35 minutes ago, just relax said:

Hate it. Despise it. Then again, I hate the designated hitter too.

Agreed on all points.   9 players field, 9 players bat.  Simple.  It forces actual THINKING by the manager and strategically deciding when to pull the pitcher who is hot for a batter to try to get a big inning.   With the DH there are very few thoughts going on, and the pitcher can just pitch until they are exhausted.  Gone are the days of the double switch.   It's just not as good or thought provoking.

Just now, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Hockenson got traded a few years ago after the Lions drafted him high.

No RB and no TE works out in the top 20.

I’d never take a tight end in the first round. We had this discussion on the blog when Kyle Pitts came out and there were a lot of people who loved Pitts. The numbers showed more often than not the pick doesn’t match the value of where he’s taken. That said I’d take a chance on Pitts if Atlanta is willing to deal him for a 5th with conditions that could be more if he meets the criteria. They aren’t picking up his 5th year option. I also think they’d unload. 

16 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

Hershel Walker is 92.  1985 is Earnest Jackson.  The team drafted Byars the following year.  

Yup.

1 minute ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Agreed on all points.   9 players field, 9 players bat.  Simple.  It forces actual THINKING by the manager and strategically deciding when to pull the pitcher who is hot for a batter to try to get a big inning.   With the DH there are very few thoughts going on, and the pitcher can just pitch until they are exhausted.  Gone are the days of the double switch.   It's just not as good or thought provoking.

I agree with you guys that I would like the pitcher in the National League to bat. However, I also know that in 2022, if they didn’t have the DH then Bryce Harper would’ve been done for the year (good portion of 2023 too) and they don’t make the World Series.

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Amazing that aj brown is just about 90 yards away from top 5 even though he missed 3.5 games and has significantly less targets than everyone ahead of him besides Nico Collins who missed over a month 

 

On one hand... that's horrible for someone with his contract and talent

On the other hand... Barkley has been playing amazing that we don't throw the ball

Take that AI!

 

47 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Since you guys are talking about baseball…

 

thoughts? 

Horrendous article for a horrendous rule, what a slog of a read.

Author tries to say that since the pitch clock rule worked that this would be ok. The pitch clock was 100% necessary because the game had changed to a point where it took 3 Fing hours because at bats were taking forever with pitchers and hitters both doing stupid ish after every single pitch. 

Idiotic rule, throw it in the all star game sure no one gives a F. But to do that during the regular season or playoffs would be atrocious. Maybe make the most of the at bats you're given during the rest of the game. This turns a team sport into an individual one

6 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I know this isn’t a topic for right now, but I could totally see the Atlanta Falcons trading Kyle Pitts away this off-season.  he’s a free agent at the end of 2026. They aren’t likely to pay him as he had a nice 4 game stretch and then kind of reverted back to what he’s been the last couple years. I could totally see the Eagles being involved in a trade if the compensation for him is cheap enough. take a gamble on him for a year. Potentially getting the capital back as a compensatory pick the following year if they let him walk or if he hits being goedert’s long term replacement.

Agreed — it would make sense from a personnel planning level and would be very in character for Howie. He’s also a Philly native, so we might have a home town draw for him.

There is an issue is from a scheme fit — he’s not a great blocker. That’s one thing about Goedert… he’s huge and athletic as a receiver, but he is also a bully in the run game.

You’d have to do some projection with Pitts. He’s only about 240 pounds. Can he be an inline TE for a power running team like ours? Or does he become the permanent slot receiver? If the latter, then you’re back to looking for a replacement for Dallas, even if you can invest less because all you need is a blocker.

23 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

I didn't realize @RememberTheKoy is actually Keyshawn Johnson.

Can you imagine some former player posting here to mess with Eagles fans? Like some random Cowboys or Giants player who hates the Eagles? 

8 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I agree with you guys that I would like the pitcher in the National League to bat. However, I also know that in 2022, if they didn’t have the DH then Bryce Harper would’ve been done for the year (good portion of 2023 too) and they don’t make the World Series.

And frankly, I'd have been fine with that.  As they say, "that's baseball."   Injuries happen and are part of the game.  I prefer no DH to the Phillies benefitting from having a DH.  I've always been against the DH, even in the AL.   Never liked it, never will, even in the cases where the Phillies might benefit.

