1 hour ago, ManuManu said:

I'm biased as hell but I think if they stay healthy they can go all the way

49 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

I didn’t realize he had those other issues. 

Damn. Didn't know about that. Makes even more sense

Here’s my guess... 

Season starts in mid October 

4 bubbles. 8 teams in each bubble.

You probably couldn’t do one city as a bubble but perhaps a state or two? Possibly play in college or high school stadiums and limit fan attendance? 
 

Nfc East and AFC north in one bubble. Then whatever the other interconference matchups are. Or perhaps just ignore the divisions and conferences and go strictly geographical... 

9 total games. Two games against each division opponent and 3 others... 

 

I really don’t know though. Just spit balling ideas 

9 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Meh...

I stand by my months old suggestion of the NFL packing up and moving to New Zealand for the year. They are COVID free and have 16 stadiums.

27 minutes ago, TrotterIsGod said:

Surprised you haven't erected a statue of Burr.

Well, he did kill Hamilton but he was also a traitor who tried to create his own country.  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burr_conspiracy

30 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

The ones he references aren't his studies, so I would assume it's a different guy.

Its weird... because I just heard ZDogg talking about this and he said that some hospitals were trying to get it back again despite the FDA warning. Because the removal of the Emergency use, and the FDA warning were all based on these BAD studies that said it was killing people. The studies which were retracted from the peer reviewed journals.

Its a really scary thing that scientists have let their political bias impact the work they are putting out. The doctors and scientists that did this work, as well as the panel of peer reviewers are all a disgrace to the scientific community and a danger to public health. We cant be making medical decisions based on politics. I do believe there are patients with COVID benefiting from hydroxychloroquine.

I do also believe there are a few even better options out there now as fat as treatments...

42 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Lets go

Do those big mac's count against the cap?

14 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Meh...

Goodwin is a heck of a lot better than Gabriel. Im more inclined to not make any move at this point. 

It sucks to trade for a player who ends up opting out. But I understand his need to do so.

I dont know how many weeks of health Goodwin was going to give us, but I think he coulda been a big part of what we were going to do. 

 

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

Goodwin is a heck of a lot better than Gabriel.

Goodwin has played 75 games in 7 seasons.  Gabrial has played 83 games in 6 seasons.

Your best ability is availability.

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

Its weird... because I just heard ZDogg talking about this and he said that some hospitals were trying to get it back again despite the FDA warning. Because the removal of the Emergency use, and the FDA warning were all based on these BAD studies that said it was killing people. The studies which were retracted from the peer reviewed journals.

Its a really scary thing that scientists have let their political bias impact the work they are putting out. The doctors and scientists that did this work, as well as the panel of peer reviewers are all a disgrace to the scientific community and a danger to public health. We cant be making medical decisions based on politics. I do believe there are patients with COVID benefiting from hydroxychloroquine.

I do also believe there are a few even better options out there now as fat as treatments...

Anyone making up data is pretty despicable, and that goes both ways. But there are too many moderately robust controlled follow up studies out there now for me to believe it's all a political hit job IMO. Agree to disagree. 

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Goodwin is a heck of a lot better than Gabriel. Im more inclined to not make any move at this point. 

It sucks to trade for a player who ends up opting out. But I understand his need to do so.

I dont know how many weeks of health Goodwin was going to give us, but I think he coulda been a big part of what we were going to do. 

Agree to agree. He's OK but hardly someone is get excited about or pencil in for a significant role.

2 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

Goodwin is a heck of a lot better than Gabriel. Im more inclined to not make any move at this point. 

It sucks to trade for a player who ends up opting out. But I understand his need to do so.

I dont know how many weeks of health Goodwin was going to give us, but I think he coulda been a big part of what we were going to do. 

 

Yup. I think he would have been a solid role player and spot starter. That said, I hope we go young at the position and use this season as one extended preseason to find out if the WRs are good enough to be counted on in 2021. 

1 minute ago, downundermike said:

Goodwin has played 75 games in 7 seasons.  Gabrial has played 83 games in 6 seasons.

Your best ability is availability.

I mean both are important. Agholor was pretty healthy too...

