2 minutes ago, greend said:

https://www.wgal.com/article/u-s-department-of-justice-investigating-nursing-home-deaths/33820751

Possibly political.

Also, these four states were hit hard early and had to make decisions with less information than is available now.

FYI...my mother contracted COVID in May and was subject to this requirement.  She was shuttled back and forth between the hospital and her home a few times because the parameters were still evolving at the time.  It sucked for her.  But at least her facility was competent enough to take care of her.  She survived.

 

2 minutes ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

I need the government to tell me to social distance and to wear a mask. If they don't tell me to do it, I can't be expected to read the news and decide for myself.

 

This is like 50% of the population, and it’s not the government. More specifically, it’s their "team” telling them what to do. 

1 minute ago, dawkdaballhawk said:

I need the government to tell me to social distance and to wear a mask. If they don't tell me to do it, I can't be expected to read the news and decide for myself.

 

I'm about as conservative as they come. But honestly Trump did down play it at first and there are still a lot of "right wingers" that won't wear masks because they believe it all a hoax, and they're all dick heads.

2 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

At some point, the line becomes very blurry between patients who die from a COVID infection with a comorbidity and patients who died from a comorbidity and happened to have COVID.  

I guess the salient question would be, "Would they have died without COVID?"  I am not sure the data exist to evaluate this.

20 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I know, I'm just looking at scenarios.  I can see this one being an option.  Burnett would be your #6 so hardly seeing the field at all anyway.  Do the Eagles ever run 5 WR at once let alone 6?  You still have plenty of options to mix your WR up.

We’re never gonna run out six WRs, and almost never five. That would mean taking off Ertz and Goedert for far lesser players. 

I dont know, call me crazy, but if I have older Patients with COVID, which is very contagious , I think the last place I would put them would be nursing homes, in with those people who are already sick and compromised. And I dont need any data on a COVID -19 research telling me the old are the most vulnerable, because they are always the most vulnerable for any contagious issue, hell the reg flu is dangerous to older sick people. 

Thats like a duh.....

 

2 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Possibly political.

Also, these four states were hit hard early and had to make decisions with less information than is available now.

FYI...my mother contracted COVID in May and was subject to this requirement.  She was shuttled back and forth between the hospital and her home a few times because the parameters were still evolving at the time.  It sucked for her.  But at least her facility was competent enough to take care of her.  She survived.

 

I'm glad that your Mom survived but it wasn't the smart thing to do seeing as how the old folks are more susceptible to die from it, things like that make me wonder. Again my thoughts are simply that politicians only care about winning and their parties winning, and they try and use us all like pawns. 

1 minute ago, Desertbirds said:

I guess the salient question would be, "Would they have died without COVID?"  I am not sure the data exist to evaluate this.

The deaths caused by the common flu are similar.  People with underlying health issues are the majority of the victims.

Difference with COVID...although a little less lethal, incredibly more contagious and no vaccine.

1 minute ago, greend said:

I'm glad that your Mom survived but it wasn't the smart thing to do seeing as how the old folks are more susceptible to die from it, things like that make me wonder. Again my thoughts are simply that politicians only care about winning and their parties winning, and they try and use us all like pawns. 

Of course they do. It’s why I wish we could abolish the 2 party system. I imagine people would vote differently after hearing a politician speak if they didn’t have a party affiliation.

Just now, WentzFan11 said:

Of course they do. It’s why I wish we could abolish the 2 party system. I imagine people would vote differently after hearing a politician speak if they didn’t have a party affiliation.

Quite possibly. If they would speak the truth.

1 minute ago, WentzFan11 said:

Of course they do. It’s why I wish we could abolish the 2 party system. I imagine people would vote differently after hearing a politician speak if they didn’t have a party affiliation.

So what is your solution? A single party system or more than 2 parties?

1 minute ago, greend said:

Quite possibly. If they would speak the truth.

Hehe. Good luck with that.

