1 minute ago, vikas83 said:

The only way it makes sense is if the Reddick decides that, if he isn't getting paid this year, he'd rather play for his hometown team and then hit the market this offseason. There's no way Howie gives him an extension. And I can't see Douglas flipping him back here. Also, he already is on the cap for $21.5mm in dead money this year, so adding another $14.25mm (pro rated for however many games he plays) would drive his cost to $30-35mm. The dead money is a sunk cost, but adding let's say ~$12.6mm for 15 games of Reddick means we have zero cap to roll to 2025 when we will need it.

Frankly, we'd need Reddick to be willing to play out his contract AND the Jets to eat some of his $$$. So, it ain't happening.

FO realized the issues with Reddick and traded him to the Jets, where he is making a bigger mess.  It would not be wise to bring him back to the Eagles, even if the Edges are not getting the production.  He would be a problem in the locker room and also shows to the league his behavior will be tolerated.  

8 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

That's where I am, what is Reddick even worth at this point?  If I'm a GM looking at this situation I see a guy who hasn't done any football training for most of this year and has just screwed the last team to trade for him without ever playing a snap.

The Jets can wait him out until his contract expires, at the moment he's costing them nothing, does the last year of his contract toll if he doesn't play a snap?. Because the Jets have pretty big leverage if they can say he still owes them a year.

If he sits out the whole year, then the contract tolls. He has to report by week 10 in order to avoid the contract tolling.

EDIT: I guess it is the Tuesday after week 10.

https://thejetpress.com/posts/haason-reddick-willing-extreme-lengths-avoid-ny-jets-news-01j76nvbjgn5

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Reddick can hold out until the Tuesday following Week 10. If he doesn't report by that date, his contract would toll and he would not generate an accrued season. He will report before that date.

 

1 minute ago, Penn7980 said:

FO realized the issues with Reddick and traded him to the Jets, where he is making a bigger mess.  It would not be wise to bring him back to the Eagles, even if the Edges are not getting the production.  He would be a problem in the locker room and also shows to the league his behavior will be tolerated.  

If you could do something crazy, get the Jets to eat half his contract, and have 15 games of Reddick for $6.3mm...yeah, I'd do that for a late pick. But the Jets will never do that. Reddick would have to be willing to play it out and try to put up stats to get paid (not happening), and the Jets aren't eating $6.3mm for a late round pick. Honestly, if they ate $10mm+, I'd give them their pick back (assuming Reddick reported and played, put that condition on it). But none of this will happen.

Just now, Cochis_Calhoun said:

The Jets can wait him out until his contract expires, at the moment he's costing them nothing, does the last year of his contract toll if he doesn't play a snap?. Because the Jets have pretty big leverage if they can say he still owes them a year.

Yep, it does. 

If Reddick was smart he'd show up last minute before whenever the deadline is to avoid that. But who knows if he does that or just pulls a Le'Veon Bell at this point. 

On 9/10/2024 at 10:44 AM, we_gotta_believe said:

Sounds like this new lawsuit against Watson could give the team a way to terminate the contract. Curious to see what they do.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/new-deshaun-watson-lawsuit-becomes-a-potential-problem-if-case-wasnt-disclosed-to-browns

If the NFL finds the accuser credible in this interview, the lawsuit may just be frosting on the cake. Watson could be out $92 mil. and it couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/tony-buzbee-new-deshaun-watson-accuser-will-meet-with-nfl-has-pertinent-video

4 minutes ago, Cochis_Calhoun said:

That's where I am, what is Reddick even worth at this point?  If I'm a GM looking at this situation I see a guy who hasn't done any football training for most of this year and has just screwed the last team to trade for him without ever playing a snap.

The Jets can wait him out until his contract expires, at the moment he's costing them nothing, does the last year of his contract toll if he doesn't play a snap?. Because the Jets have pretty big leverage if they can say he still owes them a year.

Reddick situation is really a shame.  Classic case of an agent getting into his client’s ear and overvaluing the market.  
 

Or even worse, his agent not being realistic with him (if this was Reddick’s doing) and advising him on what the market really was.  He should have been advised to play out the contract he signed (which was a solid contract when he signed it) and then test out the waters next season.  What a mess. 

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7 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

If you could do something crazy, get the Jets to eat half his contract, and have 15 games of Reddick for $6.3mm...yeah, I'd do that for a late pick. But the Jets will never do that. Reddick would have to be willing to play it out and try to put up stats to get paid (not happening), and the Jets aren't eating $6.3mm for a late round pick. Honestly, if they ate $10mm+, I'd give them their pick back (assuming Reddick reported and played, put that condition on it). But none of this will happen.

All due respect, why would the Jets do that?  

Just now, Ace Nova said:

All due respect, why would the Jets do that?  

As I said, they won't. 

That was the point. The only trades that make sense for us are DOA for the Jets and Reddick. That's why the last sentence is "none of this will happen." Pointing out how absurd the idea is.

30 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Maybe because all the people who have disliked Jalen Hurts for years immediately lost their minds over the play when it really wasn't that bad. And now that the film has shown it wasn't that bad, they are doubling down. 

