6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Why do i get the feeling he’s going to come back and re-aggravate the injury cause they should’ve just had the surgery to repair it. It’s a 8-12 week recovery from surgery. Meaning if he has it now he comes back week 6-7. There’s a chance he doesn’t play until week 3 anyway and high chance of re-injuring it

Because we’ve read this book before. 

Just now, UK Eagle said:

Totally.  I'm thinking longer term than week 1 and if the deficiencies of other players can be hidden better elsewhere.  At this point you are moving 2 players anyway so my thought is what is better for week 10, week 11, etc?  Esp with a QB that fumbles the ball a lot.

By week 10 if you do that it might not even matter. If your right tackle is still that bad and your right guard also is having issues (Peters might or might not even be playing then) teams are just got a feast on that side of the line and go after that weakness. So fixing left side is nice by week 10 but your right might be so beat up and taken advantage of the first 5-6 weeks it might not matter. It also doesn’t help the situation that your right guard has never played right guard before so your entire right side of the line is essentially a back up and somebody who’s playing right guard for the first time in his career. 

5 minutes ago, hputenis said:

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Because we’ve read this book before. 

As much as it sucks If you elect the surgery and then IR him for the first 8 weeks, the silver lining might be that Watkins gets to make the roster and not have to go through waivers. When Reagor comes back if Watkins hasn’t done anything can just come up with a injury and IR him.

even if reagor comes back by week two he has a higher chance of re-injuring himself or he’s not as comfortable because it’s still bothering him and you don’t get the production you are looking for.  

18 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Why do i get the feeling he’s going to come back and re-aggravate the injury cause they should’ve just had the surgery to repair it. It’s a 8-12 week recovery from surgery. Meaning if he has it now he comes back week 6-7. There’s a chance he doesn’t play until week 3 anyway and high chance of re-injuring it

This is not like DJ last year, but it could turn out that way. It seems like they will need to keep Watkins and Burnett. at least for the 1st few weeks, and then make decisions on which of those players to drop when Reagor returns. Unless they keep 7 WR's period?  Alshon may still return mid season too? and go light somewhere else. With 7 WR's there may still be a need to drop someone .They also need to reinforce the OL and may go heavier there. So LB, CB, DE, RB could be where they would go light?  Injuries are always tough.

Aren't there new rules about the IR list this year? I think you can put a guy on it for 3 weeks.  If so, that's what they should do with Reagor and it will allow them to keep an additional WR for now.  That might allow them to keep Burnett or Bailey.  I'm already certain that Hightower and Watkins are making this team.  I think Hightower might be our best WR a couple of years down the road.

OK so a lot of the hype is around Deontay Burnett.  IR Reagor, let him heal 100%, role with DJack, Ward, JJAW, Burnett, Watkins and Hightower.  Week 8, Burnett can be let go.

So our second round pick that no one wanted and best case scenario never sees the field this year, injures our first rounder who we needed to have a significant impact this year. That's pretty rich. 

2 minutes ago, CaliEagle said:

Aren't there new rules about the IR list this year? I think you can put a guy on it for 3 weeks.  If so, that's what they should do with Reagor and it will allow them to keep an additional WR for now.  That might allow them to keep Burnett or Bailey.  I'm already certain that Hightower and Watkins are making this team.  I think Hightower might be our best WR a couple of years down the road.

Yup. 3 week minimum and unlimited returns 

3 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

By week 10 if you do that it might not even matter. If your right tackle is still that bad and your right guard also is having issues (Peters might or might not even be playing then) teams are just got a feast on that side of the line and go after that weakness. So fixing left side is nice by week 10 but your right might be so beat up and taken advantage of the first 5-6 weeks it might not matter. It also doesn’t help the situation that your right guard has never played right guard before so your entire right side of the line is essentially a back up and somebody who’s playing right guard for the first time in his career. 

So then what happens in JP goes to LT and gets injured. It's a cluster muck.  The decision for Stoutland is where is the biggest fall off at LT or RT, depth wise?

15 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Why do i get the feeling he’s going to come back and re-aggravate the injury cause they should’ve just had the surgery to repair it. It’s a 8-12 week recovery from surgery. Meaning if he has it now he comes back week 6-7. There’s a chance he doesn’t play until week 3 anyway and high chance of re-injuring it

Completely agree. You would think the Eagles would have learned their lesson after last year.

 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

If surgery can ensure more stability going forward, I hope he chooses that option. If it's one of those he can play without it, but is more susceptible to reinjury , then get the surgery.

Any reports on how Peter's did at RG?  Overcoming one weak point on the line is tough but not impossible (not the same severity but Vaitai got a lot of help during the Eagles Superbowl run.  Overcoming 2 would be another issue...