I miss Cronkite, Brinkley, etc.....when there was only one set of facts.

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

At some point, the line becomes very blurry between patients who die from a COVID infection with a comorbidity and patients who died from a comorbidity and happened to have COVID.  

Probably there could be some agreement that having COVID had negative impact on their health if nothing else it certainly didn't help the condition.  

 

1 minute ago, Desertbirds said:

I guess the salient question would be, "Would they have died without COVID?"  I am not sure the data exist to evaluate this.

On a case-by-case basis, it is an unanswerable question.  I've evaluated about 1,000 neurological-related deaths in COVID+ patients.  

I've seen obvious deaths due to neurological reasons recorded as COVID deaths.  I've seen neurological deaths in COVID+ patients that very well may have been precipitated/accelerated by the COVID infection.  

At the population level, it would take some major AI-driven computing and statistical horsepower to dissect through the incidence of various deaths (MI's, pneumonia, cancer, even trauma) in a normal year compared to what we have seen in COVID+ patients with these same comorbidities to actually get a handle on it.  No one is doing this, despite a few weak papers that make a passing attempt to tie it all together.  There are true COVID only deaths, COVID accelerated/contributed deaths, and COVID coincident deaths.  It's very, very hard to get the numbers on each category.  

1 minute ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I miss Cronkite, Brinkley, etc.....when there was only one set of facts.

When they moved from hard news to commentary they clearly  stated so.

2 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

So what is your solution? A single party system or more than 2 parties?

Hehe. Good luck with that.

None. Everyone is an independent. 
 

You don’t even need a platform to win an election anymore. You just need the right letter in front of your name. 

5 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

I miss Cronkite, Brinkley, etc.....when there was only one set of facts.

You don't like "alternative facts?"

2 minutes ago, WentzFan11 said:

None. Everyone is an independent. 
 

You don’t even need a platform to win an election anymore. You just need the right letter in front of your name. 

Not really sure how that would work but i'm not going to dismiss the idea.

15 minutes ago, Ipiggles said:

I dont know, call me crazy, but if I have older Patients with COVID, which is very contagious , I think the last place I would put them would be nursing homes, in with those people who are already sick and compromised. And I dont need any data on a COVID -19 research telling me the old are the most vulnerable, because they are always the most vulnerable for any contagious issue, hell the reg flu is dangerous to older sick people. 

Thats like a duh.....

It's not like infections disease control is a new thing: https://www.cdc.gov/infectioncontrol/pdf/guidelines/isolation-guidelines-H.pdf

 The need for a recommendation for Respiratory Hygiene/Cough Etiquette grew out of observations during the SARS outbreaks where failure to implement simple source control measures with patients, visitors, and healthcare personnel with respiratory symptoms may have contributed to SARS coronavirus (SARS-CoV) transmission

4 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

When they moved from hard news to commentary they clearly  stated so.

EXACTLY!!!

17 minutes ago, Bwestbrook36 said:

Damn so that makes it worse lol. 

Yup. It was a terrible pick. 
 

I never liked Fournette to begin with. Not sure how a team fell for the hype enough to pick him 4th overall. I’m glad it was the Jags. 

Getting back to Fournette for a minute, I think he has more name recognition than skill level. I don’t think he’s a good enough player to deal with the headaches (reportedly), and I certainly don’t think he’d be happy to come to Philly and play behind Sanders.

He can help form a good 1-2 punch in a power system, sorta like Jordan Howard (whom I think the Dolphins overpaid too), so I’m not saying he’s a bum.

Maybe he needed to be humbled. Maybe he just had to get out of Jacksonville. It’s fairly telling that the coaching staff hasn’t wanted him there for some time. And none of the other 31 teams would give a conditional 7 for him. 

2 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

EXACTLY!!!

We're showing our age.

4 minutes ago, Asg 15 said:

Not really sure how that would work but i'm not going to dismiss the idea.

It’s a complete overhaul to what we currently have, so it won’t really happen anyway.