35 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

On one hand... that's horrible for someone with his contract and talent

On the other hand... Barkley has been playing amazing that we don't throw the ball

I’ve brought this up with some stats the other day, there’s times where the eagles just simply forget about him for stretches of the game. They also don’t really look to him in the red zone all that much. AJ has played 9 games and has 4 red zone targets. Barkley is awesome and has taken some of the targets away he’d see later in games. But there’s times early in the game where we are just struggling and don’t really look to him to help jump start the offense. For instance the ravens game: you had the initial saquon run. Then pass to Campbell, run with Shipley and then a pass to covey. Second series had run with Barkley, incomplete pass by hurts that was caused by DL then finally a pass to aj. So essentially 6 plays before they decided to try to get aj involved. Then he has 0 targets for an entire half. I really don’t believe the ravens pass defense which has been awful is remotely good enough to shut him down for a half without a target or that was their top priority heading into the game with how we’ve been winning games. Frankly with how top WRs have torched them consistently, their scheme or personnel isn’t good enough to do it 

19 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

First thought is Campbell

But Kevin O'Connell has the freaking Vikings 10-2 with Sam Darnold

There are a lot of quality candidates this year. The two you mentioned, I would also throw out Tomlin, Payton and Jim Harbuagh (to a lesser extent but deserves to be brought up).

Just now, Iggles_Phan said:

And frankly, I'd have been fine with that.  As they say, "that's baseball."   Injuries happen and are part of the game.  I prefer no DH to the Phillies benefitting from having a DH.  I've always been against the DH, even in the AL.   Never liked it, never will, even in the cases where the Phillies might benefit.

Idk about that. Wouldn’t have had bedlam at the bank. That’s an iconic moment. I wouldn’t trade that even for Pitchers hitting. 

10 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I’d never take a tight end in the first round. We had this discussion on the blog when Kyle Pitts came out and there were a lot of people who loved Pitts. The numbers showed more often than not the pick doesn’t match the value of where he’s taken. That said I’d take a chance on Pitts if Atlanta is willing to deal him for a 5th with conditions that could be more if he meets the criteria. They aren’t picking up his 5th year option. I also think they’d unload. 

The issue is if you take a TE that high, you need to commit to them as your primary target in the passing game.

Thats why the Raiders look so smart with Bowers — they just throw him the ball every play. Pitts went to a zone running team which didn’t have a QB. Terrible fit for him and they shouldn’t be surprised he seems like a disappointment.

If he came to the eagles he would be the 3rd receiving option in a power running offense. I like him as the slot receiver/move TE in 12 personnel.

If we get him, does that change our outlook on the base offense? We could put a huge lineup on the field with Pitts and a blocking TE. That would cause some issues for DC’s picking their poison with matchups. 

9 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Can you imagine some former player posting here to mess with Eagles fans? Like some random Cowboys or Giants player who hates the Eagles? 

Bacarty was Ben Rothelisberger the whole time!

8 minutes ago, TEW said:

The issue is if you take a TE that high, you need to commit to them as your primary target in the passing game.

Thats why the Raiders look so smart with Bowers — they just throw him the ball every play. Pitts went to a zone running team which didn’t have a QB. Terrible fit for him and they shouldn’t be surprised he seems like a disappointment.

If he came to the eagles he would be the 3rd receiving option in a power running offense. I like him as the slot receiver/move TE in 12 personnel.

If we get him, does that change our outlook on the base offense? We could put a huge lineup on the field with Pitts and a blocking TE. That would cause some issues for DC’s picking their poison with matchups. 

Bowers has been more of the exception than what’s been happening with guys at the position taken top 20 of the draft. I’d add the raiders are usually playing from behind and limited on weapons. It’s him and Meyers. so he and Meyers are always going to see more targets as they are two most talented and playing from behind in almost all their games. Other issue is Atlanta drafted Bijan and London high so you have 3 guys top half of the draft you always have to get involved. Frankly Atlanta should’ve never taken Bijan in the top 10. They should’ve taken Jalen Carter. 

2 hours ago, TEW said:

I don’t think there is a "next” Becton. That’s kind of the point. There are basically 3 guys in the NFL who are worth a damn at this size — Becton and Mailata are two of them.

Bechton wasn’t 4 months ago though

4 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

Idk about that. Wouldn’t have had bedlam at the bank. That’s an iconic moment. I wouldn’t trade that even for Pitchers hitting. 

It was a great moment, and without Harper's contributions in those playoffs, his signing would be a big red flag because of that injury.  BUT... I put my preference for how the game should be played versus specific benefits to the Phillies.   As much as I am a Phillies fan, I like baseball for baseball.   I don't watch nearly as much as I used to, because of the rule changes and the changes to the style of play.   The home run or strikeout mentality really ruins the game for me.  I miss the sacrifice bunt, sac fly, hitting behind runners, hit and runs, double switches, etc.  You know, all the strategy of the game.   That is missing and its hurt my enjoyment of the sport, no matter what the ratings and revenue might be.   I, personally, enjoy it far less.

