3 hours ago, mattwill said:

1970 was a very good year.  I became a father for the first time that year, and as a result my 17 year old son and I had the same 1987 experience as you did.  Fittingly, last season he and I went to a Commies game together and enjoyed the game and the win.  So much easier and more fun than dealing with the losses.  We are indeed in good times … and thankful for it.

I was actually 1969, in March. So  I was still 17 when the Redskins won that Super Bowl. In fact, not long after that Super Bowl, my Senior class had it's Sr. Class trip to Lake Placid, NY and I was as close to Philly as I've ever been as we drove from Maryland to upstate NY... I think. How far is Ski Liberty from Philly? I went there when I was a Boy Scout in the late 70's or very early 80's (maybe during the 80 Super Bowl run).

1 minute ago, bpac55 said:

Trotter Jr. There's a chance we never see Dean play a down for the Eagles again.

Nah.  As much as I like Trotter Jr, Dean had an amazing season and has solidified himself there.  That said, injuries can be tricky so hopefully he has a complete recovery.

If Trotter Jr. continues to develop, Vic Fangio won't have issues using him as a rotational piece.  

9 minutes ago, Miami said:

Correct on Huff.  His number just looks too big to move now.  But after next season there is an out, albeit with a pretty big cap hit.

He has a bonus option as well, $16M in 2025. The tricky part is it’s guaranteed so you can’t just cut him. 

I think he’s gone. Fangio clearly doesn’t want him and for Howie to allow him be a healthy scratch all through the playoffs doesn’t bode well for him either. There was also a ton of smoke at the trade deadline too that he would be moved. As soon as the deadline closed Fowler put out a speculative report that he’d be on the trade block to start the 2025 season. I can’t imagine Huff wants to be here also.

Do a late round pick swap and trade him, just eat the $13M in dead cap he leaves behind. If you gamble with him and keep him around for a year it’s $22M in dead cap in 2026 to move him.

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

He has a bonus option as well, $16M in 2025. The tricky part is it’s guaranteed so you can’t just cut him. 

I think he’s gone. Fangio clearly doesn’t want him and for Howie to allow him be a healthy scratch all through the playoffs doesn’t bode well for him either. There was also a ton of smoke at the trade deadline too that he would be moved. As soon as the deadline closed Fowler put out a speculative report that he’d be on the trade block to start the 2025 season. I can’t imagine Huff wants to be here also.

Do a late round pick swap and trade him, just eat the $13M in dead cap he leaves behind. If you gamble with him and keep him around for a year it’s $22M in dead cap in 2026 if you move him.

 

How does trading Huff affect the cap?

36 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Who is the best, most important future player on the team that did nothing this year?

For argument’s sake, include Dotson and Shipley in the pool of discussion even if you want to argue that they did more than nothing.

 

 

Tanner McKee.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

He has a bonus option as well, $16M in 2025. The tricky part is it’s guaranteed so you can’t just cut him. 

I think he’s gone. Fangio clearly doesn’t want him and for Howie to allow him be a healthy scratch all through the playoffs doesn’t bode well for him either. There was also a ton of smoke at the trade deadline too that he would be moved. As soon as the deadline closed Fowler put out a speculative report that he’d be on the trade block to start the 2025 season. I can’t imagine Huff wants to be here also.

Do a late round pick swap and trade him, just eat the $13M in dead cap he leaves behind. If you gamble with him and keep him around for a year it’s $22M in dead cap in 2026 if you move him.

Says $28mm cap hit, or are you subtracting the $15mm option bonus since we would not pay it?  If so, then I'm all for it.  He does not want to be here.  We are going to have quite a dead money figure.

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

@VaBeach_Eagle There seems to be an issue where embedded tweets just don't load anymore. Like you go to the page they were posted and there's just a blank space. They weren't ones that were deleted, those come up as "tweet deleted" or whatever.

I made sure it wasn't just my browser. Tried it on several browers on my PC, iPad, and phone. Same thing.

Example:

There's a tweet in that post, but all that's visible is the gif.

Check this post, the Tweet (or whatever they've called now), loaded for me:

 

2 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

 

How does trading Huff affect the cap?

Not in a good way. What I suggested would be an additional $5M in space bs his current number. It would just be a way to get it out of it sooner before it potentially gets worse.

It’s either cut your losses and move on or pray he has a drastic turnaround and it somehow works. The worst scenario is you hope he turns it around but doesn’t and it just costs you more to move on.

24 minutes ago, Wentz_Era said:

Can you repeat that, i can’t read this over the ringing in my ears.

I don't know if my headache yesterday was from the ringing in my ears, which was pretty loud and is today, too. Or maybe it was from sitting in front of my computer watching the parade all day. 

4 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

Check this post, the Tweet (or whatever they've called now), loaded for me:

 

It seems to only happen with certain ones at random. Not sure why. They embed initially, then disappear later and just leave a blank space in the post.

42 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Who is the best, most important future player on the team that did nothing this year?

For argument’s sake, include Dotson and Shipley in the pool of discussion even if you want to argue that they did more than nothing.

 

 

Dong nothing is relative, as Jeremiah Trotter had a start, 25 tackles and half a sack, Tanner McKee had those TDs against Dallas, and even Johnny Wilson had a lot of moments (and drops)

 

Does Moro Ojomo count? Does Tyler Steen count? 

8 minutes ago, RLC said:

Tanner McKee.

Pretty sure McKee did much more than "nothing" this past season though - he basically solidified as the team's #2 QB (Both in practice and on the field) if they decide to move on from Pickett.  

The nice part is that Pickett should actually have decent trade value around the league - he played well enough when he had time to prepare to show himself as a capable backup.  I wouldn't be surprised if the Eagles land a conditional 3 maybe a 4 for him from the right team. 

