one possibly being one as well. 

You cant have them all. 

18 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Whoa. 

BS, dude had a lights out game. Thumb had zero effect on that game. 

24 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Whoa. 

Pure fabrication.  No one should believe anything that comes out of that organization.  His thumb was so badly damaged they sent him out on a pass catching route in the Super Bowl -- yup, lines up

15 hours ago, eagle45 said:

I can't think of it offhand, but perhaps it's out there.....is there one example in NFL history or in sports history of a player refusing to accept an upgraded role...on a fresh contract ...after the calendar year has begun...without a pay raise?  I can't think of a single example.

How about Carson Wentz? Rookie backup until the Bradford trade.

Just now, Shocker54 said:

Howie been asleep at dat a wheel again. Damn smh 

Was he Dasheep ad dat wheel whn he trad for Slay? 

3 minutes ago, justrelax said:

How about Carson Wentz? Rookie backup until the Bradford trade.

Just now, Shocker54 said:

Yo he's put dat in cruize controls dat was an easy jawn. Damn smh 

The point is you can't have them all. You landed 2 big additions this year in Slay and Hargrave. Get over it saying hes not trying to improve the team, hes asleep at the wheel. You people are unrealistic. your playing too much madden.

50 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Whoa. 

so, not really serious at all. He had a cut. 

Guys, Tom Brady is just a tough player. What other QB could play his position with a cut on his hand? What other player could get results throwing to Rob Gronkowski and Julian Edelman without his elite accuracy? 

21 hours ago, Asg 15 said:

So let me get this straight. Just to throw out some numbers. You accept a job for $20 per hour if the company loses a worker who is in a $40 Per Hour job would you do the $40 ph job permanently at $20 ph?. 

This isn't temporarily covering for someone. This is as permanent as it gets in the NFL

Permanently is the key word here. This would not be a permanent promotion, it'd be 1 season at most. I might do the job that pays $40/hr. short term until I had proved I could do it. If I proved I could do that job and they still didn't want to pay me, so long it's been real. There's no future there.

Good trade by Minnesota IMO. Yannick is the real deal. All depends on them being confident he will sign long term though. Gotta imagine him taking less money for the year is a good sign there. Here's hoping they bomb and he walks in a year. 

 

52 minutes ago, justrelax said:

How about Carson Wentz? Rookie backup until the Bradford trade.

I guess I missed the part where Wentz refused to start as a rookie unless he got a raise.  

More dominoes to drop soon sounds like. Doubt the Eagles do anything splashy (if at all) but still a fair number of interesting FAs still waiting around.