5 minutes ago, mattwill said:

Can he move fast forward and nimblely laterally?

Stout loves his big OTs. He just needs to be able to move a little bit...

Zabel has perfect guard size

14 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Go ahead and waste money while you have so many holes to fill.

On an injury prone player. I like it

5 minutes ago, Godfather said:

On an injury prone player. I like it

I like so far what our NFC competitors have done or are doing.  Washington going with age.  San Francisco about to extend Purdy.  Detroit losing both Coordinators. The Rams extending Stafford is the only move so far that puts a competitor into a better position.

DC's draft  29, 61, 79, 207, 238, 250

Philly picks 32, 64, 96, 129, 162, 166, 169

 

Its real hard to make up ground that way.

1 hour ago, RLC said:

Stout loves his big OTs. He just needs to be able to move a little bit...

He was 450!!! after high school and got in shape at a military academy.

He does not move well according to reports. I'm not sure if they could pick him in round 5 and train him for better agility over a few years.

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Hollin-Pierce-OL-Rutgers

 

On that note, I am curious to see if they were able to make Ringo less hips stiff. (its why he fell) He did not play enough this year to get any kind of read. If they can teach Ringo to move better, maybe they can teach Mighty Joe Young to move better too?

9 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

DC's draft  29, 61, 79, 207, 238, 250

Philly picks 32, 64, 96, 129, 162, 166, 169

 

Its real hard to make up ground that way.

Jayden Daniels and the Commanders should be a competitive team next season - Daniels has shown plenty of talent and promise this past season. 

That said, next season, teams will have a full season's worth of film on Daniels and will look to exploit his weaknesses - just like they do and have done for every other rookie QB coming into the league that had a phenomenal rookie season.  It's called a "sophomore slump" for a reason.  Some QB's are more affected by it than others but it's usually the ones that are able to adapt and tweak their game as the season goes on (in response to how teams begin to handle him, etc) that have continued success. 

So imo, it remains to be seen how successful the Commanders will be next season and if they can repeat this past season's success. 

5 minutes ago, SkippyX said:

He was 450!!! after high school and got in shape at a military academy.

He does not move well according to reports. I'm not sure if they could pick him in round 5 and train him for better agility over a few years.

https://www.nfldraftbuzz.com/Player/Hollin-Pierce-OL-Rutgers

 

On that note, I am curious to see if they were able to make Ringo less hips stiff. (its why he fell) He did not play enough this year to get any kind of read.

If they can teach Ringo to move better, maybe they can teach Mighty Joe Young to move better too?

While he has the size Stout loves, he doesn't have that athletic ability and movement skills like you say. If Stout signs off on him then sure. But without that athletic ability they probably won't bother. 
I'm still a bit surprised that Ringo was never given reps at S. He just seems to be able to translate there pretty well especially considering some of those limitations. 

2 hours ago, bpac55 said:

Comes down to speed and athleticism. Long snapper needs to be one of the first down the field and agile enough to break down, pursue and tackle. OL are athletic freaks these days, but that is not their skillset at all.

Only on a punt. Hardly that important

Belton looks like he needs tk drop some bodyfat

If you want to see a true train wreck, take a look at the Saints cap situation this year and next.

https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/new-orleans-saints

They are 47.5 million over right now and if they cut their top 20 players they would lose cap space without a bunch of  post June 1st wiggling which only pushes the pain to next year. They have almost 70 million in VOID players tied up in next year's cap and just a massive list of free agents. I hope Moore got a lot of money to get fired in 2 years.

Booker looks like a slug out of the blocks. 

 

5 hours ago, eagle45 said:

On a team in danger of losing 4 defensive starters and a high end RG, just how high should they be buying injury insurance at backup center?  

If day 3 is very low, that means you want a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round pick allocated to a backup center.  That may end up being richer than what goes towards our starting RG, edge, or DT.

You buy what is available, you don't buy what you hope will work at a position of need.  Drafting for need has landed us some awful players over the years, whereas drafting the players that have fallen in our laps have worked much better.

