6 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

I used to post stuff from this account thinking it was somewhat creditable. Now I realize how big of a joke it is.

The receivers are just not used to lefty spin....

Here’s some pics I got last night from Tennessee at about 3:00am

Couple more

Brandon Hunt not getting the job, which would've netted the Eagles a couple 3rd rounders. But good they keep some continuity for a change.

4 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Brandon Hunt not getting the job, which would've netted the Eagles a couple 3rd rounders. But good they keep some continuity for a change.

I believe he has to specifically assume the title of General Manager to receive the draft compensation.

Wolf will effectively be their GM, but not in name which may be important.

8 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

I believe he has to specifically assume the title of General Manager to receive the draft compensation.

Wolf will effectively be their GM, but not in name which may be important.

I don’t think they would leave a loop hole that big open. No team going forward would ever hire a GM.

9 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Brandon Hunt not getting the job, which would've netted the Eagles a couple 3rd rounders. But good they keep some continuity for a change.

Hoping we add more quality talent evaluators to the mix. We lost a few throughout the years. 

8 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I don’t think they would leave a loop hole that big open. No team going forward would ever hire a GM.

New England has been skirting rules like for years; not naming coordinators so that they don’t fall under the rule where you can’t block a coordinator from interviewing for a promotional position 

8 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

New England has been skirting rules like for years; not naming coordinators so that they don’t fall under the rule where you can’t block a coordinator from interviewing for a promotional position 

They still had to follow the Rooney Rule before naming Wolf whatever they named him. It would make no sense for them to be required to follow the Rooney Rule but not for the second part of the Rooney Rule to happen. 

19 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I don’t think they would leave a loop hole that big open. No team going forward would ever hire a GM.

It’s about operational control. If you have control over the roster or the draft etc. I believe same with coordinators. So you also cant  block an OC who does y call plays from taking a job where that is offered

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

They still had to follow the Rooney Rule before naming Wolf whatever they named him. It would make no sense for them to be required to follow the Rooney Rule but not for the second part of the Rooney Rule to happen. 

All senior level executive positions require the Rooney rule

1 minute ago, pgcd3 said:

It’s about operational control. If you have control over the roster or the draft etc. I believe same with coordinators. So you also cant  block an OC who does y call plays from taking a job where that is offered

That’s how I understood it. 

2 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

All senior level executive positions require the Rooney rule

No

https://operations.nfl.com/inside-football-ops/inclusion/the-rooney-rule/

Quote

 

NFL teams are now required to interview at least two minority candidates for vacant head coach, GM and coordinator positions. One minority candidate is required for the QB coach position. 

 

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

No

https://operations.nfl.com/inside-football-ops/inclusion/the-rooney-rule/

 

This is from the site you posted:

 

"Clubs must interview a least one diverse candidate for the QB coach position or any senior level executive position at the club”

 

your quote was from a 2022 rule adjustment, 2 years ago. Below that is the section with the current rules which now includes executives

28 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

I don’t think they would leave a loop hole that big open. No team going forward would ever hire a GM.

It feels like we have already been screwed that way.

2 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

This is from the site you posted:

 

"Clubs must interview a least one diverse candidate for the QB coach position or any senior level executive position at the club”

But the Patriots had to do 2 interviews to fulfill the rule, not just one. Because it was a GM position even if the title awarded isn’t "General Manager”.

15 hours ago, eggs said:

The Eagles need a TE - remember that later this season when Goeddert is hurt and none of the other guys are a decent back-up. Oh - sounds like last year. 

Like I said uzuma has been a reliable target 

When goedert goes down one cant just expect go have a guy come off the bench and there be no drop off.

Cant think of any teams that gave a TE of goederts caliber riding the bench.

5 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

But the Patriots had to do 2 interviews to fulfill the rule, not just one. Because it was a GM position even if the title awarded isn’t "General Manager”.

Yup. They updated the rule so it's two external minority candidates.

9 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

But the Patriots had to do 2 interviews to fulfill the rule, not just one. Because it was a GM position even if the title awarded isn’t "General Manager”.

Hmm, the only sources I can find on this are from people specifically assuming the Patriots were going to name the hire General Manager.