Who said that the film didn't show it was that bad?  I saw the film.  It was that bad.   The film, if you watch the entire play, shows Goedert was WIDE OPEN for a TD while Hurts was still in the pocket.   Easy pitch and catch, and no slipping required.  But, what wasn't bad about the play again?   Was it the decision to bail on a perfect pocket?  Was it the decision to point rather than just throw the ball, telling the defenders exactly where he was planning to throw the ball?  Or was it the decision to throw the ball back across his body because by the time he actually released the ball he'd run further away from the intended target, resulting in a gross under throw that was easily picked off in the red zone?

 

The play and the decisions involved in the play can be discussed as being bad and it doesn't have to be about dislike for Hurts.  It can just be about a dislike of bad decision making from the QB.  If that play was made by any other QB for another team, I'm pretty sure there would be unanimity about the terrible decision made by the QB.  It was a bad play, and the result highlighted just how bad it was.   That many poor decisions in a single play generally lead to turnovers.  And this one did.  It was bad. 

20 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

 

Hmm... its almost like there were a number of boneheaded plays made that need to be cleaned up.   (And no, that's not exclusive to the QB.)

The question is why didn't Howie want to pay Reddick?

Does he project him to decline post 30?

Does he think he's not as good as his numbers to begin with?

Does he want to pay Reddick, but Reddick's ask was just ridiculously high?

10 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

The question is why didn't Howie want to pay Reddick?

Does he project him to decline post 30?

Does he think he's not as good as his numbers to begin with?

Does he want to pay Reddick, but Reddick's ask was just ridiculously high?

My guess is it is a combination of 1 and 3. Reddick reportedly was looking for a $25mm AAV. That's just too much for a 30 year old. Combine that with reports that players were abandoning he scheme at the end of last year and hunting for stats, and maybe that was Reddick (we thought it was Sweat, but he is back). Reddick is a weird tweener fit, and his game may not age well given his reliance on speed (though he's better against the run than he gets credit for).

I think they decided Huff for $17mm AAV was the better play -- younger, ascending, strong advanced metrics. That may have been a mistake, but I just don't think Howie was willing to go anywhere close to the numbers Reddick wanted.

He did it!

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

The question is why didn't Howie want to pay Reddick?

Does he project him to decline post 30?

Does he think he's not as good as his numbers to begin with?

Does he want to pay Reddick, but Reddick's ask was just ridiculously high?

The answer is yes to all of those questions.

There's not many 30+ year old pass rushers getting double digit sacks out there, so the Eagles are not going to pay him more than what he was already under contract for. A lot of analytics pointed to it being a better move to move on from Reddick and keep Sweat, not even considering Reddicks potential to holdout.

8 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

The question is why didn't Howie want to pay Reddick?

Does he project him to decline post 30?

Does he think he's not as good as his numbers to begin with?

Does he want to pay Reddick, but Reddick's ask was just ridiculously high?

Because Bradberry burned him

11 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Was it the decision to point rather than just throw the ball, telling the defenders exactly where he was planning to throw the ball?

The defender had his back to Hurts. It was AJ who telegraphed where the ball was going.

13 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

new TD parlay of the week

DK, CeeDee, Jonathan Taylor, Mixon

+1735

$5 to pay $91.76

 

Probably getting greedy going to a 4 legger now. But, its 5 dollars that I won last week. I withdrew the other $94. 

I play the "each team scores 1+ TD and 1+ FG in each half" on at least one game every week. Did Eagles/Packers this week. Put down $10, won $220.

2 hours ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Dustin Hoffman's performance in this is masterful.

4 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

I think the Eagles just wanted him to play the contract he signed just 2 years earlier that was a solid contract at the time.   It’s not often a free agent contract gets renegotiated in year 3.   Not to mention the fact he went from 16 sacks in his first year to 11 in 2nd year of contract.  
 

"So your performance went down from year 1 in said contract to year 2 in said contract but you want us to tear it up and pay you what?   Let’s see what you do in year 3 then we can go from there”

 

Pretty sure it went something like that. 
 

 

I'm guessing there was a number where they would have done a short extension, something in the $17-19mm AAV range. Asking for an extension going into the last year of a deal is pretty standard, and we could have further deferred cap hits with a 2 year extension that was really only a 1 year commitment. But if Reddick really wanted a $25mm AAV with multiple guaranteed years, that was never happening. 

Also, they got Sweat to redo his deal for 1 year, $9.5mm guaranteed. They were never keeping both guys. So once Sweat got that deal, Reddick was a goner. 

6 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Also, they got Sweat to redo his deal for 1 year, $9.5mm guaranteed. They were never keeping both guys. So once Sweat got that deal, Reddick was a goner. 

Pretty sure it went down like this

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

Pretty sure it went down like this

Love that scene (and movie).

I'm sure Howie was talking to both of them and was always going to get one guy signed and ship the other out of town.

4 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

The defender had his back to Hurts. It was AJ who telegraphed where the ball was going.

They all appear to be staring at Hurts the entire time, which would indicate 'zone' coverage.  Where do you get the idea that the defender's back was turned?   They were all looking at Jalen.   And the QB School showed that Alexander was looking back to the backfield, then he turned, ran to a spot and turned back to find the ball.   Sadly, he never discussed the left side of the field, or the fact that its a perfect pocket that he bailed from.

Hot takes off the 1st game on a bad field.

Let's give it a few more games before jumping to conclusions.

Huff, for example, probably didn't lose his pass rush skills over the summer.

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