1 hour ago, CouchKing said:

Nico is QB1 at Tennessee slated to make $2.4mil in NIL player money.

Someone else got $4.0mil as QB1 elsewhere. Nico told Tennessee he wants more money. Something like that. May have skipped some practices holding out.

Nico is out at Tennessee. Nico is now a free agent at college level with suitors rumored as maybe USC, maybe UNC - Belichick.

I don't know that everyone is pissed at Nico, but $2.4mil should have been enough.

He skipped meetings and practice so Tennessee moved on. He’s not a free agent. Has to go through the spring transfer portal. Restricted inter conference. And abandoned the team to seek individual investment. Not a good look. Stupid move by his father and agent. What college is going to pay $4 million to this kid, who wasn’t even the best QB in his conference and now would have no spring ball? His family has a history of bailing as his younger brother bailed on UCLA. Football is a team sport and he put himself ahead of the team.

2 hours ago, McMVP said:

His former team (Tennessee) said "no thanks…you’re off the team” for not showing up to spring team activities because he was "holding out” for more NIL money than they originally agreed on. Basically he is the first college hold out… And I don’t think it is going well for him.

Second. Sluka quit on UNLV after three games last year and ended up transferring to James Madison. Stupid move.

5 hours ago, Saltpeter said:

It’ll be OL or DL if they stick at 32. Almost definitely.

My big "what if” is if Nick Emmanwori is there. Only 21 and the upside is in line with the guys the Eagles have drafted high recently.

Regardless, I don’t want them "swinging for a double.” That’s how you end up with Derek Barnett.

Too raw. Boom or bust risk with him.

Lol

3 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

@VaBeach_Eagle Is there a way where if people post Youtube videos, it doesn't take up the whole screen? That posted on the board is smaller and if you want to view it large you click on it and have it take you to Youtube.

Your suggestion/question sounds like a solution in search of a problem

So Berman posted a form for PHLY for "reporters” to be able to access Fran Duffy and his draft guide. I signed up and put my organization as the Eagles Message Board. If successful, I will try to figure out how to conference in the Blog.

8 minutes ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Nah. It is ruining a really good thing. It has fallen way off from where it once was... but this is just sad to watch.

True, but I don't think it's been a good thing for a long time before the NIL drama. I don't think the kid is being any more greedy than these schools have been for decades now. The dumb pearl clutching articles about how " I can't believe 2 million dollars and the privilege of working in these hallowed halls wasn't enough for him blah blah blah" are at least entertaining to me.

This should be an opportunity for them to take a look at how out of control things are and reform the system somehow. But I doubt they will unfortunately.

16 minutes ago, BigEFly said:

Second. Sluka quit on UNLV after three games last year and ended up transferring to James Madison. Stupid move.

I stand corrected…I don’t follow college ball as much as others, so I will defer to them. First ‘national’ story I would guess on this…

3 hours ago, paco said:

I mentioned this before but I don't follow college football. As in, I just realized they are paying players now level of not following.

Is anyone up for giving me the cliff notes version why everyone is pissed at Nico Iamaleava?

2 hours ago, CouchKing said:

Nico is QB1 at Tennessee slated to make $2.4mil in NIL player money.

Someone else got $4.0mil as QB1 elsewhere. Nico told Tennessee he wants more money. Something like that. May have skipped some practices holding out.

Nico is out at Tennessee. Nico is now a free agent at college level with suitors rumored as maybe USC, maybe UNC - Belichick.

I don't know that everyone is pissed at Nico, but $2.4mil should have been enough.

CouchKing’s assessment is accurate. His final point “$2.4 million should have been enough” is at the heart of the anger. The NCAA did a lousy job of writing the rules and Nico is capitalizing on their poor work. Capitalizing is at the heart of capitalism. However, there are lots of folks who think Nico is valuing himself more than he values the NCAA. He is being hated for taking care of himself.

2 hours ago, McMVP said:

His former team (Tennessee) said "no thanks…you’re off the team” for not showing up to spring team activities because he was "holding out” for more NIL money than they originally agreed on. Basically he is the first college hold out… And I don’t think it is going well for him.

It didn’t go well for Curt Flood in the beginning either, but in the end he won. Nico will win too.

