12 hours ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

Hopefully freakin Hoffman

He's a free agent. He basically torpedoed his value after this post season. 

1 hour ago, 315Eagles said:

Hopefully he reflected on improving his tackling.

He's had all season to watch how not to do it from the sideline.  Hopefully he was taking notes. 

"Maddox head down missile launch technique - BAD"

"Slay patty cake arm tackle technique - BAD"

"Anything CJGJ does - BAD"

26 minutes ago, vsptroops said:

He's a free agent. He basically torpedoed his value after this post season. 

Yup.  This season raised his stock, this post-season just scuttled that.    He'll likely be back, because of how good he was during the season, but his value isn't nearly as high as it would have been had he been lights out.  He basically cost the team two games this post-season... game 1 and game 4.   And in a 5 game series, that basically costs you the series.   

12 minutes ago, rambo said:

He's had all season to watch how not to do it from the sideline.  Hopefully he was taking notes. 

"Maddox head down missile launch technique - BAD"

"Slay patty cake arm tackle technique - BAD"

"Anything CJGJ does - BAD"

 

 

1 hour ago, bpac55 said:

Oh good, they are bummed. Maybe that's a typo and Clark meant to say the Phillies are bums?

 

 

Not with a bang but a whimper.

9 minutes ago, NOTW said:

 

Baseball isn't that hard to figure out from a roster building perspective.  Pitching, pitching, pitching.  Build a starting rotation with 2 aces and solid 3-4 starters, and get a premier backend bullpen to lock down the 8th and 9th innings to shorten the game.  When Madson and Lidge were on, the Phillies just needed to get to the 7th inning with the lead.  Romero was also excellent for awhile as a 7th inning guy.  Zac Wheeler needs a #2, and Aaron Nola is not that guy.  He reminds me of when the Flyers wasted a lot of the Eric Lindros years thinking Eric Desjardins was a #1 defenceman, when he wasn't even a top-pairing D-man on any championship-caliber team; he was a 3-4 defenceman.  The Phillies should be able to find guys who can hit 40 HR in CBP without striking out 200 times a year like Schwarber does.

Football is more difficult.  The current game is built to favor the offense, so you need an over-performing QB on a rookie deal or a true elite QB on a mega deal.  The Eagles have the right philosophy in some ways -- build through the trenches and keep the OL and DL strong, build the talent on offense to be a top 5 unit, and hopefully the defense is good enough not to hold you back.  I don't agree with their philosophy of going 20+ years without drafting defensive back seven, though.  That has burned them for quite awhile now.

  

15 minutes ago, just relax said:

Not with a bang but a whimper.

Yup.  They went gently into that good night.  They did not rage against the dying of the light.

The playoff format in MLB does not give the teams with byes an advantage.  All four bye teams split their first two at home this year.

We lost to the Mets in the same fashion we eliminated the Braves twice. The Dodgers have been bounced twice.

Hitting depends on timing and having five days off before the most important games of the season while your opponent is staying sharp isn't an advantage.

 

37 minutes ago, NOTW said:

 

That embarrassment changed them forever 

38 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

The playoff format in MLB does not give the teams with byes an advantage.  All four bye teams split their first two at home this year.

We lost to the Mets in the same fashion we eliminated the Braves twice. The Dodgers have been bounced twice.

Hitting depends on timing and having five days off before the most important games of the season while your opponent is staying sharp isn't an advantage.

This is true... and yet, it didn't affect the Astros very much over the years.   I'm not going to blame the format for what happened though.   This was the same ending as the last two years, the only difference is which round their bats went cold in.   But, each of the last two years, they couldn't hit their way out of a paper bag by the end of the run.  They got no hit in the WS against the Astros two years ago.   And the DBacks decided that only Schwarber and Harper were going to beat them, so they pitched around them and pitched to everyone else... and let them swing themselves out of the series.  

7 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

This is true... and yet, it didn't affect the Astros very much over the years.   I'm not going to blame the format for what happened though.   This was the same ending as the last two years, the only difference is which round their bats went cold in.   But, each of the last two years, they couldn't hit their way out of a paper bag by the end of the run.  They got no hit in the WS against the Astros two years ago.   And the DBacks decided that only Schwarber and Harper were going to beat them, so they pitched around them and pitched to everyone else... and let them swing themselves out of the series.  

Well, I mean it does help when you're cheating, banging on trash cans, and know what pitch is coming.

2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

Well, I mean it does help when you're cheating, banging on trash cans, and know what pitch is coming.

