Just now, Diehardfan said:

Love the effort.

Gross

8 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

I do believe the cult would not care and just make up an excuse if files were released that had proof that he did something

Probably say "yea so trump diddled kids but so did [insert democrat].”

11 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

Gross

I mean it was ironic coming from a doctor who helps mutilate kids but good effort.

8 minutes ago, Mike030270 said:

I do believe the cult would not care and just make up an excuse if files were released that had proof that he did something

Probably say "yea so trump diddled kids but so did [insert democrat].”

Been gone for months until I get pulled in and the lines are the same. Good to know I haven't missed much.

Holy F'ing sheet, he's still going

Someone call the police on this pedophile

Of course she did

18 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Been gone for months until I get pulled in and the lines are the same. Good to know I haven't missed much.

Actually there have been arrests and resignations since the last batch was released

19 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I mean it was ironic coming from a doctor who helps mutilate kids but good effort.

23 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

I mean it was ironic coming from a doctor who helps mutilate kids but good effort.

Its way too late for you to pretend you care about kids, Slappy.

30 minutes ago, Boogyman said:

Its way too late for you to pretend you care about kids, Slappy.

Hurting a kid is the worst thing you can do or be accused of doing. When you have actual proof past TDS let me know. I believe the victims who said he didn't. I believe a police chief. I believe their attorneys. You believe your hatred for the man.

Former Palm Beach chief

Reiter described Trump as one of the "very first people to call" the department after news of the investigation broke.This account has been covered by multiple outlets (e.g., Miami Herald, BBC, Reuters, ABC News, New York Times) based on the newly released FBI document.

Sounds like something a guilty man would do.

3 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Hurting a kid is the worst thing you can do or be accused of doing. When you have actual proof past TDS let me know. Until then it's a you have mental issues problem not a me problem. I believe the victims who said he didn't. I believe a police chief. I believe their attorneys. You believe your hatred for the man.

What you don't seem to believe is sworn testimony in a deposition from a victim saying he did in fact rape her at 13 or sworn testimony in a deposition from a witness saying she saw him and Epstein take turns on the 13 year old or Epstein's cell mate saying to the FBI saying Epstein told him about Trump holding a different kid's head down on his D and she bit it so, no, you don't think hurting kids is the worst thing you can do. You're fine with it. You're F'ing sick dude. Get help.

Just now, VanHammersly said:

What you don't seem to believe is sworn testimony in a deposition from a victim saying he did in fact rape her at 13 or sworn testimony in a deposition from a witness saying she saw him and Epstein take turns on the 13 year old or Epstein's cell mate saying to the FBI saying Epstein told him about Trump holding a different kid's head down on his D and she bit it so, no, you don't think hurting kids is the worst thing you can do. You're fine with it. You're F'ing sick dude. Get help.

Trump told Palm Beach police chief ‘everyone’ knew about Epstein, Maxwell was ‘evil’

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article314631578.html

You got nothing crazy.

Just now, Diehardfan said:

Trump told Palm Beach police chief ‘everyone’ knew about Epstein, Maxwell was ‘evil’

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article314631578.html

So after Epstein's extremely serious crime became public, Trump told the cops he was against the guy behind the very serious crime? Well never mind then.

4 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

So after Epstein's extremely serious crime became public, Trump told the cops he was against the guy behind the very serious crime? Well never mind then.

Wrong like everything else you said today. I don't have time so here is a quick Grok version laying out all your BS

The claims about Trump raping a 13-year-old come from a 2016 civil lawsuit filed anonymously as "Katie Johnson"/"Jane Doe" against Trump and Epstein. It alleged rape at Epstein parties in 1994, with affidavits from pseudonymous "witnesses" claiming to have seen or recruited for such acts.

• No sworn deposition or testimony from the alleged victim ever occurred—the case never reached that stage.

