13 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

 

At least Howie admitted he's a unique player. Hopefully something can be done with an extension. Adding another major hole going into the draft would be rough. 

Looks like the Eagles will be going to Brazil every time they play there. Which is annoying.

2 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Looks like the Eagles will be going to Brazil every time they play there. Which is annoying.

Every season we went to Brazil we won the Super Bowl

20 minutes ago, greendestiny27 said:

At least Howie admitted he's a unique player. Hopefully something can be done with an extension. Adding another major hole going into the draft would be rough. 

Not as bad as you think.  GC did a decent job and Bryant is pretty good and there is talent in the draft too.  Just a question of allocating resources to other positions.  Hopefully will happen by the draft so we can draft accordingly.  

I was just on Amazon to make sure that NFL Films no longer makes their Super Bowl Champions Blu Ray video. They don't. 

But while there, I saw that they're still selling their 20+ year old "Complete History of the Philadelphia Eagles" (from 2004).

Starring the New York Giants? lol

15 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Looks like the Eagles will be going to Brazil every time they play there. Which is annoying.

The Eagles need to wear their black socks more often

16 minutes ago, Sack that QB said:

Looks like the Eagles will be going to Brazil every time they play there. Which is annoying.

We're not playing there this year. 

Regarding the Tush Push, you can claim it's all about player safety but if that's the case, why isn't players turning their backs while throwing themselves at a running backs legs banned, you see it every game, it's a zero skill move (it's the opposite of technique) and it more or less ended Nick Chubb's career as an elite running back a season ago.

52 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Put a number on what the value for that is.  What does it cost to add a similar player?  How easily can they be found on the free agent market or in which round of the draft?  Is the cost to replace him, lower than the 5th year option?   I'm going to guess that's @ManuManu's reasoning.   It would be mine as well.  

But, in terms of evaluating whether or not he was a 'good pick', his draft status matters and needs to be evaluated in terms of how to approach the upcoming and future drafts.   You seem to think that there's no value in assessing the past.  That's folly.  Whatever process went into the selection of Davis and the decision to move up for him needs to be assessed and the largest element in that evaluation is what his actual production has been over the past 3 years.  In short... it hasn't been good enough to warrant that selection.  Would it have been a better utilization of resources to select, say... Kyle Hamilton at that spot and look to fill in the NT position with a different option?   His rookie year they brought in Linval Joseph and Ndamukung Suh, in part because he wasn't providing enough.  When they came in, his snaps dropped off dramatically.  So, his rookie season, he provided almost nothing and frankly, had they not selected him, they STILL could have brought in Suh and Joseph and gotten the same result.   In 2023, resigning Joseph certainly sits as an option.  He signed here in 2022 for just over $2M and signed in Buffalo for 2023 for ever so slightly more than that and a full season for the Cowboys in 2024.  And the cost to the cap alone was higher for Davis, not even counting the cost to draft him.   Did he actually return a higher value than Joseph?   He didn't in 2022, I feel very confident in that assertion.   I'm not sure about 2023 and 2024... that's hard to evaluate, especially when he played on such a bad team in 2024.  He played 35% of the snaps for the Bills for the time he was active.   That's less than Davis in 2023, but about the same as 2024.

 

So, the question really comes down to this:  How much is Davis really worth in that role?  The league seems to think that the value is rather low for a run stuffing NT.  I've got no issue resigning him... but at the proper cost.  His 5th year option would be way out of range of that ($12.9M - projected by OTC).

https://overthecap.com/fifth-year-option-projections#google_vignette

 

This is what I found yesterday, which appears to be comparable (see below).  If JD miraculously turns into Vita Vea then you are talking $20M+/yr as a FA which will be a good/different problem to solve.

I guess for context Dalvin Tomlinson just signed a 2yr/$29M contract to play the nose for Gannon at age 31. He’s a run stuffer who gets about 3 sacks per year and plays about 50% of the snaps.

