2 minutes ago, vikas83 said:

If they could have called a TO, then I see more logic. Try and draw them offsides, and maybe as you said take advantage of the Packers relaxing at the end of the play clock. But without that threat...it's just stupid, IMO. He is very lucky Goff was able to make the handoff after being tripped and no d-lineman touched him.

I would’ve kicked it on fourth down. I think it was reckless and potentially ended in disaster because Jared Goff fell down. If a Packers player was there and touched him, they would’ve gone to overtime or the Packers would have a time to try to get into FG range.

I’ve said this in past weeks, the new unintended consequences of the new kickoff rule is that if you start at the 30, it’s 5 yards less to get into field-goal range. I’ve seen teams with 30 to 40 seconds and no timeouts get 25 to 30 yards and have the ability to at least attempt a game tying or game-winning field goal. So I’m guessing if they asked him that probably also played a part in his decision to do that. I still would’ve kicked it on 4th down and hope that my defense wasn’t bad enough that we could hold the packers from getting into FG range. 

6 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

If I could turn $3.1 million to $3.542 million in 3 hours I'd consider it.

 

At the risk of losing $3.1 million in 3 hours?

 

10 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

If I could turn $3.1 million to $3.542 million in 3 hours I'd consider it.

 

U must have missed the crypto discussion. Apparently easy money. 

14 minutes ago, Freshmilk said:

If I could turn $3.1 million to $3.542 million in 3 hours I'd consider it.

 

Its worse than that. $3.1 million is after tax dollars so it might represent $5mm to $6mm. The $442k will then get taxed down to $250k to $300k. Compare this to continuing to float $5.5mm in the market for a year in FTEs. That should return about $400k. Even if you just put the $3.1mm in the market, you still safely increase by $250k with conservative equities.  I am going to name this, the bet, the Dan Campbell Investment Strategy.

5 minutes ago, e-a-g-l-e-s eagles! said:

I would’ve kicked it on fourth down. I think it was reckless and potentially ended in disaster because Jared Goff fell down. If a Packers player was there and touched him, they would’ve gone to overtime or the Packers would have a time to try to get into FG range.

I’ve said this in past weeks, the new unintended consequences of the new kickoff rule is that if you start at the 30, it’s 5 yards less to get into field-goal range. I’ve seen teams with 30 to 40 seconds and no timeouts get 25 to 30 yards and have the ability to at least attempt a game tying or game-winning field goal. So I’m guessing if they asked him that probably also played a part in his decision to do that. I still would’ve kicked it on 4th down and hope that my defense wasn’t bad enough that we could hold the packers from getting into FG range. 

Yep. And on the previous drive Packers had a 29 yard pass to Watson, 26 yard pass to Wicks and another 12 yard pass to Wicks. The clock was :43 on the 4th down so Packers get the ball back with about 40 seconds left to go. 

34 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

Dang, you scared me for an instant before I realized you were talking about SYDNEY Brown, not the Brown who actually matters.

Not going to lie, I did the same thing  

54 minutes ago, FranklinFldEBUpper said:

About 87% at 35 yards vs 80% at 40 yards. Perhaps higher now because kickers are better now than they were a generation ago when those numbers were created. And slightly higher still because it’s indoors. But the delta of seven percent probably still holds. 

Interesting. Bigger gap than I thought. Yeah I wonder if it's dropped at all in recent years, but still has to be counter weighted against the success rate on 4th and 1 conversions which is somewhere in the ballpark of 60-70% I believe. In other words, there's a 30-40% chance that they give the ball back to GB at the 20 in a tie game, thereby leaving GB only needing to gain 40 yds for a chance to win the game, instead of tying the game. The closer GB gets, the higher the chance they win the game based on FG distance. Whereas if the Lions kick the FG on 4th to go up by 3, the chances they lose the game are lower, with equivalent chances of them tying the game. I'm sure there are sites somewhere that are laying out al the numbers in detail. On a call now, but when I have some time after I'll see if I can find any.

3 minutes ago, paco said:

Not going to lie, I did the same thing  

I should have clarified Jatavis Brown won't be playing. 

2 hours ago, HazletonEagle said:

I cant see the Lions, with 1 real receiving threat (St Brown) having enough to beat us. And the defensive effort against the packers... not nearly enough against our offense. 

Packers look like an easy win. Lions right now look like a double digit win for us as well. 

Id only be a bit afraid of the Bucs just because they have our number lately. BUT, we should beat them too. 