Having Godwin’s rights next year for cheap isn’t so bad either. We’ll need cheap contributors if the young WRs struggle and the cap is as low as expected. 

4 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

Yup. I think he would have been a solid role player and spot starter. That said, I hope we go young at the position and use this season as one extended preseason to find out if the WRs are good enough to be counted on in 2021. 

Im not a ward guy at all and in my mind there was no room for him on our roster this year. Now, without Goodwin, Id much rather go with Ward than sign a guy like Gabriel. 

58 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

This is a throw-away year for the whole league. 

Although this isn't quite the way I'd phrase it, I think there's some truth to this. I've been thinking for awhile now that this coming season is going to be like it was in baseball and football in the early forties, when most players were off to the war and rosters were comprised of a bunch of nobodies. And you had a team like the Phil-Pitt Steagles. And the St. Louis Browns actually won a pennant. It won't be to that level, but it's going to be...different. 

I'm going to root for the guys wearing the Eagles uniforms, whoever they wind up being. 

 

Just now, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Although this isn't quite the way I'd phrase it, I think there's some truth to this. I've been thinking for awhile now that this coming season is going to be like it was in baseball and football in the early forties, when most players were off to the war and rosters were comprised of a bunch of nobodies. And you had a team like the Phil-Pitt Steagles. And the St. Louis Browns actually won a pennant. It won't be to that level, but it's going to be...different. 

I'm going to root for the guys wearing the Eagles uniforms, whoever they wind up being. 

Hopefully, there will be a year. That's my biggest hope. Once o few players opt out, the flood gates could open. I want to believe they have a season, but the NFL and MLB can't "do the bubble" like the NBA, so I am just hoping there IS a season- I am not convinced they go through with it just yet. They are trying. We'll see.

5 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

Anyone making up data is pretty despicable, and that goes both ways. But there are too many moderately robust controlled follow up studies out there now for me to believe it's all a political hit job IMO. Agree to disagree. 

Agree to agree. He's OK but hardly someone is get excited about or pencil in for a significant role.

I think the hydroxychloroquine is a medication with a ton of side effects. Some very serious ones. Even for conditions it has already been approved for it seems you have to really choose extremely carefully who you give it to.

I think in COVID cases, where they gave the drug to people as a last resort medication a lot of people died. They were about to die anyway. But also in that scenario, the risk reward ratio goes out the window. If youre going to cause blindness in a patient well... we may take that risk to save their life. If its a patient with mental health issues which may cause a worsening mental health condition... well maybe we can treat that after we save this person's life....

I think it was given freely to people who werent ideal recipients, because as a last resort medication it didnt really matter if the patient was an ideal recipient. It was a matter of life and death. And many still died.

 

I think this drug can be used carefully in an ideal patient probably before they are on their death bed. And a greater percentage of those patients will benefit. Many even without adverse side effects. 

Im not sure we are ever going to get to that point. There are probably more effective treatments already on the way. I read something about a cholesterol medication (I forget what the name of it was) seemed really good. Even more recently I even read something about some kid of seaweed... Theres probably going to be a host of safer and more effective treatments to where we dont even need to de-stigmatize the use of hydroxychloroquine. Its probably not going to be a battle worth fighting. 

 

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

So are they a 2021 cap charge then? That would suck since aren't we already in cap hell for 2021?

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

So you can pay those players the same amount of money next year.

6 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

So you can pay those players the same amount of money next year.

1 minute ago, Mike030270 said:

So are they a 2021 cap charge then? That would suck since aren't we already in cap hell for 2021?

no. whats going to happen is, Belicheck knows he wont compete without Brady this year so his highest paid players will opt out and hes going to carry over a ton of cap room to next year to add every all star he can to the roster and start winning super bowls again.

 

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

So are they a 2021 cap charge then? That would suck since aren't we already in cap hell for 2021?

But like he said, cap room this year increases that can be carried over. So it's essentially a wash

 

1 minute ago, HazletonEagle said:

no. whats going to happen is, Belicheck knows he wont compete without Brady this year so his highest paid players will opt out and hes going to carry over a ton of cap room to next year to add every all star he can to the roster and start winning super bowls again.

 

The cap room saved this year, will roll over to next year to pay the exact same salary to the opted out player.  There is no gain.