• The lawsuit was filed multiple times (California April 2016, dismissed for invalid claims; refiled New York June/September 2016) and voluntarily dismissed on November 4, 2016 (days before the election), with the attorney citing threats but no further evidence or refiling.

• The accuser never appeared publicly, and mainstream sources describe it as unverified/unsubstantiated (no corroboration, no charges, no proceeds to trial).

No "witness saying she saw him and Epstein take turns" advanced beyond untested affidavits in that dismissed suit.The "Epstein's cellmate" claim (Epstein allegedly told his cellmate about Trump forcing a kid's head down, she bit him) appears to be a garbled reference to scattered FBI tips/notes in Epstein file releases (e.g., 2025-2026 tranches). These include unverified third-party allegations relayed to the FBI, but no direct cellmate testimony (like from Nicholas Tartaglione) matches this exactly—mostly summaries of tips, some redacted/missing, none leading to charges or proven in court.Trump told former Palm Beach Police Chief Michael Reiter about Epstein in July 2006 (per Reiter's 2019 FBI interview, released in 2026 Epstein files). Trump reportedly said: "Thank goodness you're stopping him, everyone has known he's been doing this," noted banning Epstein from Mar-a-Lago, called Maxwell "evil," and said he left when teens were present.This shows Trump flagged concerns to law enforcement early in the 2006 investigation.Short forum post version:"The 'rape at 13' claims stem from a 2016 anonymous civil lawsuit (Katie Johnson/Jane Doe) vs. Trump/Epstein—alleged 1994 assault, with pseudonymous witness affidavits. No depositions taken, case voluntarily dismissed Nov 2016 w/o evidence or trial. Unverified, no charges.No real 'witness saw them take turns' or Epstein cellmate testimony on Trump biting incident—mostly unproven FBI tips/notes, nothing substantiated.Trump actually called Palm Beach Police Chief Michael Reiter in July 2006 to flag Epstein: 'Thank goodness you're stopping him, everyone has known he's been doing this' (per chief's 2019 FBI interview in released files). He banned Epstein from Mar-a-Lago earlier too."

Like I said hours ago you have nothing.

22 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

You're fine with it. You're F'ing sick dude. Get help.

The best psychiatrists in the world couldn't help this psycho.

"I don't have time to explain it to you so lemme ask this AI who recently dubbed itself MechaHitler about it really quick"

2 minutes ago, DEagle7 said:

"I don't have time to explain it to you so lemme ask this AI who recently dubbed itself MechaHitler about it really quick"

Yeah and about the facts you want to ignore? That's right. They don't matter because TDS. It's not about kids or the truth.

40 minutes ago, Diehardfan said:

Wrong like everything else you said today. I don't have time so here is a quick Grok version laying out all your BS

The claims about Trump raping a 13-year-old come from a 2016 civil lawsuit filed anonymously as "Katie Johnson"/"Jane Doe" against Trump and Epstein. It alleged rape at Epstein parties in 1994, with affidavits from pseudonymous "witnesses" claiming to have seen or recruited for such acts.

• No sworn deposition or testimony from the alleged victim ever occurred—the case never reached that stage.

• The lawsuit was filed multiple times (California April 2016, dismissed for invalid claims; refiled New York June/September 2016) and voluntarily dismissed on November 4, 2016 (days before the election), with the attorney citing threats but no further evidence or refiling.

• The accuser never appeared publicly, and mainstream sources describe it as unverified/unsubstantiated (no corroboration, no charges, no proceeds to trial).