Jameson Williams is certainly a threat, as is LaPorta. As Nick has been saying in post-games, they ain't done ish. This is not the time to be smelling yourself. I'm going to the game Sunday, and I want to watch them take Bryce Young's confidence, his dignity, and his soul.

1 minute ago, we_gotta_believe said:

Interesting. Bigger gap than I thought. Yeah I wonder if it's dropped at all in revent years, but still has to be counter weighted against the success rate on 4th and 1 conversions which is somewhere in the ballpark of 60-70% I believe. In other words, there's a 30-40% chance that they give the ball back to GB at the 20 in a tie game, thereby leaving GB only needing to gain 40 yds for a chance to win the game, instead of tying the game. The closer GB gets, the higher the chance they win the game based on FG distance. Whereas if the Lions kick the FG on 4th to go up by 3, the chances they lose the game are lower, with equivalent chances of them tying the game. I'm sure there are sites somewhere that are laying out al the numbers in detail. On a call now, but when I have some time after I'll see if I can find any.

 

1 minute ago, Outlaw said:

Jameson Williams is certainly a threat, as is LaPorta. As Nick has been saying in post-games, they ain't done ish. This is not the time to be smelling yourself. I'm going to the game Sunday, and I want to watch them take Bryce Young's confidence, his dignity, and his soul.

Jalen Hurts squats 4 Bryce Youngs

6 hours ago, mikemack8 said:

I tried last night but my wife said she wasn't selling 😞 

Maybe if you couldn't braid your pyubes and it didn't smell like bigfoot's deek down there, your wife might entertain the idea of a little Thursday night throatblast sesh.  

Covey is also Out along with the other three of Goedert, Blakenship and of course, a Brown. 

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

That's the result, but I was looking for one that laid out the math, variable by variable based on FG distance, field position, etc. In any case, it's close enough to illustrate the overarching point. Dumb decision by Campbell.

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Covey is also Out along with the other three of Goedert, Blakenship and of course, a Brown. 

Blakenship so deep in concussion protocol he doesn't know his own name. 

To clarify the success rate estimate from my previous post, the 4th and 1 conversion rate for conventional running plays is 63%. For QB sneaks, it's 83%, which begs the question as to why Ben Johnson is so averse to having Goff sneak it on some of these 4th and 1 situations, and should be a reminder to all Eagles fans as to how valuable the higher conversion rate the tush push provides and how it can easily be the difference in winning and losing in games like last night's.

https://sports.sites.yale.edu/success-short-yardage-play-types-fourth-down#:~:text=If there are no defenders,time for 4th and 1.

Play Type	Conversion Rate
Quarterback Sneaks	82.8%
Non-Quarterback Running plays	63.4%
All Non-Sneaks	62.0%

 

15 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Jalen Hurts squats 4 Bryce Youngs

Saquon probably 5-6. I'm dying for some white on white crime with Coop laying out Thielen.

4 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

More importantly, they might just be the more dangerous team FOR THE EAGLES.  And frankly, that's the only matchup that matters to me.

In concept I agree with you, but I am having a hard time reconciling that concept with the characteristics/skills of the actual Bucs team.  Why are they the most dangerous team for the Eagles?

3 hours ago, RLC said:

Any given Sunday and all that. I think we're clearly a top 3 team in the league (Lions, Bills). Still, having to force one on the road and likely the other on a neutral field is a big ask. Not impossible, just hard. 

Our offense doesn't even matchup well with their defense.

Why on a neutral field?

16 hours ago, gameshowfan91 said:

F YOU PACKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

given your hot topic take, the packers probably go to the SB

17 minutes ago, jsb235 said:

Blakenship so deep in concussion protocol he doesn't know his own name. 

This is serious....nothing to make fun of!  They have been testing him, when the ask him what his name is, he replies Cooper.  Not a laughing matter!

9 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

Haven't heard much detail about Sydney Brown's knee. Is it the same knee he tore up? Wonder if he rushed it and it's just sore now or if it's completely unrelated. Still trying to figure out what his role on this team should be this year and moving forward. 

1 hour ago, vikas83 said:

To be clear, Campbell's decision to go for it from his own 31 with just over a minute remaining in the 3rd quarter, while leading 24-21, was significantly dumber. He gifted the Packers a TD and a 4th quarter lead. It's that hubris that is going to cost him in the playoffs.

Since they couldn't call timeout on the last one, and had to snap it, it was remarkably reckless and just a dumb decision as well.

Dan Campbell is just a moron going for every 4th down because he's biting kneecaps. And it's going to get him bounced from the playoffs just like it did last year.

We have the coaching advantage with Sirianni vs. Campbell lol.