June 5Jun 5 39 minutes ago, Paul852 said:I'm guessing Elon's interns are getting the boot soon. Like I said......failure.Elon was just a figure head, Doge is still alive!
June 6Jun 6 16 hours ago, DrPhilly said:It is quite natural for a "both sider" to be focused on Trump right now. Certainly even you can understand that. Did you just sleep you the many years of posts I've made that were anti-left, anit-woke, and anti-DEM?You are not "focused on Trump" you are obsessed with him. You seize upon every liberal headline, no matter how ridiculous it is and endlessly post about it. You regularly refer to anyone here to doesn't hate Trump with the same fervor that you have as stupid. These are not the actions of a centrist questioning policy, these are the actions of a partisan.
June 6Jun 6 1 minute ago, The Norseman said:You are not "focused on Trump" you are obsessed with him. You seize upon every liberal headline, no matter how ridiculous it is and endlessly post about it. You regularly refer to anyone here to doesn't hate Trump with the same fervor that you have as stupid.These are not the actions of a centrist questioning policy, these are the actions of a partisan.That's complete bullsheet. Point to 5 posts where I've just seized on a liberal headline. Half the stuff I post is from Fox News.I don't use the term stupid very often in here so that is also poppy C. I will say an opinion is stupid but I'm not the one typically calling others stupid. I'm not saying I haven't done that but it is fairly rare. I think you are confusing me with another poster (or several). You clearly have no idea about my general posting history since you didn't even know I was a "both sider" and I'm typically the poster called out for being the most extreme both sider.
June 6Jun 6 1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:That's complete bullsheet. Point to 5 posts where I've just seized on a liberal headline. Half the stuff I post is from Fox News.I don't use the term stupid very often in here so that is also poppy C. I will say an opinion is stupid but I'm not the one typically calling others stupid. I'm not saying I haven't done that but it is fairly rare. I think you are confusing me with another poster (or several). You clearly have no idea about my general posting history since you didn't even know I was a "both sider" and I'm typically the poster called out for being the most extreme both sider.Abrego Garcia
June 6Jun 6 6 minutes ago, The Norseman said:Abrego GarciaYeah, what about that? Everything I've posted about that guy is correct and I've put up stuff from Fox as well as other places. What do you disagree with? You probably think I don't want him to be deported don't you?
June 6Jun 6 14 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:Yeah, what about that? Everything I've posted about that guy is correct and I've put up stuff from Fox as well as other places. What do you disagree with? You probably think I don't want him to be deported don't you? We all do it on occasion, but MAGA can’t see the issue through the strawmen. Being concerned about due process means you’re a dirty liberal who wants to harbor criminals. Being concerned about having 17% less atmospheric data that helps predict and warn people about severe weather, means you are a dirty liberal who is worried about weathermen. I believe that this is evident in the fact that Norse thinks you are a far left lunatic. I consider you one of the most considerate posters on CVON that rarely takes the low road.
June 6Jun 6 20 minutes ago, DrPhilly said:Yeah, what about that? Everything I've posted about that guy is correct and I've put up stuff from Fox as well as other places. What do you disagree with? You probably think I don't want him to be deported don't you?I'm not getting into this debate again. The point is that it was a flash in the plan issue that the left (and you) went crazy about and has now fallen off everyone's radar.
June 6Jun 6 1 minute ago, Tnt4philly said:We all do it on occasion, but MAGA can’t see the issue through the strawmen. Being concerned about due process means you’re a dirty liberal who wants to harbor criminals. Being concerned about having 17% less atmospheric data that helps predict and warn people about severe weather, means you are a dirty liberal who is worried about weathermen. I believe that this is evident in the fact that Norse thinks you are a far left lunatic.I consider you one of the most considerate posters on CVON that rarely takes the low road.Well, he's a lot more considerate than you, I'll give him that.
June 6Jun 6 3 minutes ago, The Norseman said:I'm not getting into this debate again. The point is that it was a flash in the plan issue that the left (and you) went crazy about and has now fallen off everyone's radar.No it hasn't. Not my radar anyway. For me the important has always been about the interaction between the Executive and Judicial branch and that is still ongoing.I'm all for deporting Garcia as long as he gets the proper level of due process. I am not in favor of shipping into a gulag in a 3rd country though. He should be sent back to Venezuela if the hearings determine that is the right thing to do.btw - Once we get to this point and you are asked to actual back up your case you fold. You have nothing and you know it.
June 6Jun 6 7 minutes ago, Tnt4philly said:I consider you one of the most considerate posters on CVON that rarely takes the low road.I do take it on occasion (or at times with Moss, haha) but it isn't my normal go to. To be fair I think Norse is mixing me up with someone else.
