13 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I've seen it a lot too but didn't dive into it. What one play was it?

The Carter sack when Stafford had a wide open guy to score and win the game

5 minutes ago, TEW said:

The injury issue is an honest concern.

The rest of the stuff is silly. Especially "comfortably our worst OL.” He’s arguably our best run blocker — and I would say our most important run blocker. So many of our explosive run plays are due to his ability to annihilate defenders off the LOS.
 

He’s one of the most unique talents in the league and he’s 25 years old. Our entire offense is built around the run. We have a top 5 OL in league history and we can afford to keep him.

Keep him.

Indeed. The really bad pass protection breakdowns this year came from Jurgens, e.g. the safety to pick one. Not from Becton, who failed to read two stunts early in the year. Both plays involved the DE or OLB on the extreme defensive left looping around two DL with the DL who lined up over Becton crossing his face from right to left. That’s a lot for a guy who never played guard to pick up. So, two sacks allowed before the bye and one (count ‘em, one) in the following 16 games. Well, 14, because he missed two with a concussion.

I forget what pundit it was who said the Eagles have only three running plays: inside zone, outside zone, and pin-and-pull. That’s pretty much true and most times their OZ or P&P go to the left, with Becton pulling. I would argue that we also run a split zone but that’s really an IZ with a TE crossing against the flow - it gives the RB a cutback option. Anyway, yes. I agree that he is our most important run blocker, just as Brooks was when he was the RG.

We lack depth on our OL. There! I said it! After Steen we have journeymen. Fred Johnson got exposed. I have hopes for Keegan, who couldn’t see the field, and after that nothing. And that notion that Stoutland can spin gold from straw, well, no. 
 How about Becton being too big? Silly. Yeah. Let’s have a bunch of six footers, physically outmatched rather than the other way around.

I made a less than laudatory comment about Jurgens earlier. I should modify it. He was for the most part terrific, as good as any C in the league. Those errors I mentioned came more from an excess of enthusiasm than anything else. He has to develop a little more patience in pass pro. Delayed blitzes and stunts give him trouble at times. Experience and Stoutland will cure that.

Obviously there is a dollar amount Howie will not go past. If Becton can get more elsewhere he’s free to do so. If it’s close I think he’ll stay but what do I know?

Finally, my key argument: Mailata went on camera and asked Howie to bring Becton back. In so many words. That carries more weight with me than any of my arguments.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

The Carter sack when Stafford had a wide open guy to score and win the game

I’ll go back and look at that. I don’t remember anyone being wide open that quickly.

8 minutes ago, HazletonEagle said:

well, whatever. They werent. Maybe. But maybe not.

Its not too dissimilar to how most eagles fans will say we were an alshon jeffery drop away from winning another super bowl. In reality we hadnt even reached the NFCCG yet. 

If they want to put that narrative out there about the rams, who cares? We won the super bowl. The Lombardi sits in the trophy case at the Linc now. Nothing they say can take it away.

Big difference between dropping a catch in a game they were losing and would still be losing if Jeffery caught it and scoring the go ahead TD with less than a minute left in the game. 

But it doesn't ultimately matter to me. 2017 Falcons were a play away from going to the NFCCG too. But they didn't. Just like the Rams didn't. And the Eagles have two SB trophies because they didn't. 

3 minutes ago, Saltpeter said:

It's not "magical thinking" and it sounds like you have a personal issue with Rodgers (and Deion).

QB play across most NFL QBs is mediocre to bad. He'll never be his 2021 self again, but he can likely add value in the right situation (the part of my last post you skipped over with your misplaced rage).

Rodgers is human garbage. That's not personal and its not subjective.

Read about him.

Deion Sanders banned reporters for not worshiping him. Deion threatened to not let his kid go to some cities. He's loud and he's like Levar Ball because he is loud and he is like LeVar Ball. Again, nothing about this is opinion.

Read about him.

 

You did not say ADD VALUE. You said worthwhile. My worthwhile is a division championship and a playoff win. The odds of Rodgers doing that in Minnesota, Vegas, Indy, or NY are 1 in about 10,000

QB play across most QBs are not mediocre to bad. Half the league is above average and half is below. Rodgers is far below and he's not getting better.

 

Its not rage. Its cold analysis. You might want to talk to someone if you are seeing pretend motives from words on a screen.

An idea before we get into March. @VaBeach_Eagle Can we get a dedicated thread for simulated mock drafts so the blog doesn't get insufferably flooded with 10 fantasy simulated mock drafts per day from people bored at work?

The ideal scenario is for people to find better ways to bide their time at work when they're bored, but that will likely lead to more Jeffrey Toobins, so I say a good compromise is to make a dedicated thread on the main page and keep that junk outta here.

1 minute ago, LeanMeanGM said:

Big difference between dropping a catch in a game they were losing and would still be losing if Jeffery caught it and scoring the go ahead TD with less than a minute left in the game. 

But it doesn't ultimately matter to me. 2017 Falcons were a play away from going to the NFCCG too. But they didn't. Just like the Rams didn't. And the Eagles have two SB trophies because they didn't. 

The team that made the plays instead of walking away with what-ifs won. Thats how it goes.

All Im saying is, how can eagles fans be mad about the rams 1 play away narrative, when theyve spend years on the Jeffery what if. Neither are right. And, it doesnt matter. 

Just now, just relax said:

I’ll go back and look at that. I don’t remember anyone being wide open that quickly.

Regardless, they were driving. Then he wrecked it because that’s what a baby rhino does. They wreck games!

