2 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Green was worse but we didn't sign him he was added to a deal we wanted to make

I don't remember anyone disliking the Becton deal, I certainly did not dislike it 

3 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Saw someone mention Marcus Williams. Ravens are releasing him tomorrow. Totally forgot about him. Now that is a name I like. May be out of their price range though, we'll see.

Eagles dodged a bullet with him the first time.

2 hours ago, GoEagles614 said:

McCollum hasn’t been nearly as impressive as his brother has at CB. We watch him and Brown get torched in garbage time when all you can’t do is give up big TDs. 
 

Syndney Brown is constantly nearing penalties and doing the most after the whistle - I can’t imagine letting him play 60+ snaps a game and having confidence he won’t be ejected/constantly draw penalties. Not to mention, not really being the fleetest of feet. 

Oh for Fs sake, they were in prevent defense when they got beat.  Sorry you don’t like Tristan.  Zyon was pretty much a corner in college.  Tristan, who didn’t test as well as his twin, coming off injury had played corner, nickel, safety and some hybrid LB/joker at Sam Houston, so he had more to learn.  Exactly what you want in a fourth S. Good STs player.  BTW, another player we got from the Texans.  Brown is pretty good at downhill.  Frankly, he needs to slow on the hit and wrap up tackle is his biggest fault.  That said, Brown backed up CJGJ, so it’s time for Brown to play.  

21 minutes ago, NOTW said:

Let's check in on thicc n tired (nothing embeds anymore @VaBeach_Eagle)

https://x.com/britttlifts/status/1899481066387181675

 

Yeah, I keep getting no post at that link

3 minutes ago, mattwill said:

I’m coming to this late so this response may be outdated, but my answer to your Safety question is Cine, but possibly Brown.

Justin Simmons on a 1 year still a possibility.

He spoke highly of the eagles and Vic on a recent podcast saying " eagles were very high in his list..."

3 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

I don't remember anyone disliking the Becton deal, I certainly did not dislike it 

I think most were like ok....whatever. Especially, considering how many other people they brought in.

3 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

We didn't trade CJGJ for Green. He was thrown into the deal

This isn’t the NBA where we needed salary filler to make the deal work. I’m sure he was in the deal for a reason and was valued in some small way by the Eagles. 

I can buy Ringo as the presumed starter at corner. I don't really buy Brown at safety. They will bring in some competition at both spots, but they may do another stop-gap starting safety type free agent or a high draft pick. Fangio has something in mind.

18 minutes ago, pgcd3 said:

Yeah I'm a complete Howie convert. I trust him completely right now.  If preseason ends and the safety position looks weak then I'll say so but until then I'm assuming he'll address it adequately before the season

First few I was like yeah we expected that. Last few...

1 minute ago, NOTW said:

I can buy Ringo as the presumed starter at corner. I don't really buy Brown at safety. They will bring in some competition at both spots, but they may do another stop-gap starting safety type free agent or a high draft pick. Fangio has something in mind.

Sydney Brown is really raw; he's a Combine darling the Eagles are hoping can be coached into the type of player to match his athleticism.  I would have wanted Drew Sanders at that draft spot, but when the Eagles already drafted Nolan Smith at pick #30 it made him redundant.  

 

Let’s trade for Kupp then just play 6 o-lineman. Would still be a top 5 offense 

https://x.com/ZBerm/status/1899549651235488164

One note here: The distinction between cash spending and cap spending comes up with these moves. when trading C.J. Gardner-Johnson, it's not necessarily the cap savings — there's $8.5M in cash savings. The Eagles ranked No. 1 in the NFL in cash spending from 2014-2023. A big part of their team-building strategy is with high cash spending that allows them to spread the cap hit over a period of years. With some of these big deals during the past year (and big contracts upcoming) there's been heavy cash spending. The salary cap is only one part of this. The team's overall cash budget is another part of the calculation. This is also something to keep in mind if the Eagles move on from Dallas Goedert this offseason.

https://x.com/JFMcMullen/status/1899554486336540704

A little reset on the #Eagles and what's going on. The #Bengals Joe Burrow made some news in the offseason when he said the "#Eagles are paying everybody." That's been the perception around the league and the fan base because the organizational philosophy has been cash over cap. It's taken for granted that Jeffrey Lurie will sign off on anything and everything. Last offseason was an extremely expensive one for the #Eagles, who are No. 1 in cash spending over the last decade. The correction this year is about the future and upcoming extensions, most notably for Jalen Carter, who is almost certainly going to set the market at defensive tackle, and Cam Jurgens, who will be close to that at center. The Eagles also prioritized getting Zack Baun back and put him near the top of the off-ball LB market. The trade of C.J. Gardner-Johnson is more about cash savings ($8.5 million) than cap space. The more disciplined approach to what's coming in the near future is also the reason it may be difficult to bring Dallas Goedert back. We will see how that shakes out. The overall strategy is never just about one moment and one move.

 

You can always tell when the Eagles PR feed the beats

Twitter is still broken?  Yikes. Bad timing. 