 

3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Completely agree. You would think the Eagles would have learned their lesson after last year.

It’s up to the player. They told DeSean to get surgery 

Just now, DEagle7 said:

Any reports on how Peter's did at RG?  Overcoming one weak point on the line is tough but not impossible (not the same severity but Vaitai got a lot of help during the Eagles Superbowl run.  Overcoming 2 would be another issue...

Supposedly good. I forget who but someone said he was very strong in drills. Also haven’t heard his name brought up negatively at all

3 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Any reports on how Peter's did at RG?  Overcoming one weak point on the line is tough but not impossible (not the same severity but Vaitai got a lot of help during the Eagles Superbowl run.  Overcoming 2 would be another issue...

I posted what howie said yesterday on here. John Clark had it on his instagram I’ll try to find it and post it again here’s Clark’s post 

 

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

I'm not real comfortable with Jeffery rushing back from a Lisfranc injury. Those injuries are tough to come back from. The last thing I want to see is him out there running routes at half speed, not trusting the foot.  

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

As much as it sucks If you elect the surgery and then IR him for the first 8 weeks, the silver lining might be that Watkins gets to make the roster and not have to go through waivers. When Reagor comes back if Watkins hasn’t done anything can just come up with a injury and IR him.

even if reagor comes back by week two he has a higher chance of re-injuring himself or he’s not as comfortable because it’s still bothering him and you don’t get the production you are looking for.  

What is the limit on designated IR players for return this year? They possibly have Alshon as one and they say Dillard can come back so do they out him on there too? That's already 2 players designated and normally that's the limit. This team is in a lot of trouble they can't designate everyone to come back even if it's up to 3 guys. Someone is going to have to go IR for the whole season and possibly someone being cut with the way things are going with trying to figure out who you want back after week 8. 

3 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

What is the limit on designated IR players for return this year? They possibly have Alshon as one and they say Dillard can come back so do they out him on there too? That's already 2 players designated and normally that's the limit. This team is in a lot of trouble they can't designate everyone to come back even if it's up to 3 guys. Someone is going to have to go IR for the whole season and possibly someone being cut with the way things are going with trying to figure out who you want back after week 8. 

Alshon would be Pup to start the year if they chose that route which caplan is saying they aren’t. So that’s not really likely on his end. hes gonna play in September by all accounts so he’s not starting the year on IR or Pup

dillard is done for the year. I would have to look at the designation but i think he’s likely done. I know brooks they didn’t rule it out but have a hard time believing he’s back in December. 

2 minutes ago, CaliEagle said:

I'm not real comfortable with Jeffery rushing back from a Lisfranc injury. Those injuries are tough to come back from. The last thing I want to see is him out there running routes at half speed, not trusting the foot.  

I don’t think coming off PUP necessarily means he’s playing week 1. They could feel he’s 3-4 weeks out so don’t want to have to keep him on PUP and lose 7. In that scenario I wonder if they could remove him from PUP but IR him until he’s ready 

4 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

What is the limit on designated IR players for return this year? They possibly have Alshon as one and they say Dillard can come back so do they out him on there too? That's already 2 players designated and normally that's the limit. This team is in a lot of trouble they can't designate everyone to come back even if it's up to 3 guys. Someone is going to have to go IR for the whole season and possibly someone being cut with the way things are going with trying to figure out who you want back after week 8. 

 

10 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Yup. 3 week minimum and unlimited returns 

 

1 minute ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Alshon would be Pup to start the year if they chose that route which caplan is saying they aren’t. So that’s not really likely on his end. hes gonna play in September by all accounts so he’s not starting the year on IR or Pup

dillard is done for the year. I would have to look at the designation but i think he’s likely done. I know brooks they didn’t rule it out but have a hard time believing he’s back in December. 

Either way they already have a lot of choices to make on who they want to designate to return . This is ugly. 

3 hours ago, RLC said:

The Eagles' bad injury luck is something else. 

It's honestly the most mind blowing thing I've ever seen.  If anyone responds with "injuries happen to every team" I'm gonna lose my mind.  No they don't.  This team is different.  They lose more key starters than every team in the league every year............even during the SB run.  

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I don’t think coming off PUP necessarily means he’s playing week 1. They could feel he’s 3-4 weeks out so don’t want to have to keep him on PUP and lose 7. In that scenario I wonder if they could remove him from PUP but IR him until he’s ready 

 

 

With the unlimited returns being involved it makes sense to IR him for 3 weeks then bring him back if they don’t believe he’d play til week 3-4 

1 minute ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Either way they already have a lot of choices to make on who they want to designate to return . This is ugly. 

There are no designations. This year only