Just now, TEW said:

The issue is if you take a TE that high, you need to commit to them as your primary target in the passing game.

Thats why the Raiders look so smart with Bowers — they just throw him the ball every play. Pitts went to a zone running team which didn’t have a QB. Terrible fit for him and they shouldn’t be surprised he seems like a disappointment.

If he came to the eagles he would be the 3rd receiving option in a power running offense. I like him as the slot receiver/move TE in 12 personnel.

If we get him, does that change our outlook on the base offense? We could put a huge lineup on the field with Pitts and a blocking TE. That would cause some issues for DC’s picking their poison with matchups. 

For those reasons, I can't see them addressing TE with a very high draft pick.  They already have a competent pass catcher in Calcaterra that, more importantly, Hurts is willing to throw to.  He isn't very good as the in-line blocking TE, but is good as the wing/move blocking TE.  Getting a complementary TE in the Celek mold would suffice.

Expect early picks on the lines considering they didn't do it last draft.

20 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I know this isn’t a topic for right now, but I could totally see the Atlanta Falcons trading Kyle Pitts away this off-season.  he’s a free agent at the end of 2026. They aren’t likely to pay him as he had a nice 4 game stretch and then kind of reverted back to what he’s been the last couple years. I could totally see the Eagles being involved in a trade if the compensation for him is cheap enough. take a gamble on him for a year. Potentially getting the capital back as a compensatory pick the following year if they let him walk or if he hits being goedert’s long term replacement.

He's from Warminster.  I don't know if the Eagles seriously scouted him.  I think the problem if you trade for him is that they would have to consider paying him.  I don't think he would be worth it when Goedert is still going to be under contract in 2025.  There are also likely to be options available in the draft. 

31 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

First thought is Campbell

But Kevin O'Connell has the freaking Vikings 10-2 with Sam Darnold

Yeah O'Connell is more deserving just based on the fact that the Lions success is far more dependent on Ben Johnson than Campbell. 

8 minutes ago, NCiggles said:

He's from Warminster.  I don't know if the Eagles seriously scouted him.  I think the problem if you trade for him is that they would have to consider paying him.  I don't think he would be worth it when Goedert is still going to be under contract in 2025.  There are also likely to be options available in the draft. 

I look at it more this way, if you’re able to get him for a 5th round pick with conditions He needs to meet added onto it, I’m willing to take that chance. Dallas goedert is going to miss time at some point next year. So if Kyle Pitts goes off next year, I can either pay him because he’s good enough to pay at that point. Or I can just let him go into FA. If he plays that well he’s gonna get paid and you’re gonna get a compensatory third round pick the following year. So you either have him long term or he leaves and you get draft capital back down the road. Even if he doesn’t pan out it’s a late round pick.

can see Howie thinking if the price is right that he’s a saquon type player (obviously not mvp caliber just uber talented player) that needs a new scenery. 

3 minutes ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Yeah O'Connell is more deserving just based on the fact that the Lions success is far more dependent on Ben Johnson than Campbell. 

Really curious how Dan Campbell does once Johnson goes. 

3 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

For those reasons, I can't see them addressing TE with a very high draft pick.  They already have a competent pass catcher in Calcaterra that, more importantly, Hurts is willing to throw to.  He isn't very good as the in-line blocking TE, but is good as the wing/move blocking TE.  Getting a complementary TE in the Celek mold would suffice.

Expect early picks on the lines considering they didn't do it last draft.

Brent Celek is so underappreciated for his receiving abilities.  He became a great blocker, but he was actually a far better receiving threat than most people remember.

He had nearly 1000 yards in 2009 and one of the greatest receptions for a TE in Eagles' history in the epic comeback versus the Giants.   When Ertz came in with Chip's love of all players from the PAC-10, Celek was quickly relegated to TE2 status, but when needed, he was still there as a receiver.  He was a much more complete TE to Ertz.  He really was what most people think Goedert is or should be... and more durable.

20 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

There are a lot of quality candidates this year. The two you mentioned, I would also throw out Tomlin, Payton and Jim Harbuagh (to a lesser extent but deserves to be brought up).

I actually think Campbell is less of a candidate. He’s doing pretty much what he did in 2023, just with a better roster. Sirianni won’t win but I’d say what he’s doing in 2024 after 2023 should get more acclaim.

Jim Harbaugh, KOC, McDermott I think are the big candidates to me. Buffalo lost a lot of talent this offseason and somehow became a better team