No "witness saying she saw him and Epstein take turns" advanced beyond untested affidavits in that dismissed suit.The "Epstein's cellmate" claim (Epstein allegedly told his cellmate about Trump forcing a kid's head down, she bit him) appears to be a garbled reference to scattered FBI tips/notes in Epstein file releases (e.g., 2025-2026 tranches). These include unverified third-party allegations relayed to the FBI, but no direct cellmate testimony (like from Nicholas Tartaglione) matches this exactly—mostly summaries of tips, some redacted/missing, none leading to charges or proven in court.Trump told former Palm Beach Police Chief Michael Reiter about Epstein in July 2006 (per Reiter's 2019 FBI interview, released in 2026 Epstein files). Trump reportedly said: "Thank goodness you're stopping him, everyone has known he's been doing this," noted banning Epstein from Mar-a-Lago, called Maxwell "evil," and said he left when teens were present.This shows Trump flagged concerns to law enforcement early in the 2006 investigation.Short forum post version:"The 'rape at 13' claims stem from a 2016 anonymous civil lawsuit (Katie Johnson/Jane Doe) vs. Trump/Epstein—alleged 1994 assault, with pseudonymous witness affidavits. No depositions taken, case voluntarily dismissed Nov 2016 w/o evidence or trial. Unverified, no charges.No real 'witness saw them take turns' or Epstein cellmate testimony on Trump biting incident—mostly unproven FBI tips/notes, nothing substantiated.Trump actually called Palm Beach Police Chief Michael Reiter in July 2006 to flag Epstein: 'Thank goodness you're stopping him, everyone has known he's been doing this' (per chief's 2019 FBI interview in released files). He banned Epstein from Mar-a-Lago earlier too."

Like I said hours ago you have nothing.

Looks like we’ve got an old fashioned robot fight on our hands.

From ChatGPT

Summary of Documented Events

• Trump and Epstein had a long-standing social relationship.

• Epstein was a member of Trump’s private club.

• A minor (Giuffre) was recruited into Epstein’s trafficking network while employed at Mar-a-Lago.

• Trump flew on Epstein’s jet multiple times.

• Trump publicly praised Epstein in 2002, referencing younger women.

• A 2016 lawsuit accused Trump and Epstein of raping a 13-year-old and included a sworn witness declaration alleging direct observation.

• Trump’s name appears in Epstein flight logs and contact materials.

• A jury has found Trump liable for sexual abuse in an unrelated civil case.

• Media reports state Epstein’s former cellmate told investigators Epstein claimed to possess compromising information about powerful individuals, including Trump.

Has anyone asked Jeeves?

16 minutes ago, VanHammersly said:

Looks like we’ve got an old fashioned robot fight on our hands.

From ChatGPT

Summary of Documented Events

• Trump and Epstein had a long-standing social relationship.

• Epstein was a member of Trump’s private club.

• A minor (Giuffre) was recruited into Epstein’s trafficking network while employed at Mar-a-Lago.

• Trump flew on Epstein’s jet multiple times.

• Trump publicly praised Epstein in 2002, referencing younger women.

• A 2016 lawsuit accused Trump and Epstein of raping a 13-year-old and included a sworn witness declaration alleging direct observation.

• Trump’s name appears in Epstein flight logs and contact materials.

• A jury has found Trump liable for sexual abuse in an unrelated civil case.

• Media reports state Epstein’s former cellmate told investigators Epstein claimed to possess compromising information about powerful individuals, including Trump.

GTP fighting itself

ChatGPT said:

The list you provided mixes verified facts, disputed claims, allegations, and conclusions. To "prove it’s false,” we need to evaluate each statement individually and distinguish between:

✔️ Confirmed fact

⚠️ Partially true / misleading framing

❌ False or unsupported

🧾 Allegation (not proven in court)

Below is a careful breakdown based on publicly documented records.

1) "Trump and Epstein had a long-standing social relationship.”

✔️ Partly True (but often overstated)

Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein moved in overlapping wealthy social circles in Palm Beach and New York in the 1990s and early 2000s.

They were photographed together.

Trump described Epstein as a "terrific guy” in a 2002 interview.

Trump later said they had a "falling out” and claimed he banned Epstein from Mar-a-Lago.

There is no evidence of a close partnership or joint criminal enterprise established in court.

So: Social acquaintances? Yes. Proven long-term partnership? No.