Sure.  But that was before the new format.  So, I'm going to just believe that there are other ways for the teams with the bye to prepare and deal with the layoff.  OR... MLB will just add two more wild card teams and the teams getting the bye now will meet them in a 3 game series, the same as the other teams.   Maybe that will mean more money and make everyone happy...      They will never go back.

 

BUT, I'll also say this... the Phillies shouldn't need more than a game or two to get their timing back.  And they were in position to win game 1, but the bullpen couldn't hold the lead (though narrow).  And they hit worse in Games 3 and 4 because that's just who they are at times... 

12 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Sure.  But that was before the new format.  So, I'm going to just believe that there are other ways for the teams with the bye to prepare and deal with the layoff.  OR... MLB will just add two more wild card teams and the teams getting the bye now will meet them in a 3 game series, the same as the other teams.   Maybe that will mean more money and make everyone happy...      They will never go back.

 

BUT, I'll also say this... the Phillies shouldn't need more than a game or two to get their timing back.  And they were in position to win game 1, but the bullpen couldn't hold the lead (though narrow).  And they hit worse in Games 3 and 4 because that's just who they are at times... 

There is no part of me that believes the Astros stopped cheating.

2 hours ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Yep, all good here. Storm went up North enough for us that it wasn’t anything too bad. 

That's an odd move

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

That's an odd move

Maybe they figured out that Grant Calcutta isn't a good blocker.  

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Yup.  They went gently into that good night.  They did not rage against the dying of the light.

...full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

4 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

That's an odd move

You don't like having 5 TE on the active roster and practice squad?

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

You don't like having 5 TE on the active roster and practice squad?

And a 6th that will be coming back

15 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

@just relax

I texted @mattwill this morning and so far have not gotten a reply.

1 hour ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

The playoff format in MLB does not give the teams with byes an advantage.  All four bye teams split their first two at home this year.

We lost to the Mets in the same fashion we eliminated the Braves twice. The Dodgers have been bounced twice.

Hitting depends on timing and having five days off before the most important games of the season while your opponent is staying sharp isn't an advantage.

 

The bye week is not why the Phillies lost this series. I’ve said this in the Phillies thread since they went to Colorado and San Francisco in late May they have not had consistent hitting especially if they weren’t hitting HRs. Their inability to hit with RISP consistently popped up time and time again. They never got themselves back to where they had consistent hitting like they did in April and May. Go look from that Rockies And San Francisco series onward. They were like the 12th best offense. Furthermore when they got back from that road trip. They swept the brewers which was awesome. except the only scored 7 runs in those 3 games. That’s essentially what they have been for stretches with 2-3 game pockets where they have explosions then go back to being inconsistent.
 

At the end of August they got hot again. They still didn’t hit consistently with runners in scoring position. Got hit the last two games at the royals. The last two royals games 12-27 (.444). Next 9 games 13-78 (.167). Next 3 games vs. marlins 17-37. next 10 games 13-64 (.203). First two games vs. Mets 9-24 in citi field (.375). Next 8 games 9-51 (.176) (if you include the playoffs in with the last 8 games they would be 15-82 (.183)). 

The reason the Phillies lost was the arrogance they showed after last year‘s NLCS. They felt like it was a fluke that they lost and that their blueprint wouldn’t work as soon as they fixed their chase rate problem. Running it back was never the solution and long wasn’t fixing that problem. It’s the same reason marsh has the same issues since we traded for him and stott regressed and bohm basically became stott his last 70 games of the season. Furthermore as the season went on their chase rate got worse from August 1 onward. they were the worst team in baseball with Chase rate the last 2months of the year.  They were at 32% those two months. So this has been a problem since August with their chase rate. I posted a tweet with analytical graphs on the Phillies thread showing the last 10 weeks it progressively got worse and worse. Your bad habits are your bad habits. You’re eventually always going to return to the habits that you have built up over the course of time. The only way it’s changing is if you get a new coach in there with a different approach and get new players in there that don’t have that approach. You have too many guys on this team that are free swinging guys and not enough guys like Reese Hoskins and Jean Segura that will see a lot of pitches and make pictures work. They don’t have those grinders anymore that they had in 2022. Scott was supposed to become that Jean Segura. He hasn’t. They never actually replaced Hoskins’ production. Hoskins was supposed to be with  Turner. Not  Turner replacing Hoskins. You were supposed to have both in 2023. The decision that they thought Hoskins’ approach and production wasn’t needed turned out bad. Imo you probably win the 2023 NLCS with hoskins cause he very could’ve been the difference in game 3 or 4 where they needed another bat and his approach may have gotten him or another guy a mistake pitch  

The only part of this team I think that might have been affected by the bye week is the bullpen because they tend to throw on a routine every single day. Time off they have to get back into a routine. But frankly i think pressure of having to be perfect cause the offense stunk hurt them more. The starters were fine. Although I’d argue Nola’s last two playoff starts he’s failed to live up to his paycheck. he’s failed to go 6 innings in either. His era is 7.71 and opponents are hitting .290 with a 1.041 OPS. 