 

6 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Hmm, the only sources I can find on this are from people specifically assuming the Patriots were going to name the hire General Manager.

 

During their search, the Patriots must comply with the Rooney Rule, which mandates they conduct at least two in-person interviews with external, minority and/or female candidates for the position, regardless of whether he or she earns the general manger title. The Patriots are not expected to use the GM title whenever they anoint a new personnel chief, having never used it under the Kraft family’s ownership.
 

https://www.bostonherald.com/2024/05/07/eagles-executive-interviewing-for-patriots-de-facto-gm-job-per-reports/amp/
 

Like @pgcd3 said it’s about control. The position, whatever they wanted to call it, has the highest power of operational control for the Patriots. 

There’s also this. There’s just no way I can see the role having that much power and responsibility, but the NFL not rewarding comp picks if they went with a minority candidate simply because the team anointed name was something other than "General Manager”.

13 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

During their search, the Patriots must comply with the Rooney Rule, which mandates they conduct at least two in-person interviews with external, minority and/or female candidates for the position, regardless of whether he or she earns the general manger title. The Patriots are not expected to use the GM title whenever they anoint a new personnel chief, having never used it under the Kraft family’s ownership.
 

https://www.bostonherald.com/2024/05/07/eagles-executive-interviewing-for-patriots-de-facto-gm-job-per-reports/amp/
 

Like @pgcd3 said it’s about control. The position, whatever they wanted to call it, has the highest power of operational control for the Patriots. 

Here is why I’m asking these semantic questions:

In 2017, Howie had the position Wolf has now. Additionally, Joe Douglas had the role of GM. The responsibility Venn diagram worked quite a bit differently than it may in NE, but had we replaced Howie with a minority candidate, would we have gotten 2 3’s? If we had replaced Joe with a minority candidate, would we have gotten 2 3’s? If we had replaced both, would we have gotten 4? Or would neither allow it because they shared too much power?

If Wolfe would have earned 2 3’s had he been a minority from another team, What if NE hires a minority GM after Wolf? Will he earn them 2 3’s? 

8 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

There’s also this. There’s just no way I can see the role having that much power and responsibility, but the NFL not rewarding comp picks if they went with a minority candidate simply because the team anointed name was something other than "General Manager”.

It seems teams generally hire our talented people to positions that are 2nd in control. It happened with Catherine Raiche, being second in charge to Andrew Berry (did we even get picks for him?). And it happened with Ian Cunningham. 

We continuously get the hockey assist with coaches and personnel people and I just think its too frequent to be a coincidence. Teams are finding ways around letting the comp picks fly. 

In a sense, the NFL created an extra hurdle for these minority candidates because its created another stepping stone they must hit before rising up the ranks completely. Teams wont hire them directly to the top roles because they dont want to give us a competitive advantage of receiving the comp picks. 

Now, these people are no longer with our organization. They will eventually get the top job, and we will get nothing. The Browns and Bears will get the picks for Cunningham and Raiche.

2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

I'm going glass overflowing with fullness and saying Becton rejuvenates his career here and is the heir apparent to Lane Johnson. He's finally joined a winning organization with a winning culture. He has the best OL coach in the game and can learn from the best RT in the game. He can fine tune his body, get healthy and become what people thought he could back during the draft. Changes the Eagles entire dynamic going forward. 

Part of me hopes him picks up RG in camp. The power, strength and size he'd bring to the line would be ridiculous. He's only here for a year so if he's an eventual Lane replacement, he'd need an healthy extension since Lane isn't retiring. If he looks reformed this year I'm sure someone is going to try and pay him. 

19 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

During their search, the Patriots must comply with the Rooney Rule, which mandates they conduct at least two in-person interviews with external, minority and/or female candidates for the position, regardless of whether he or she earns the general manger title. The Patriots are not expected to use the GM title whenever they anoint a new personnel chief, having never used it under the Kraft family’s ownership.
 

https://www.bostonherald.com/2024/05/07/eagles-executive-interviewing-for-patriots-de-facto-gm-job-per-reports/amp/
 

Like @pgcd3 said it’s about control. The position, whatever they wanted to call it, has the highest power of operational control for the Patriots. 

Manger?

The Herald needs a proofreader.