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

Definitely think the first two rounds are spent on DL and OL though. Given it's a great edge class, it almost feels too easy to project edge in round 1.

We could definitely be picking a tight end in the first two rounds. It's a pretty significant need, IMO. And I'm probably the biggest Goedert fan here. We need that succession plan to start moving. 

43 minutes ago, Cliftoma said:

Q is like the drunk friend you are trying to get out of the bar before he exposes himself 🤣. Pull your britches up!!

 

36 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

They still have to fulfill the Rooney Rule so they have to interview someone else 

Understood but if they don't seem in a rush to name someone and are just slowly going through process that probably means they know it's Patullo.  If you really wanted a new guy you'd want at least a week before combine

4 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

It seems to only happen with certain ones at random. Not sure why. They embed initially, then disappear later and just leave a blank space in the post.

Link it to me anytime you see it happen... well, not any/every time. But next time you see it.

4 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

I don't know if my headache yesterday was from the ringing in my ears, which was pretty loud and is today, too. Or maybe it was from sitting in front of my computer watching the parade all day. 

That’s no fun!  Hopefully it passes or dies down soon.

49 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

Who is the best, most important future player on the team that did nothing this year?

For argument’s sake, include Dotson and Shipley in the pool of discussion even if you want to argue that they did more than nothing.

 

 

Ringo. We need to find out if he truly does have starting ability or whether he's going to just be a backup (and special teams ace) here until he signs elsewhere as a free agent. I know he's still young so there's hope. But questions need to be answered.

43 minutes ago, Cliftoma said:

Q is like the drunk friend you are trying to get out of the bar before he exposes himself 🤣. Pull your britches up!!

 

8 minutes ago, Miami said:

Says $28mm cap hit, or are you subtracting the $15mm option bonus since we would not pay it?  If so, then I'm all for it.  He does not want to be here.  We are going to have quite a dead money figure.

The way these bonuses are written, at least according to Spotrac, is they must be exercised by Week 1 but don’t have a specific date. So Spotrac always just assume the original team is paying that bonus in their numbers. 

So yea, I’m taking it out because if we manage to trade him before the bonus is exercised, it’s not on our books and goes to the trading team. The only thing left would be his signing bonus proration. 

Obviously this is going to hurt the return value though. Howie is going to have to convince the other team to pay that money which is why I wouldn’t expect really anything of value. It would be a move just to get him off the books.

6 minutes ago, Aerolithe_Lion said:

Dong nothing is relative, as Jeremiah Trotter had a start, 25 tackles and half a sack, Tanner McKee had those TDs against Dallas, and even Johnny Wilson had a lot of moments (and drops)

 

Does Moro Ojomo count? Does Tyler Steen count? 

 

Right.  The only way to justify that question would be to word it something like, "Who is the most important future Eagles player who did not play much this season" or something along those lines, imo.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The way these bonuses are written, at least according to Spotrac, is they must be exercised by Week 1 but don’t have a specific date. So Spotrac always just assume the original team is paying that bonus in their numbers. 

So yea, I’m taking it out because if we manage to trade him before the bonus is exercised, it’s not on our books and goes to the trading team. The only thing left would be his signing bonus proration. 

Obviously this is going to hurt the return value though. Howie is going to have to convince the other team to pay that money which is why I wouldn’t expect really anything of value. It would be a move just to get him off the books.

Got it.  Thanks.  Am learning about this stuff.  Very helpful.  I'd move him tomorrow then.

4 minutes ago, Ace Nova said:

Nah.  As much as I like Trotter Jr, Dean had an amazing season and has solidified himself there.  That said, injuries can be tricky so hopefully he has a complete recovery.

If Trotter Jr. continues to develop, Vic Fangio won't have issues using him as a rotational piece.  

Dean was fantastic this year. I'm trying to be realistic about Dean's injury. I'm no doctor, but everything you read about the injury is that it's a 6-12 month recovery time and sometimes a career ender. Not a lot of players have torn their patellar and come back. 

-Victor Cruz tore his in October 2014, missed all of 2015 due to a calf injury that some say was caused by the patellar tear and played one more season.

-Jimmy Graham tore his in November 2015 and came back to play all of 2016 and just retired last year. He was still a good TE, but he wasn't the dominate force he was pre-injury. You can also argue that TE and LB put different amounts of stress on a knee.

Not only is Dean going to be rehabbing, he's going to have to rebuild his lower body strength. He's already a 230lb LB so you can imagine he's going to have significant atrophy and lose muscle weight. He'll have to bust his tail to reach his playing weight, on top of just recovering from the injury. Dean isn't exactly the poster child for clean health either. Yea, he made it through the whole season but he's now had major injuries in every year he's been in the NFL.

I would love nothing more than for Dean to come back stronger than ever. Apparently, he's already off crutches after his January 20th surgery so he's optimistic. If you're Howie though, you can't gamble on him to be healthy. 

5 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Understood but if they don't seem in a rush to name someone and are just slowly going through process that probably means they know it's Patullo.  If you really wanted a new guy you'd want at least a week before combine

Yea I agree. I just meant more I would expect to at least hear something in the next week about candidates even if they aren’t serious contenders. 

25 minutes ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

I was actually 1969, in March. So  I was still 17 when the Redskins won that Super Bowl. In fact, not long after that Super Bowl, my Senior class had it's Sr. Class trip to Lake Placid, NY and I was as close to Philly as I've ever been as we drove from Maryland to upstate NY... I think. How far is Ski Liberty from Philly? I went there when I was a Boy Scout in the late 70's or very early 80's (maybe during the 80 Super Bowl run).

Same with me…I was born in ‘68 and was class of ‘87