7 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

No point in worrying about Baun now. He is going to get a bunch of 4 or 5 year offers that are really 2 year offers. (See Hargrave) The Eagles will not get close to matching the pretend total value if its 2 teams or 7. They can get far closer on guaranteed money and use incentives. You can go higher on guarantees if you already know the guy is a perfect fit.

He's going to have to decide about how much being SB winner Zach Baun in Philly for the next 40 years means compared to chasing an extra theoretical 10-15 million. He's going to have to think about what his fit would be like in these other teams with other schemes. He's going to get more endorsements and playoff money here. Those endorsements could last 30+ years.

Williams and Sweat will chase the bag. I think Baun and Becton are going to think long and hard before deciding to leave. They can still get such a big offer that they take it (See Moore taking a 99% fail rate HC job for 40-50 million). 

If he stays and plays anything like 2024 again for a few years then he'll become a Philly legend too

1 minute ago, just relax said:

I’ll go back and look at that. I don’t remember anyone being wide open that quickly.

 

 

2 hours ago, greendestiny27 said:

She also said we would lose all 4 of our big FA's. That would be a major blow and fail. Garrett would be great but not at the cost of losing Baun and all the rest of our free agents on top of it. 

Was she that explicit?  ALL four?

18 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

You hear that guys, the Rams were 1 play away from beating the Eagles.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

An idea before we get into March. @VaBeach_Eagle Can we get a dedicated thread for simulated mock drafts so the blog doesn't get insufferably flooded with 10 fantasy simulated mock drafts per day from people bored at work?

The ideal scenario is for people to find better ways to bide their time at work when they're bored, but that will likely lead to more Jeffrey Toobins, so I say a good compromise is to make a dedicated thread on the main page and keep that junk outta here.

People will just post in here regardless lol

Eagles beat the Rams by two TDs minimum in normal weather conditions. All normal weather games, the Eagles blew out their opponents. If the Rams want to use that game is a barometer, by all means.

9 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

One play from taking the lead maybe, but I wouldn't say winning the game. Who knows what happens if the Rams score and the Eagles still have over a minute with the ball and those field conditions. 

That Win% metric would have been heavily in favor of the Rams in that moment.

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

 

Thanks. You saved me the trip. I’m convinced.

3 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

 

Does he not see the defender in the endzone that would be ready to tackle him? That's not a TD saving play

8 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

 

 

It just doesnt account for the eagles defenders reacting to what is happening on the field. Rodgers is covering the Kupp slant with his eyes towards the QB. He would see if Stafford was about to throw, and would be able to change course and crash down to try to make that tackle. As well, the safety, looks like Gardner-Johnson is standing in the end zone, and would also be able to read the QB action and begin breaking. Theres likely 2 defenders who arent close due to the fact that they didnt read an action that never began happening. But likely those 2 defenders are meeting the ball carrier before the goal line. 

The LB, looks like Baun? slides outside to take away that Kupp slant early. Hes not going to get there in time if it was all up to him. But if Rodgers and/or Gardner-Johnson are there to even just slow him down, Baun is likely getting there in time to help with the tackle too.

Its easy to forget what closing time looks like for NFL athletes. Thats wide open due to the slip, but players are going to get there if Stafford stays alive by reading his eyes and reacting to him beginning his throwing motion.

 

2 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Does he not see the defender in the endzone that would be ready to tackle him? That's not a TD saving play

It’s close, though. Definitely a first down inside the 5 with time left.

14 minutes ago, bpac55 said:

One play from taking the lead maybe, but I wouldn't say winning the game. Who knows what happens if the Rams score and the Eagles still have over a minute with the ball and those field conditions. 

We'll never know what would actually happen but this is the same game Hurts got his knee twisted and the offense came to a screeching halt outside of one Barkley run. 

4 plays, 5 yards

8 plays 19 yards

1 play 78 yards

3 plays -3 yards

Those were the drives after the safety and injury. Maybe Barkley has a 3rd long TD run in the tank but I wouldn't feel comfortable had the Rams scored. 

 

Maxwell Hairston 4.30

Here is the problem with the myopic Rams were 1 play analysis. Did Jake miss an extra point? Is that not a valid play that if it goes the other way its only a tie? Are catches in the snow 100% certain? Are extra points? What if the sack was instead pressure and he had to throw an inaccurate pass across his body that missed?

Did the snow have a factor on how close the game was? I wish they had played another game that year in better conditions for comparison.

Lets say he does catch that ball and score there. 1:00 to 1:10 left on the clock and 3 timeouts for the Eagles does not mean the Rams win.

The Falcons were a legit 1 play from beating the Eagles in 2017. They have not had a winning record since.

2 minutes ago, just relax said:

It’s close, though. Definitely a first down inside the 5 with time left.

If Carter doesn't get to him then Carter is likely doubled. If they want to play the 'what if' game then what if someone else comes in with the sack

9 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

Does he not see the defender in the endzone that would be ready to tackle him? That's not a TD saving play

A S one on one with a 6'6 260lb TE is not a sure thing he stops the runner in those field conditions. Even if he stops him there's no guarantee he doesn't get dragged into the end zone. 

The pass would also have been leading him away from the S.

Just now, LeanMeanGM said:

A S one on one with a 6'6 260lb TE is not a sure thing he stops the runner in those field conditions. Even if he stops him there's no guarantee he doesn't get dragged into the end zone. 

more likely, Chauncey and Rodgers slow him down so Baun can come force a fumble from behind. 

You cant what if one thing about that play and pretend nothing else the other players were doing would have changed. Yes, the guy one on 1 with the TE slips and that wouldnt change, but the other defenders would be reacting differently, and the TE would have 3 defenders converging on him quickly. 2 of them between him and the end zone.