June 6Jun 6 1 minute ago, DrPhilly said:No it hasn't. Not my radar anyway. For me the important has always been about the interaction between the Executive and Judicial branch and that is still ongoing.I'm all for deporting Garcia as long as he gets the proper level of due process. I am not in favor of shipping into a gulag in a 3rd country though. He should be sent back to Venezuela if the hearings determine that is the right thing to do.btw - Once we get to this point and you are asked to actual back up your case you fold. You have nothing and you know it.My point is that it was a clerical error that everyone, including yourself made out to be a major due process issue. He was validated to be a member of a MS-13 by the Prince George's County Gang Unit and was subsequently deported. However, he was improperly deported to his home country, not a third country, which a Judge had previously ruled was necessary. When he got to his home country they decided to put him in prison and not move him.Was he sent to El Salvador in error? Yes. Could this have been handled better? You bet. But, if this had happened under Biden nobody would have even known this guy's name and you wouldn't have cared one iota.You can say otherwise, but I simply don't believe you.
June 6Jun 6 On 5/27/2025 at 11:37 AM, The Norseman said:A US citizen, CEO and the world's most successful entrepreneur volunteering to try to bring some organization and savings to our fiscally corrupt government is now a "foreigner just putting on a political spectacle" 😂😂Never change democrats.This aged well
June 6Jun 6 2 minutes ago, The Norseman said:My point is that it was a clerical error that everyone, including yourself made out to be a major due process issue. He was validated to be a member of a MS-13 by the Prince George's County Gang Unit and was subsequently deported. However, he was improperly deported to his home country, not a third country, which a Judge had previously ruled was necessary. When he got to his home country they decided to put him in prison and not move him.Was he sent to El Salvador in error? Yes. Could this have been handled better? You bet. But, if this had happened under Biden nobody would have even known this guy's name and you wouldn't have cared on iota.You can say otherwise, but I simply don't believe you.I will agree with one thing and that is if Garcia had simply been deported to Venezuela under Biden without the due process he is due then it wouldn't have gotten any attention. If Garcia had been sent to the gulag in El Salvador under Biden then it certainly would have been covered in the media.Again, my main issue here is the interaction between the Executive and Judiciary branches. It may have been a clerical error but the result was that Garcia did not get the due process that he should have received. If Biden had essentially ignored the Judiciary it would have been a big deal and I would have been very much against it. I have no issue with a mistake being made but I do have a BIG problem with the manner in which Bondi/Rubio/Miller/etc. have managed that mistake and how they have snubbed their noses at the Judiciary.
June 6Jun 6 11 minutes ago, The Norseman said:My point is that it was a clerical errorLOL no it was f***ing not.
June 6Jun 6 To be clear I know that's what they said initially. And on some level it may be true.But they've since doubled-down on it being "correct" and have refused to even make an effort to remedy it.Resting your defense on it being a "clerical error" is preposterous given how the case has been handled. This administration gleefully ignores due process.
June 6Jun 6 52 minutes ago, The Norseman said:Well, he's a lot more considerate than you, I'll give him that.I agree, but I was worse when my politics were aligned with Zuker. I strive to be better.
June 6Jun 6 6 hours ago, DrPhilly said:Point to 5 posts where I've just seized on a liberal headline. 6 hours ago, The Norseman said:Abrego GarciaOne bad example is not very close to 5.How long do we have to wait?
June 6Jun 6 2 minutes ago, Arthur Jackson said:One bad example is not very close to 5.How long do we have to wait?He's at zero as of now
June 6Jun 6 6 hours ago, The Norseman said:My point is that it was a clerical error that everyone, including yourself made out to be a major due process issue. He was validated to be a member of a MS-13 by the Prince George's County Gang Unit and was subsequently deported. However, he was improperly deported to his home country, not a third country, which a Judge had previously ruled was necessary. When he got to his home country they decided to put him in prison and not move him.Was he sent to El Salvador in error? Yes. Could this have been handled better? You bet. But, if this had happened under Biden nobody would have even known this guy's name and you wouldn't have cared one iota.You can say otherwise, but I simply don't believe you."My point is that it was a clerical error that everyone, including yourself made out to be a major due process issue"It wasn't a "clerical error". He had an order of protection of removal, and the government violated it. It's already been confirmed IN THE SUPREME COURT CASE that what they did was ILLEGAL. Period."He was validated to be a member of a MS-13 by the Prince George's County Gang Unit"No, he wasn't. Which is why he was given the protection against removal in the first place. The judge found that the "evidence" was lacking, and the officer who filled out the form had been placed on leave afterwards. The government could have chosen to appeal the protection order, but they didn't.You are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.
June 6Jun 6 Just now, DrPhilly said:He's at zero as of nowSo, I'm no mathematician (or... am I ? No, seriously I'm asking. It's Friday I have no idea)... but...Let E be the total number of requested examples (dimensionless)Let t be the number time to provide those examples (days)Let r be the current rate at which examples are forthcoming (examples/day)Let x be the total amount of money I've spent on strippers and prostitutes over the course of my entire life (USD/Euros/Pounds Sterling/Peso/Bhat given in standard 2018 Euro)The formula is E = r*tSolving for t:t = E/rwe know:E = 5r = 0 examples/dayso:t = 5/0 = NaNDividing by zero yields an undefined quantity - the null set.Don't wait up.
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