April 7Apr 7 2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Awesome. The cliche yelling at clouds was probably cathartic. I'm not saying they will work. I'm saying I trust him and we'll see. 2 minutes ago, JohnSnowsHair said: No, they don't. There are no "smart" people defending this.
April 7Apr 7 1 minute ago, vikas83 said: No, there aren't people on both sides. There's everyone who understands finance and economics saying this is stupid, and there's Trump, Navarro and Lutnick saying it's genius. That's F'ing BS and you know it. I expect better from you. If you want to get into a game of who has more? Fine. But it's not "everyone"
April 7Apr 7 3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Nobody knows at this point though many of you are certain you are right. Smart people on both sides have different opinions. It's going to happen if you like it or not. Talking crap and ****ing the entire time is tiring. No no no, no one smart is saying that these tariffs are going to be a good thing. History knows exactly how this is going to turn out if he doesn’t reverse course soon.
April 7Apr 7 1 minute ago, JohnSnowsHair said: he's in the "I didn't actually believe Trump was this dumb" category. Yeah, and those people are morons and deserve every bit of this. After seeing his mental infirmity and cravenness for 4 years, and then Jan 6, anyone who voted for him again thinking he was anything other than a complete imbecile is just simply a moron.
April 7Apr 7 Author 5 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Go by what he said and we'll save time That's a total cop out dude. I'm asking YOU what YOUR measure for success if with these tariffs. Unless you say otherwise, I'm going with "significant levels of manufacturing jobs must come back to the US" as your personal measuring stick.
April 7Apr 7 4 minutes ago, Paul852 said: How did they do that? What are you referring to? Do I need to toss in some random printing press memes
April 7Apr 7 Just now, Diehardfan said: That's F'ing BS and you know it. I expect better from you. Show me one reputable economist that thinks getting to zero trade balances with every country is possible or desirable.
April 7Apr 7 2 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: OK. Bessent wasn't successful at all. TDS is real. Bessent is mainly out of the loop on this. He wanted 10% across the board to spark discussions, and was told to leave the room.
April 7Apr 7 1 minute ago, vikas83 said: Yeah, and those people are morons and deserve every bit of this. After seeing his mental infirmity and cravenness for 4 years, and then Jan 6, anyone who voted for him again thinking he was anything other than a complete imbecile is just simply a moron. To be fair I think far less of the Branch Covidians.
April 7Apr 7 Just now, vikas83 said: Bessent is mainly out of the loop on this. He wanted 10% across the board to spark discussions, and was told to leave the room. Well, he is out there pushing them. So I guess he is a liar. Again, if you want to take the position that most think it won't work, cool. Saying "everybody" is against it just isn't true.
April 7Apr 7 1 minute ago, lynched1 said: Do I need to toss in some random printing press memes Yes, because nothing proves a point like a meme. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
April 7Apr 7 1 minute ago, Diehardfan said: Well, he is out there pushing them. So I guess he is a liar. Again, if you want to take the position that most think it won't work, cool. Saying "everybody" is against it just isn't true. Name one economist who isn't part of the administration who thinks getting to zero trade balances with every country is advisable or possible.
April 7Apr 7 17 minutes ago, lynched1 said: Your guys were far for optimistic than our guys. They were projecting slow growth for the year. Do your guys speak English more gooder than his guys too?
April 7Apr 7 Author 1 minute ago, Diehardfan said: Well, he is out there pushing them. So I guess he is a liar. Again, if you want to take the position that most think it won't work, cool. Saying "everybody" is against it just isn't true. Haven't you understood that all of his cabinet members are there to lie for him? They've all basically taken an oath and sold their souls to be on his team. Tell me you understand that. You can do that and still agree with him.
April 7Apr 7 LOL -- the moron is saying interest rates are down. They are up since he announced the tariffs.
April 7Apr 7 18 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: We actually are. The economy isn't broken because of what he is doing with tariffs. We are on the same page that Biden and his peeps fudged the numbers for a long time and it's not the great economy people thought it was. Oh ok, what numbers specifically were fudged, and what are they right now under Trump?
April 7Apr 7 2 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Name one economist who isn't part of the administration who thinks getting to zero trade balances with every country is advisable or possible. pfft, semantics
April 7Apr 7 3 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Name one economist who isn't part of the administration who thinks getting to zero trade balances with every country is advisable or possible. Does Caturd count?
April 7Apr 7 18 minutes ago, Paul852 said: Got it. So everything you refuse to believe is simply a lie. You're catching on, finally
April 7Apr 7 1 minute ago, vikas83 said: Name one economist who isn't part of the administration who thinks getting to zero trade balances with every country is advisable or possible. Nobody on the planet isn't on your side Vikas. Only smart people are against him!!!
April 7Apr 7 18 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: I could say the same for you. Guess we are at an impasse We're at an impasse with EagleVA too. You're in good company!
April 7Apr 7 1 minute ago, Diehardfan said: Nobody on the planet isn't on your side Vikas. Only smart people are against him!!! Seems like a pretty easy ask honestly. Surely one economist shouldn't be hard to find.
April 7Apr 7 Author 14 minutes ago, vikas83 said: Ackman's crying is the schadenfreude I'm here for. Nice job moron -- enjoy the consequences of your actions. @Diehardfan Do yourself a favor and click on this one and read the entire post. This guy was a BIG Trump backer endorsing him for election in '24 and donating to his campaign.
April 7Apr 7 1 minute ago, Diehardfan said: Nobody on the planet isn't on your side Vikas. Only smart people are against him!!! Plenty of retards are on Trump's side. Anyone who understands economics...not so much.
April 7Apr 7 18 minutes ago, Diehardfan said: Go by what he said and we'll save time He's specifically asked for his opinion and this is what the clown says. Then he gets mad when we call him a trumpbot.
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