3 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

3 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

I always wondered why you just would not have the back up center just train to be the long snapper

Different skill set and the fact that they have to run downfield to cover kicks makes a guy the size of a LB or TE make much more sense than a center.

3 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

3 hours ago, ToastJenkins said:

I always wondered why you just would not have the back up center just train to be the long snapper

Completely different snap for starters. A shotgun snap goes about six yards and it’s a flip more than a hard snap. It’s done one-handed because you’ve got a big ugly a few inches away primed to hit you. It’s a blind snap too. You don’t see your target because you’re occupied with the guy in front of you. You take a look before the snap, of course. A long snap goes about 14 yards on punts and you really have to whip it. On FGs and EPs you have to whip it about seven yards and your error tolerance is no more than a couple of inches. Long snappers use two hands and the rotation on the snap is critical on place kicks. The holder has to catch and set in a smooth motion because the kicker has already started his approach and will aim to strike the ball right where the holder pointed when they were setting up. The holder can adjust laces out if the rotation is a little off but only a little. Long snappers are protected these days but that’s only a very recent rule change. 
I would ask @FranklinFldEBUpper to step in here because he’s forgotten more about this than I’ll ever know and it’s been many decades since I did it and not particularly well. 

It is interesting that the Eagles are meeting with a lot of OL in this draft because Howie has a knack for going away from the strengths of drafts. His logic has always been if you're picking late, it's better to take the best or second best at another position than the 7th best at the position of strength.

Quinyon in an OL heavy draft.

Dillard in a DL heavy draft.

Some loaded RB classes where they passed on RB and went elsewhere.

I wonder if Howie will try to get a top 3 tackle or top IOL in this class instead of a DL that will be like 6th or 7th on their board at DL. I'd hope not. They really need DL especially if both Sweat and Milton leave and I think this class is deep enough, plus the OL draft isn't nearly as good as last year. Would be kind of annoying to not get one last year and then take one this year.

Comical that Daniel Jeremiah mocked a safety to eagles at 32. That’s not remotely happening 

6 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

It is interesting that the Eagles are meeting with a lot of OL in this draft because Howie has a knack for going away from the strengths of drafts. His logic has always been if you're picking late, it's better to take the best or second best at another position than the 7th best at the position of strength.

Quinyon in an OL heavy draft.

Dillard in a DL heavy draft.

Some loaded RB classes where they passed on RB and went elsewhere.

I wonder if Howie will try to get a top 3 tackle or top IOL in this class instead of a DL that will be like 6th or 7th on their board at DL. I'd hope not. They really need DL especially if both Sweat and Milton leave and I think this class is deep enough, plus the OL draft isn't nearly as good as last year. Would be kind of annoying to not get one last year and then take one this year.

Sounds like it. And last year pretty much all OL were gone. Pretty sure they would have gone that way otherwise. Which would be sad given how awesome Q is.

I doubt DL at one at this point. Maybe OL, I'd not even be shocked if it was a TE..

1 minute ago, pgcd3 said:

Comical that Daniel Jeremiah mocked a safety to eagles at 32. That’s not remotely happening 

Starks would make total sense. CJ probably gone after next yr. I think we saw how important the back 7 are to fangios scheme

 

2 minutes ago, Infam said:

Sounds like it. And last year pretty much all OL were gone. Pretty sure they would have gone that way otherwise. Which would be sad given how awesome Q is.

I doubt DL at one at this point. Maybe OL, I'd not even be shocked if it was a TE..

I value TE more than most but rd3 is probably first time i could see it lining up

1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said:

Starks would make total sense. CJ probably gone after next yr. I think we saw how important the back 7 are to fangios scheme

Blankenship is a FA next year and Brown hasn’t shown anything in two years that is bankable as well. 

1 minute ago, ToastJenkins said:

Starks would make total sense. CJ probably gone after next yr. I think we saw how important the back 7 are to fangios scheme

I will bet good money they do not take a safety

2 minutes ago, ManuManu said:

 

Ok that explains his bad numbers. He ran far worse than i expected