32 minutes ago, DawkinsOwnage03 said:

Howie maybe gonna pay Carter early?

Jurgens. Got to get him done so he doesn’t have the leverage of free agency. 

 

Honestly this is better than the Isiah Rodgers deal

1 minute ago, DEagle7 said:

Twitter is still broken?  Yikes. Bad timing. 

Just broken here, embedding. Not on their end.

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

https://x.com/ZBerm/status/1899549651235488164

One note here: The distinction between cash spending and cap spending comes up with these moves. when trading C.J. Gardner-Johnson, it's not necessarily the cap savings — there's $8.5M in cash savings. The Eagles ranked No. 1 in the NFL in cash spending from 2014-2023. A big part of their team-building strategy is with high cash spending that allows them to spread the cap hit over a period of years. With some of these big deals during the past year (and big contracts upcoming) there's been heavy cash spending. The salary cap is only one part of this. The team's overall cash budget is another part of the calculation. This is also something to keep in mind if the Eagles move on from Dallas Goedert this offseason.

Doesnt seem like Lurie’s concern is ever cash flow 

Sleeper pick at CB

Another RD5 special

 

 

2 minutes ago, LeanMeanGM said:

https://x.com/ZBerm/status/1899549651235488164

One note here: The distinction between cash spending and cap spending comes up with these moves. when trading C.J. Gardner-Johnson, it's not necessarily the cap savings — there's $8.5M in cash savings. The Eagles ranked No. 1 in the NFL in cash spending from 2014-2023. A big part of their team-building strategy is with high cash spending that allows them to spread the cap hit over a period of years. With some of these big deals during the past year (and big contracts upcoming) there's been heavy cash spending. The salary cap is only one part of this. The team's overall cash budget is another part of the calculation. This is also something to keep in mind if the Eagles move on from Dallas Goedert this offseason.

In the long run cash and cap are the same.  If you spend a lot of cash upfront it can be allocated over years in cap. Conversely the Eagles accelerating a hit and cutting/trading a guy doesn't immediately save cap only cash.  But the cash they aren't paying is ultimately a cap savings in future years. 

John McMullen

 

@JFMcMullen

 

 

A little reset on the #Eagles and what's going on. The #Bengals Joe Burrow made some news in the offseason when he said the "#Eagles are paying everybody." That's been the perception around the league and the fan base because the organizational philosophy has been cash over cap. It's taken for granted that Jeffrey Lurie will sign off on anything and everything. Last offseason was an extremely expensive one for the #Eagles, who are No. 1 in cash spending over the last decade. The correction this year is about the future and upcoming extensions, most notably for Jalen Carter, who is almost certainly going to set the market at defensive tackle, and Cam Jurgens, who will be close to that at center. The Eagles also prioritized getting Zack Baun back and put him near the top of the off-ball LB market. The trade of C.J. Gardner-Johnson is more about cash savings ($8.5 million) than cap space. The more disciplined approach to what's coming in the near future is also the reason it may be difficult to bring Dallas Goedert back. We will see how that shakes out. The overall strategy is never just about one moment and one move.

 

Any possibility something else is going on or is it purely because they know they're paying future guys?

 

I remember during the season Bo Wulf and Berman joked about Lurie saving money to buy the Celtics after they sold the snow from the Rams game for $50 a container and Lurie apparently cancelled their annual Christmas party. Then all of a sudden word comes out about Lurie trying to buy the Celtics.

 

I would put the chances of Lurie trying to scale back the cash spending for that reason as not likely, but I don't know. All of this talk about saving cash and getting rid of CJGJ just to save cash and gain no cap space did bring it back to my mind. Probably nothing to it.

3 minutes ago, ToastJenkins said:

Doesnt seem like Lurie’s concern is ever cash flow 

It's not cash flow

Safety prospect to watch is Kevin Winston Jr. from Penn State .. Dude has a ton of talent and is coming off a partially torn ACL which was in 2nd game of season.. Think he was probably a 1st round pick before the injury.  Maybe a 3rd rounder?

2 minutes ago, Alphagrand said:

Sydney Brown is really raw; he's a Combine darling the Eagles are hoping can be coached into the type of player to match his athleticism.  I would have wanted Drew Sanders at that draft spot, but when the Eagles already drafted Nolan Smith at pick #30 it made him redundant.  

 

Huh?

Brown was a super productive college player. He started as a true freshman and was a team captain and all-American his senior year ranking third in the country for INTs.

Definitely not just some combine warrior.

56 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

https://x.com/Philly_Mike25/status/1899542868957479399

CJGJ talking about being traded.

I'm glad there's no bad blood. I guess no restructure and pay cut could have happened

Here's a little math example

Player X gets 20 mil signing bonus and 5 per over 4 years not guaranteed after year 2.  Cash outlay is 20, cap hit each year 10

If you cut player X before year 3 starts then your cap hit is 10 for the remaining bonus in year 3 so it's the same but you save 5 million cash each year for the last 2 and you ultimately gain 10 mil in cap in year 4 but in year 3 your cap hit is still 10.