2 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

He held out of a meeting for a new NIL contact from Tennessee because new top end transfer QB contracts make more than he was gonna make.

Old heads are annoyed because Tennessee gave him the first big contract out of highschool and sued the NCAA to help it stick so they expected loyalty.

Seems like the inevitable outcome of the NIL system as it is to me 🤷‍♂️. Business decision by both sides.

Agreed 100%

2 hours ago, VaBeach_Eagle said:

When I first posted one and it was so big, it annoyed me too and I couldn't find the Admin setting to set the size. But after a little poking around and finding nothing, I noticed something...

Paste the YouTube link into the browser like normal and it will (or should) embed and be big. But take a look at the bottom right habd corner of the video... see the little square? That's for manual resizing (same with images). So you can re-size it however you see fit.

What size is optimal?

3 hours ago, paco said:

Her reaction so many years later is hilarious. She thought she won the lottery

3 hours ago, Sack that QB said:

Howie expounded on previous comments that he made during his "We'll never take guys who committed violence against women"

He basically said that it's not up to them to judge someone innocent or guilty based on accusations, people are innocent until proven guilty, but they always do their homework.

Mike Green back in play if he falls.

It's strange to me that he took that stand considering we have a current player that's going to be given a record breaking contract soon and has a legal issue currently open from a car accident resulting in a death

45 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

True, but I don't think it's been a good thing for a long time before the NIL drama. I don't think the kid is being any more greedy than these schools have been for decades now. The dumb pearl clutching articles about how " I can't believe 2 million dollars and the privilege of working in these hallowed halls wasn't enough for him blah blah blah" are at least entertaining to me.

This should be an opportunity for them to take a look at how out of control things are and reform the system somehow. But I doubt they will unfortunately.

Final nail in the coffin, no doubt.

1 hour ago, BigEFly said:

But he is probably the #3 CB in this draft and maybe the #4 WR. I don’t see him projecting as a pro bowler at this point. He’s not a top 10 as either and probably a second rounder as a WR at best, a late first or second round CB. I’d definitely take Johnson over him at CB and probably Revel and Barron before him and frankly, maybe Amos and Hairston. At WR, probably Golden and Egbuka before him and likely Burden and note this isn’t a very strong WR draft. He’s probably a higher ranked receiver but that is because it is a bad WR draft. But he rounds routes and on D he makes more contact than they allow in the NFL. NFL comp is Devonta and Slay. That’s an insult to Smith, who is stellar in route running and I don’t think he has Slay speed and certainly not Slay hips.

I know you are a secondary guy, so I was curious what you'd have to say.

Bottom line, for me...if I'm an NFL GM, someone else for someone else is going to have to break through that iron 2 way ceiling before I see it as a value add.

When a back roster guy like VanSumeren can do it, that's useful and versatile because he's not doing either at a starter level and is playing a low volume of snaps on either side of the ball. As a starter? Let someone else prove it can be done. Not taking that chance.

I just think he's getting top 3 hype because of the rarity of being a 2-way player rather than actually being that kind of a prospect at any one position.

Another trade back scenario having missed out on Nolen, Scourton, and Pearce in RD1. Jonah Saavy comes in and immediately competes with Steen. At worst, he is outstanding depth at Guard and Tackle. Still was able to trade up for my Edge and DT targets of Swinson and Norman-Lott.

One thing I'll say in defense of the universities...the players don't matter. They really don't.

The productivity/marketability window of the average NCAA football player is 2 years, at best. With the exception of the highest end recruits, they spend 1-2 years in development, then 1-2 years production, then off to the draft or graduation. Fans care about universities, not players. It is ENTIRELY university/institution driven. More so than any major spectator sport draw.

The players are the literal wrapping paper of the product. They are what you see, out there on the field, playing the games. But they are irrelevant. Come and go.

The only reason the players have value is the rat race between the teams. Universities compete for players. And NIL money is a variable thrown into the recruitment process.

I'm not pro or anti players getting paid. But they just aren't a part of what makes this work. The pool is just to large and too transient.

Just noticed Parsons still doesn't have a new contract. Was hoping that'd be more of an issue

He will be an Eagle next year

14 minutes ago, eagle45 said:

One thing I'll say in defense of the universities...the players don't matter. They really don't.