2) "Epstein was a member of Trump’s private club.”

⚠️ Reported but not formally documented publicly

Epstein was associated with Mar-a-Lago, Trump’s private club.

Multiple reports state Epstein had access and social presence there. However:

No publicly released membership contract has been produced.

Trump has claimed he later banned Epstein.

This claim is plausible and widely reported, but not supported by public membership records.

3) "A minor (Giuffre) was recruited into Epstein’s trafficking network while employed at Mar-a-Lago.”

⚠️ Alleged in sworn testimony; not proven in court

Virginia Giuffre stated in legal filings that she met Ghislaine Maxwell while working at Mar-a-Lago as a teenager and was recruited into Epstein’s network.

This claim appears in court documents.

It has not been adjudicated as fact in a court ruling.

Trump has denied knowledge of recruitment occurring there.

So this is a sworn allegation, not a judicial finding.

4) "Trump flew on Epstein’s jet multiple times.”

✔️ True, but context matters

Trump’s name appears in flight logs for Epstein’s private plane in the 1990s.

Important context:

The documented flights were between New York and Florida.

There is no confirmed record of Trump flying to Epstein’s private island.

Trump has stated he flew only a few times and stopped associating with Epstein before Epstein’s 2008 conviction.

This is factually correct but often presented without context.

5) "Trump publicly praised Epstein in 2002, referencing younger women.”

✔️ True

In a 2002 interview with New York Magazine, Trump said:

"I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy… He likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”

This statement is documented and authentic.

It does not constitute proof of criminal knowledge — but the quote itself is real.

6) "A 2016 lawsuit accused Trump and Epstein of raping a 13-year-old…”

❌ No court finding — case was withdrawn

A lawsuit was filed in 2016 alleging rape of a minor in the 1990s.

Key facts:

The case was voluntarily dismissed before trial.

No evidence was tested in court.

No findings of fact were made.

Trump denied the allegations.

This was an unproven allegation, not an adjudicated event.

There is no legal determination that this occurred.

7) "Trump’s name appears in Epstein flight logs and contact materials.”

✔️ True

Trump’s name appears in:

Flight logs

Epstein’s contact book

However:

Many prominent individuals appear in those materials.

Presence in contact logs does not establish wrongdoing.

No court has ruled that inclusion proves criminal conduct.

This is factual but often misinterpreted.

8) "A jury has found Trump liable for sexual abuse in an unrelated civil case.”

✔️ True

In 2023, a civil jury found Trump liable for sexual abuse and defamation in a lawsuit brought by:

E. Jean Carroll

Important clarifications:

This was a civil case, not criminal.

The jury did not find rape under New York’s legal definition.

This case is unrelated to Epstein.

This statement is accurate but unrelated to Epstein allegations.

9) "Epstein’s former cellmate said Epstein claimed to have compromising information on Trump.”

⚠️ Hearsay reporting

Some media outlets reported that a former cellmate claimed Epstein said he had damaging information on powerful people, including Trump.

Key issues:

This is third-hand testimony.

It was not tested in court.

No documentation has confirmed such material exists.

No charges resulted from that claim.

This is unverified hearsay, not established fact.

Overall Assessment

Your list is not entirely false, but it combines:

✔️ Documented facts (flight logs, 2002 quote)

⚠️ Allegations not proven in court (Giuffre recruitment, 2016 lawsuit)

🧾 Civil liability unrelated to Epstein

❌ Claims that lack judicial findings

📢 Hearsay media reports

There is no court ruling that Trump participated in Epstein’s trafficking crimes.

There is also no criminal conviction tying Trump to Epstein’s illegal activities.

But it is inaccurate to say all claims are fabricated — several elements are documented social associations.

Bottom line is he tossed him from his club and called the PB chief in the mid 2000s to report him. Keep crying and wishing.

"There are a lot of connections here but nothing has been proven in court yet" isn't really the mic-drop you think it is friendo.