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

The bye week is not why the Phillies lost this series. I’ve said this in the Phillies thread since they went to Colorado and San Francisco in late May they have not had consistent hitting especially if they weren’t hitting HRs. Their inability to hit with RISP consistently popped up time and time again. They never got themselves back to where they had consistent hitting like they did in April and May. Go look from that Rockies And San Francisco series onward. They were like the 12th best offense. Furthermore when they got back from that road trip. They swept the brewers which was awesome. except the only scored 7 runs in those 3 games. That’s essentially what they have been for stretches with 2-3 game pockets where they have explosions then go back to being inconsistent.
 

At the end of August they got hot again. They still didn’t hit consistently with runners in scoring position. Got hit the last two games at the royals. The last two royals games 12-27 (.444). Next 9 games 13-78 (.167). Next 3 games vs. marlins 17-37. next 10 games 13-64 (.203). First two games vs. Mets 9-24 in citi field (.375). Next 8 games 9-51 (.176) (if you include the playoffs in with the last 8 games they would be 15-82 (.183)). 

The reason the Phillies lost was the arrogance they showed after last year‘s NLCS. They felt like it was a fluke that they lost and that their blueprint wouldn’t work as soon as they fixed their chase rate problem. Running it back was never the solution and long wasn’t fixing that problem. It’s the same reason marsh has the same issues since we traded for him and stott regressed and bohm basically became stott his last 70 games of the season. Furthermore as the season went on their chase rate got worse from August 1 onward. they were the worst team in baseball with Chase rate the last 2months of the year.  They were at 32% those two months. So this has been a problem since August with their chase rate. I posted a tweet with analytical graphs on the Phillies thread showing the last 10 weeks it progressively got worse and worse.

The only part of this team I think that might have been affected by the bye week is the bullpen because they tend to throw on a routine every single day. Time off they have to get back into a routine. But frankly i think pressure of having to be perfect cause the offense stunk hurt them more. The starters were fine. Although I’d argue Nola’s last two playoff starts he’s failed to live up to his paycheck. he’s failed to go 6 innings in either. His era is 7.71 and opponents are hitting .290 with a 1.041 OPS. 

A big thing that messed them up IMO

11 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

A big thing that messed them up IMO

I would say that didn’t help them. I actually think it helped the Mets more. I think that Alvarado blown save in game 2 in London is the day when the Mets began really believing they could turn it around and win.

the Phillies were 59-56 from at colorado. Even after that road trip when they came home and faced the Cardinals, they didn’t look consistent on offense . They were inconsistent offensively. They had two games that they look good and then they looked really bad offensively for the next four. And then went to London. whatever happened when they went out to Colorado, they just were never the same offensively after that and their chase rate really came back in August. It progressively got worse as the season went on

The reason why their lineup has been way more inconsistent than it was even in 2022 is because they don’t have the replacement for hoskins that can consistently hit with runners scoring position. In 2022 Hoskins hit 292 with RISP. Add on you don’t have the grinders anymore besides Harper and schwarber when he’s locked in. Hoskins and Jean Segura saw lot of pitches per bat. Even when they slumped, they usually saw a lot of pitches. In the playoffs, you cannot have innings where you see six pitches or seven pitches or even five pitches and expect to have success. They thought when they sign Turner, it was going to be a lineup with Hoskins in it. Not Turner just replacing Hoskins. You have been a bat short for 2 years and their solutions have been garbage. Castro was garbage (and that trade even though minor looks even worse as walker and every 5th starter after turnbull was a disaster and falter was a solid 4/5th starter for the pirates). Whit Merrifield was garbage. Austin Hays has not had a single Fing walk in his time in Philadelphia. Jean was supposed to be replaced by a young better Stott. Stott regressed. They still haven’t replaced the production lost by Rhys and his ability to make pitchers work