The productivity/marketability window of the average NCAA football player is 2 years, at best. With the exception of the highest end recruits, they spend 1-2 years in development, then 1-2 years production, then off to the draft or graduation. Fans care about universities, not players. It is ENTIRELY university/institution driven. More so than any major spectator sport draw.

The players are the literal wrapping paper of the product. They are what you see, out there on the field, playing the games. But they are irrelevant. Come and go.

The only reason the players have value is the rat race between the teams. Universities compete for players. And NIL money is a variable thrown into the recruitment process.

I'm not pro or anti players getting paid. But they just aren't a part of what makes this work. The pool is just to large and too transient.

Ehhh… the product is a WINNING team, and without top talent you’re not going to win.

4 hours ago, paco said:

I mentioned this before but I don't follow college football. As in, I just realized they are paying players now level of not following.

Is anyone up for giving me the cliff notes version why everyone is pissed at Nico Iamaleava?

He is trying to extort around 1.3m extra a year from UTenn or refusing to play. Huepel told him to piss up a tree…so now he’s searching for someone to pay him $4m a year to play there after tearing up his 2.5m a year deal with UTenn. All because of his dad wanting him too…that’s my understanding.

3 hours ago, DEagle7 said:

He held out of a meeting for a new NIL contact from Tennessee because new top end transfer QB contracts make more than he was gonna make.

Old heads are annoyed because Tennessee gave him the first big contract out of highschool and sued the NCAA to help it stick so they expected loyalty.

Seems like the inevitable outcome of the NIL system as it is to me 🤷‍♂️. Business decision by both sides.

It started mid last season with the UNLV kid right?

2 hours ago, BigEFly said:

But he is probably the #3 CB in this draft and maybe the #4 WR. I don’t see him projecting as a pro bowler at this point. He’s not a top 10 as either and probably a second rounder as a WR at best, a late first or second round CB. I’d definitely take Johnson over him at CB and probably Revel and Barron before him and frankly, maybe Amos and Hairston. At WR, probably Golden and Egbuka before him and likely Burden and note this isn’t a very strong WR draft. He’s probably a higher ranked receiver but that is because it is a bad WR draft. But he rounds routes and on D he makes more contact than they allow in the NFL. NFL comp is Devonta and Slay. That’s an insult to Smith, who is stellar in route running and I don’t think he has Slay speed and certainly not Slay hips.

Mentioned it earlier…a more athletic Asante Samuel is his comp IMO. I think the excessive 2 way play hurt him a lot in the CB department. I think it’s neck and neck with him and Johnson as the most talented and gifted.

2 hours ago, Iggles_Phan said:

Nah. It is ruining a really good thing. It has fallen way off from where it once was... but this is just sad to watch.

NIL, Power 2 + the ACC stepchildren and transfer portal. It’s a mercenaries game at this point. At some point the lack of development will trickle to down to the NFL and the NFL will be even further watered down.

1 minute ago, eagle45 said:

I know you are a secondary guy, so I was curious what you'd have to say.

Bottom line, for me...if I'm an NFL GM, someone else for someone else is going to have to break through that iron 2 way ceiling before I see it as a value add.

When a back roster guy like VanSumeren can do it, that's useful and versatile because he's not doing either at a starter level and is playing a low volume of snaps on either side of the ball. As a starter? Let someone else prove it can be done. Not taking that chance.

I just think he's getting top 3 hype because of the rarity of being a 2-way player rather than actually being that kind of a prospect at any one position.

He was the #1 recruit out of high school so it isn’t like he doesn’t have talent. But he isn’t quite six feet and weighs in at 188. Projected 40 time is around 4.4. Fact he declined the CB drills as well as the athletic drills at the combine is a concern. Now I have said many times that the hardest positions to analyze using TV game film are the DBs and receivers because TV view doesn’t give a full view of how the player plays when the ball doesn’t come their way. Last year 23 catches allowed on 41 targets. Not awful but not Sauce Gardner either. I just don’t see the mirroring. But mirror isn’t all I need to see in a CB. It’s cuts and contact. Now Bugler has him as his #1 CB and has better tape to review than I do. I would go with Johnson. Look at WR rankings and specifically Big12 WRs. Won’t find those in the top 20. And this draft has no Nabors or Harrison.