 

1 hour ago, EaglePhan1986 said:

My guess is the tush push will be legal for one more season. Eventually, someone will get hurt during the play and that will be their reasoning for banning it even though I’ve never seen any stats that say there are more injuries than normal on that play. 

Obviously, the Eagles wouldn’t run it if their own players were getting hurt. 

Football in general puts players in position to get hurt.

Its a violent high impact game, for the league to hem and haw over the dangers of of the tush push when as far as I know the play doesnt put players in harm more so than any other is just ridiculous.

What next they going to outlaw tackling with force?

The league can be a violent high impact game that is hazardous to players health and safety or ot can be a touch league, it cant be both, so the league needs to stop trying to make it both.

24 minutes ago, Waiting4Someday said:

This is what I found yesterday, which appears to be comparable (see below).  If JD miraculously turns into Vita Vea then you are talking $20M+/yr as a FA which will be a good/different problem to solve.

I guess for context Dalvin Tomlinson just signed a 2yr/$29M contract to play the nose for Gannon at age 31. He’s a run stuffer who gets about 3 sacks per year and plays about 50% of the snaps.

 

So... he provides more than Davis too.  

1 hour ago, Iggles_Phan said:

If Davis has the production that Williams did, especially in the post-season, he'd have earned it (even if its overvalued).  But, of course, Milton also played way more snaps than Davis last year...  so, he proved himself to be more valuable as well.

No way do I resign Davis at the 5th year option level projected of nearly $13M!   That's insane.   Vita Vea is getting about $20M, and he's a way better player in that role than Davis, and can offer much more in a pass rush.  There's no way that I give Davis even half of Vea's contract.

That is a business decision.  I would exercise it you wouldn't.  What Vea signed for doesn't really matter anymore.  He signed his contract in January 2022.  That would be four full NFL seasons before the Davis fifth year option contract kicks in.  Four NFL seasons is like 100 years in normal human time.  If the Eagles don't exercise Davis' fifth year option he is gone in 2026 as it only takes one out of thirty-one other NFL teams to offer him a contract that the Eagles can't/won't match.  Some team will do that for a 6'6-340lb 26 year old in 2026.

4 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

So... he provides more than Davis too.  

The big thing is the snap counts... but if you play on CLE, MIN or NYG you probably need to be on the field more (just like in 2023 when our team was bad, JD got 45%).  

15 hours ago, schuy7 said:

I'd love to know what changed in the last year or two for there to be more support to ban the tush push. I guess the NFL just loves to over-officiate, but even more than that, they love a good storyline. More drama. There's no better time to ban it than right after we won the SB.

I think we've also become less successful too

3 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Juat read that ESPN is having the Super Bowl in 2027.  Wonder how long until a streaming service gets a Super Bowl.

Not long. One of the streaming services will throw money at it

Though I could see lawsuits from bars that don't have smart tvs that allow you to get whatever streaming service gets it

2 hours ago, RememberTheKoy said:

Andy Reid the latest loser to come out on record. Guess we should just ban the QB sneak all together since his fragile QB can't do them after he dislocated his knee cap on an attempt a few years back.

 

 

 

 

 

That's an odd take from him. He should know that it doesn't

1 hour ago, Sack that QB said:

 

I vote move on from him but I know it's costly

 

 

 

 

 

NFL player safety logic:
Some years ago they said that Kickoff returns had a high concussion rate so they changed the rule to move the touchback to the 25 yard line in an effort to reduce the number of returns.  Fast forward to now...last year and now this year they're tweaking rules to prompt MORE KO returns.

Also - Ban the tush push for player safety on a play that's had 0 injuries.

 

3 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

 

Thanks.  These are great.  Eagles sound dialed-in.  Very encouraging.  Could hear it in the players before the SB too.  Laser focus.

 

 

The Bills ran the tush push a lot. If they thought it was that dangerous they wouldn't have ran it. They are just butt hurt they aren't as good at it and it cost them the AFCCG. Loser pettiness.

5 minutes ago, Connecticut Eagle said:

 

I'm still super happy he changed his view and paid Baun